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chrisororke


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 24, 2013 3:38 pm    Post subject: Ben Doesn't Like Wildcat Reply with quote

Just another reason to hate Ben. The Wildcat works. It has been working. It has yet to end in a first down, granted sometimes it was run two times in a row.

Quite simply the baby wants the ball and is more self centered than team-oriented. I like that he wants the ball in his hands, but if it works, than it works. Say Peyton Manning for example, his character is one of I want to win more than personal stats and he doesn't care if he has the ball or hands it off 40 times. But when he does have the ball, he makes plays. Make the most of your opportunities -Mike Tomlin. Ben is like I need the ball, I need the ball, and doesn't always make the play. That is a selfish player to always demand the ball and not a team player, which has always been the biggest criticism of Ben in my opinion.

Ben doesn't think they will run a lot more of it. I hate this. Who is running the franchise? The 100M QB or the coaches, GM, and owners. I am so over Ben. No player should ever be "bigger" than the franchise and I know Art Rooney Sr wouldn't tolerate this s*hit


Note: Le'Veon Bell loves how Todd Haley has been using his talents in I-Form, Shotgun, Wildcat, etc. If it works, than it works.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 24, 2013 3:53 pm    Post subject: Re: Ben Doesn't Like Wildcat Reply with quote

chrisororke wrote:
Just another reason to hate Ben.


Just another reason to ignore your posts.

No QB wants the wildcat in their offense unless he's a runner.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 24, 2013 4:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Wild Cat gained all of 18 yards against the Ravens, who had no reason to expect it. Roethlisberger being out wide is a waste of a body. You are basically playing 10 on a 11 because teams know they aren't going to throw a pass to him. It's not good for the run game. Nor will it open up many passes.

It was a wrinkle to give the Ravens front 7 something else to think about to slow down the pass rush. And maybe make them worry about some sort of trick play after the Jets game. That's it. It wasn't meant to be a permanent wrinkle.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 24, 2013 5:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 24, 2013 5:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I dont like to go over and just be split out wide and take a chance that a (defensive back) is going to come up, Roethlisberger told 93.7 The Fan Tuesday during his weekly radio show. I dont think well see a lot of it.

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"To take a shotgun snap, even as a quarterback, theres a chance of fumbles and things happening and we do it all the time, Roethlisberger said. So I think your chances of something bad happening goes up when you do that Wildcat stuff because its just unnatural, things that (running backs) are just not used to doing. It makes you nervous but it did good things for us.


http://espn.go.com/blog/afcnorth/post/_/id/75718/big-ben-not-wild-about-wildcat-attack

He's completely unreasonable! Trade him for Adrian Peterson!
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 24, 2013 5:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The wildcat is dumb unless you have personnel that have a skillset that really excels in it, and your best player on offense isn't your QB.

Putting Ben out wide means the offense is taking the best player on the field out of the play.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 24, 2013 6:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I will see the glass half full...

May be Ben is smarter than some and trying to fool other teams into thinking that there is no need to prepare against it...
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 24, 2013 7:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

CKSteeler wrote:
The Wild Cat gained all of 18 yards against the Ravens, who had no reason to expect it. Roethlisberger being out wide is a waste of a body. You are basically playing 10 on a 11 because teams know they aren't going to throw a pass to him. It's not good for the run game. Nor will it open up many passes.

It was a wrinkle to give the Ravens front 7 something else to think about to slow down the pass rush. And maybe make them worry about some sort of trick play after the Jets game. That's it. It wasn't meant to be a permanent wrinkle.


^^^This.

We're not a wildcat offense. Nor do we have a reason to be. Just a different look to give the Ravens.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 24, 2013 7:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Exactly. We're not a 'strong' offense when it comes to the Wildcat, which is probably why he hates it. He probably feels it ignores what they do well, or rather contradicts it.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 24, 2013 8:23 pm    Post subject: Re: Ben Doesn't Like Wildcat Reply with quote

chrisororke wrote:
Just another reason to hate Ben. The Wildcat works. It has been working. It has yet to end in a first down, granted sometimes it was run two times in a row.

Quite simply the baby wants the ball and is more self centered than team-oriented. I like that he wants the ball in his hands, but if it works, than it works. Say Peyton Manning for example, his character is one of I want to win more than personal stats and he doesn't care if he has the ball or hands it off 40 times. But when he does have the ball, he makes plays. Make the most of your opportunities -Mike Tomlin. Ben is like I need the ball, I need the ball, and doesn't always make the play. That is a selfish player to always demand the ball and not a team player, which has always been the biggest criticism of Ben in my opinion.

Ben doesn't think they will run a lot more of it. I hate this. Who is running the franchise? The 100M QB or the coaches, GM, and owners. I am so over Ben. No player should ever be "bigger" than the franchise and I know Art Rooney Sr wouldn't tolerate this s*hit


Note: Le'Veon Bell loves how Todd Haley has been using his talents in I-Form, Shotgun, Wildcat, etc. If it works, than it works.


Yeah, Ben ran this franchise, but I thin they had enough. His buddy colon is gone finally and now they have a real RB and are geting results with creative playcalling. If ben keeps crying, It would be tempting to do something if he is in fact holding the franchise back. that O game plan was great last week, and now he complains? If ben gets hurt, the team might do well without him and of course pouncey.

