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PostPosted: Mon Oct 28, 2013 1:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kerley is a good slot WR. He's not Wes Welker or Victor Cruz, but he is good for us and will be in the future. If we get another starting WR alongside Hill, plus a TE, our offense could be dangerous with an improving Geno.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 28, 2013 1:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jetsfandan423 wrote:
Kerley is a good slot WR. He's not Wes Welker or Victor Cruz, but he is good for us and will be in the future. If we get another starting WR alongside Hill, plus a TE, our offense could be dangerous with an improving Geno.


I agree sort of. I think he has the potential to be that good with more talent at the other position around him.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 28, 2013 1:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

rdelaney89 wrote:
Jetsfandan423 wrote:
Kerley is a good slot WR. He's not Wes Welker or Victor Cruz, but he is good for us and will be in the future. If we get another starting WR alongside Hill, plus a TE, our offense could be dangerous with an improving Geno.


I agree sort of. I think he has the potential to be that good with more talent at the other position around him.



If we get another starting WR and a great TE, I think Kerley will only get better.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 28, 2013 3:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Speaking of 1/2 way point, we have a lot of holes to fill for 2014.
We all know its been heavy defensive drafts the past few years and I think we can all agree that without some weapons (in a pass happy league) we're not gonna get over the hump... let alone give Geno the ability to realize his full potential. Think Dolton/AJ Green.
If the season ended today, what position is the priority? Obviously, we would draft based on individual athletes who rise/fall, but position-wise is it a #1WR, or a freak at TE, or even a true ball-hawk safety? Could be be the new lions and go DE line again or OLB???
Personally, I think we need the true #1 WR. Holmes should be a gonner and Hill/Kerley aren't the answer.
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jimbo1904 wrote:
Speaking of 1/2 way point, we have a lot of holes to fill for 2014.
We all know its been heavy defensive drafts the past few years and I think we can all agree that without some weapons (in a pass happy league) we're not gonna get over the hump... let alone give Geno the ability to realize his full potential. Think Dolton/AJ Green.
If the season ended today, what position is the priority? Obviously, we would draft based on individual athletes who rise/fall, but position-wise is it a #1WR, or a freak at TE, or even a true ball-hawk safety? Could be be the new lions and go DE line again or OLB???
Personally, I think we need the true #1 WR. Holmes should be a gonner and Hill/Kerley aren't the answer.


I think Hill and Kerley are the answers but they need help. We need WR/TE/FS really badly and OLB should also be a priority with Pace aging. I wish I knew more about contracts and cap space but I'd imagine with $40 mill we can resign Wilk, Kerley, and Snacks this offseason and then get one high priced player. That comes down to Byrd or Orakpo most likely, I don't know how their contracts work because they may be allowed to be franchised.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 28, 2013 9:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kerley has been a marvel on third down, can create after the catch and has a knack for gaining extra yards to move the chains. Sounds like a quality slot receiver to me.

Wes Welker has changed the way people view the slot receiver, but the thing is not every offense glorifies the slot receiver like the Pats and Broncos do. Welker is the best slot receiver when you're talking about players whose role is really traditional like that, who do their best work moving the chains, understanding coverages, catching everything thrown to them and will see upwards of 10 targets every week. The thing is, it's sort of a specialized role, not every team glorifies the slot like that. It's dependent on how the offense is coordinated. There aren't a ton of offenses that make a conscious effort to keep a slot receiver consistently involved, and fair enough there aren't a lot of players that warrant that. Wes Welker is such a player though. Kerley, perhaps, could be.

When people say "slot receiver", there isn't often a separation between players like Welker who make their money operating more or less exclusively in the slot and receivers who just line up there occasionally but aren't exactly specialists. There are, of course, receivers that will line up in the slot but are also bonafide #1 receivers.

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Anyway, my actual point is that most players that are considered great "slot receivers" would be considered good receivers anywhere on the field, sans a few like Welker. Kerley is a good at doing the things you need a traditional slot receiver to do, and has really been the only consistent option on our offense. He's part of the solution here, we just need to get more talent(and also continue to develop some on the roster) on offense, and he'll be a beneficiary of the trickle down effect.
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Right. The guy who has yet to ever eclipse 1000 yards, the guy who can barely get 50 receptions in a year, the guy who has never gotten more than 5 tds in a season, the guy who has never taken over a game and won it for the Jets, the guy who is pretty fumble prone is one of the best in the game.

He's an average player with above average potential and there are plenty of people like him in the NFL who never improve (see Nate Washington)


It's hard to get the yards and receptions when you play on a horrible offense and you're the slot receiver.

And fumble prone? Really?
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Raoul Duke wrote:
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Right. The guy who has yet to ever eclipse 1000 yards, the guy who can barely get 50 receptions in a year, the guy who has never gotten more than 5 tds in a season, the guy who has never taken over a game and won it for the Jets, the guy who is pretty fumble prone is one of the best in the game.

He's an average player with above average potential and there are plenty of people like him in the NFL who never improve (see Nate Washington)


It's hard to get the yards and receptions when you play on a horrible offense and you're the slot receiver.

And fumble prone? Really?

In 126 career offensive touches, he has a grand total of 1 lost fumble.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 28, 2013 10:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

green24 wrote:
Raoul Duke wrote:
teamorange wrote:


Right. The guy who has yet to ever eclipse 1000 yards, the guy who can barely get 50 receptions in a year, the guy who has never gotten more than 5 tds in a season, the guy who has never taken over a game and won it for the Jets, the guy who is pretty fumble prone is one of the best in the game.

He's an average player with above average potential and there are plenty of people like him in the NFL who never improve (see Nate Washington)


It's hard to get the yards and receptions when you play on a horrible offense and you're the slot receiver.

And fumble prone? Really?

In 126 career offensive touches, he has a grand total of 1 lost fumble.




Cut him.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 28, 2013 11:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jetsfandan423 wrote:
green24 wrote:
Raoul Duke wrote:
teamorange wrote:


Right. The guy who has yet to ever eclipse 1000 yards, the guy who can barely get 50 receptions in a year, the guy who has never gotten more than 5 tds in a season, the guy who has never taken over a game and won it for the Jets, the guy who is pretty fumble prone is one of the best in the game.

He's an average player with above average potential and there are plenty of people like him in the NFL who never improve (see Nate Washington)


It's hard to get the yards and receptions when you play on a horrible offense and you're the slot receiver.

And fumble prone? Really?

In 126 career offensive touches, he has a grand total of 1 lost fumble.




Cut him.


7 fumbles, 2 years.

Edit: Never said he was a bad player. He just isn't elite, he is an average to slightly above average talent. Every player I listed (other than maybe Holmes and even he is a MUCH better talent just isn't there yet) is better than him
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