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Season Notes
The Vikings finish 5-11 and secure the 7th overall pick in the 2014 draft. Defense at almost every level is recognized by all as the biggest problem the Vikings had in 2013. On offense, Freeman gave the team a spark but still looked inconsistent at times. However, he was clearly the most talented QB on the roster and earned himself an extension. It’s unclear, though, if he has what it takes to be a Super Bowl winning QB so the position will still be a priority in the draft with an eye on developing someone to take the reins as the future of the franchise. Competing with or sitting behind Freeman for a year or two is a viable option.

After heavy consideration, Leslie Frazier, Bill Musgrave, and Alan Williams are all let go as the team looks to move in a more progressive direction.

2013 Trades
Christian Ponder to QB needy team (Rams, Eagles, Bears?) for 2014 6th round pick.


Coaching Hires

Arrow Head Coach: Greg Roman (49ers Offensive Coordinator)

Roman is one of the most well respected offensive coordinators in football and an innovative mind. He is creative in his offensive line schemes and puts his RBs in position to succeed by utilizing a variety of blocking techniques and adapting to the strengths/weaknesses of his ball carriers. He doesn’t neglect the pass, however, and is very creative in this area as well. Hiring Roman is a strong move away from a “vanilla” offensive scheme. He will emphasize the run but mix in the vertical passing game with focus on attacking the seams and the middle of the field primarily.

Arrow Offensive Coordinator: Cam Cameron (LSU Offensive Coordinator)

Cameron has revived the LSU offense, developed Zach Mettenberger, and is a perfect fit for a Greg Roman offense. A true “Air Coryell” proponent, Cameron will do well implementing the power running game out of multiple sets that allow for the threat of a down-field air attack.
To quote an LSU football source on what Cameron’s offensive roots, stemming from Don Coryell, are like:
“Coryell's style revolved around deep and intermediate routes opening up the short passing game, with a power-based, physical running game.
The Coryell offense relies on speed and timing from its wide receivers, with a lot of shifts and motions in formations. Routes need to hit the appropriate depth at the right time, and his offense often encouraged "speed" cuts on routes, or more rounded angles that allowed the wideouts to change direction without breaking stride (Note: this has also become more common as receivers get bigger -- 6-4 guys with long strides can't start and stop as quickly for the sharper cuts). Essentially, Coryell preferred to stretch defenses vertically.
In a quarterback, Coryell preferred having a big, strong-armed guy that could get the ball down the field and on time. Timing, and getting the ball out, is a premium for the QB but most concepts are designed to be read deep-to-short. Guys like Fouts, Troy Aikman and Kurt Warner were able to stand tall in the pocket and deliver that deep ball with the pass rush bearing down.”

The core philosophy of Roman’s/Cameron’s offense will be to pound the ball while making the defense defend the whole field due to the threat of the vertical passing game and the arm strength of our QB. This should effectively negate the constant 8-man box that Peterson faces.

Arrow Defensive Coordinator: John Chavis (LSU Defensive Coordinator)

Continuity on a coaching staff is always good, and we bring in another LSU coach here. After being extremely impressed with the overall play of the LSU team in 2013, Spielman did due diligence on the coaching staff and decided Chavis earned himself a shot in the NFL. He has an excellent track record. Having engineered some of the stingiest defenses in the nation at Alabama A&M, Tennessee, and now LSU. Also, his defensive scheme is an excellent fit with the talent already in place in Minnesota.
Quote from an Alabama football blog on Chavis’ prowess and defensive style:
“Chavis has done a magnificent job as LSU’s Defensive Coordinator. He was recently awarded the Broyles Award as the most outstanding assistant coach in college football. “Chief” has installed a very aggressive 4-3 scheme and the Tigers have responded by becoming one of the top defenses in all of college football.
Because LSU uses a four down lineman front, they have recruited very quick and athletic defensive linemen. LSU’s roster is full of outstanding defensive linemen and they will rotate seven or eight during the course of a game to keep them fresh.
Because of their outstanding cornerbacks, LSU plays a lot of man coverage, or a “Tampa 2″ combination, where the corners cover the wide receivers in man coverage, with the two safeties helping with deep coverage. Because LSU can cover the pass with their defensive backs, Chavis can be extremely aggressive with his blitz packages. On obvious passing downs, LSU will bring five, six or even seven rushers in an attempt to make opposing quarterbacks rush their throws. It has been very effective all year.Where LSU is particulary dangerous is when they force teams into third and long situations. In these situations, LSU will replace a linebacker with an additional defensive back and move Mathieu to nickleback, lining him up in different locations to let him blitz from all over the field. While Mathieu is a very good cover corner, he is more dangerous blitzing, as his speed creates mismatches with larger offensive linemen or tight ends trying to block him.”