In short, just sick of the rich players thinking they can have say in how things are done. Just execute what the coaches plan and what works and win. Like when Ben always said this is a passing team, well how did that work out? Bell is here, and this is the new Franco and the OL might keep getting better. I am looking forward to this season thanks to Haleys new playcalling. LeBeaus is another story though. Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 24, 2013 8:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

CKSteeler wrote:
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I dont like to go over and just be split out wide and take a chance that a (defensive back) is going to come up, Roethlisberger told 93.7 The Fan Tuesday during his weekly radio show. I dont think well see a lot of it.

...

"To take a shotgun snap, even as a quarterback, theres a chance of fumbles and things happening and we do it all the time, Roethlisberger said. So I think your chances of something bad happening goes up when you do that Wildcat stuff because its just unnatural, things that (running backs) are just not used to doing. It makes you nervous but it did good things for us.


http://espn.go.com/blog/afcnorth/post/_/id/75718/big-ben-not-wild-about-wildcat-attack

He's completely unreasonable! Trade him for Adrian Peterson!


we have a RB but wait, what about jared Allen? Then maybe Adams can get back on the field Razz

It doesn't matter if there weren't a lot of yards gained, it worked even if it was like a decoy. The offense finally is getting momentum and 100M qb is pouting.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 24, 2013 8:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SteelerPR wrote:
I will see the glass half full...

May be Ben is smarter than some and trying to fool other teams into thinking that there is no need to prepare against it...


Ok, I am liking this thought process, lets hope Cool
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 24, 2013 8:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Honestly though if I was a quarterback I'd not like it much either. You are open to being hit, and have to play completely out of position. I wouldn't be like Ben and complain if it is only a gimmick play maybe 1-2 plays occasionally.

Now if we for some dumb reason were playing it like the dolphins were, then he'd have every reason to complain.

This is just another case of Ben not being smart with what he says about the team. Starting to think he is more harm than good in the locker room lately.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 24, 2013 8:53 pm    Post subject: Re: Ben Doesn't Like Wildcat Reply with quote

3rivers wrote:
chrisororke wrote:
Just another reason to hate Ben. The Wildcat works. It has been working. It has yet to end in a first down, granted sometimes it was run two times in a row.

Quite simply the baby wants the ball and is more self centered than team-oriented. I like that he wants the ball in his hands, but if it works, than it works. Say Peyton Manning for example, his character is one of I want to win more than personal stats and he doesn't care if he has the ball or hands it off 40 times. But when he does have the ball, he makes plays. Make the most of your opportunities -Mike Tomlin. Ben is like I need the ball, I need the ball, and doesn't always make the play. That is a selfish player to always demand the ball and not a team player, which has always been the biggest criticism of Ben in my opinion.

Ben doesn't think they will run a lot more of it. I hate this. Who is running the franchise? The 100M QB or the coaches, GM, and owners. I am so over Ben. No player should ever be "bigger" than the franchise and I know Art Rooney Sr wouldn't tolerate this s*hit


Note: Le'Veon Bell loves how Todd Haley has been using his talents in I-Form, Shotgun, Wildcat, etc. If it works, than it works.


Yeah, Ben ran this franchise, but I thin they had enough. His buddy colon is gone finally and now they have a real RB and are geting results with creative playcalling. If ben keeps crying, It would be tempting to do something if he is in fact holding the franchise back. that O game plan was great last week, and now he complains? If ben gets hurt, the team might do well without him and of course pouncey.

In short, just sick of the rich players thinking they can have say in how things are done. Just execute what the coaches plan and what works and win. Like when Ben always said this is a passing team, well how did that work out? Bell is here, and this is the new Franco and the OL might keep getting better. I am looking forward to this season thanks to Haleys new playcalling. LeBeaus is another story though. Rolling Eyes


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hfYJsQAhl0

Seriously...I lost brain cells reading some of that.

Ben is holding the franchise back and we would do better without him?

Bell is the new Franco after one good game?

I cant even respond to those. They are so illogical and ridiculous that I have a hard time imagining anyone would ACTUALLY believe such absurdity.

And Ben didnt cry....at all. He just stated he didnt like being out wide like that and that there was more potential for things to go wrong....and he is 110% right about that.

It was just a wrinkle....its not going to happen much....he is not a player that should be lined up in the wildcat, so it makes sense why he wouldnt care for it.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 24, 2013 9:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Curtain wrote:
CKSteeler wrote:
The Wild Cat gained all of 18 yards against the Ravens, who had no reason to expect it. Roethlisberger being out wide is a waste of a body. You are basically playing 10 on a 11 because teams know they aren't going to throw a pass to him. It's not good for the run game. Nor will it open up many passes.

It was a wrinkle to give the Ravens front 7 something else to think about to slow down the pass rush. And maybe make them worry about some sort of trick play after the Jets game. That's it. It wasn't meant to be a permanent wrinkle.


^^^This.

We're not a wildcat offense. Nor do we have a reason to be. Just a different look to give the Ravens.


Actually Ben was covered by the CB every time. So, that would be 10 on 10
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