It is essentially a similar scheme to the one we run now but with more fluidity and aggressive pass rushing. Chavis is an excellent hire for the Vikings.

Free Agency

Vikings Leaving via Free Agency:
QB Matt Cassel
RB Toby Gerhart
WR Joe Webb
OG Charlie Johnson
OG Seth Olsen
C Joe Berger
DE Jared Allen
DT Kevin Williams
LB Desmond Bishop
LB Marvin Mitchell
CB AJ Jefferson
CB Bobby Felder

Vikings Returning via Free Agency:
QB Josh Freeman
WR Jerome Simpson
OT J’Marcus Webb
CB Marcus Sherels
CB Chris Cook
LB Larry Dean
DT Fred Evans
DE Brian Robison
DE Everson Griffen

2014 Free Agency Additions:

Arrow OG Jon Asamoah (Kansas City Chiefs)

A very well rounded offensive guard with a big, bruising frame, Asamoah has played at a high level for the Chiefs and the Vikings believe he is ready to take the next step and become one of the NFL's best guards in Greg Roman's innovative blocking system.

Arrow RB Joique Bell (Detroit Lions)

The perfect complimentary back that the Vikings have been missing, Bell is a jack of all trades back who can run in the straight ahead power game, one-cut zone game, catch passes, and pick up the blitz. A very underrated player and nice steal for Minny, taking him away from a division rival.

Arrow DE Willie Young (Detroit Lions)

Another steal from the Lions, Young has shown this year that he has what it takes to be a solid NFL player. He's a young, well balanced defensive end with great size (6'6'', 260 pounds) and speed to feature or rotate in as part of a 4-3 scheme.

Arrow CB Walter Thurmond (Seattle Seahawks)

Perhaps our biggest "upside" signing, Walter Thurmond has shown flashes in limited action for the Seahawks. He is tall, physical, and very athletic - the perfect mold for a John Chavis, man coverage CB who can be left on an island, even in press, and hold his own.

2014 NFL Draft:

1. Mike Evans, WR, Texas A&M

A huge target and the most dangerous WR in the draft, Evans gives the Vikings a true vertical threat that defenses must game plan for every week. His ability to win jump ball situations down-field combined with Freeman's or Mettenberger's arm strength is exciting. Defense is the need, but BPA cannot be ignored here.

2. Zach Mettenberger, QB, LSU

Cameron's pupil at LSU and the prototype QB for the Vikings offensive game-plan of the future, Mettenberger comes into the perfect situation for him to develop into a top 10 NFL quarterback, especially since there will be no immediate pressure for him to start. He's got the arm talent, big frame, and pass-first mentality that will allow him to thrive once he settles and is ready to take the reins. Having his college OC, who helped turn him into one of the most efficient passers in CFB during his senior season, will be a tremendous benefit.

3. LaMarcus Joyner, NCB, Florida State

Undersized but an elite athlete, Joyner gives the Vikings the nickel-corner they sorely need and provides DC John Chavis a Tyann Mathieu clone to work with as his hybrid Nickel CB/Free Safety rover.

3. Da’Quan Jones, DT, Penn State

Another Chavis staple, big but athletic interior DL players who excel at knifing through gaps, Jones will play the 1-Tech lined up next to Shariff Floyd. Don't mistake him for a run-stuffer only, though, because the big man (6'3'', 320 lbs) can move quickly and get after the passer when asked. Penn State has produced some quality interior defensive lineman lately, and Jones is next in line.

4. Denzel Perryman, ILB, Miami

Perhaps the steal of the draft, Perryman looks like Ray Lewis. Standing 6'0'' at 240 lbs, Perryman is a well-rounded linebacker from "The U". He is surprisingly fast and athletic and has good hips for dropping into coverage. He is great in pursuit on edge plays and screens and can cover the entire field laterally. Loves to knock pads and hits the hole fast due to his quick acceleration. His college career has been a struggle at times due to injuries, but Perryman is having an outstanding senior year and could be a far better pro than he ever was in college. Star in the making right here.

5. Pierre Desir, CB, Lindenwood

Who? This year's Robert Alford, except better. Desir (6', 205 lbs) is a big, athletic CB who is tenacious in press and has top-end speed to stick on his man. Also has nice ball skills to go up, contend, and even secure the INT over bigger WRs. If he went to a D1 school, or even a school like Southeastern Louisiana (Alford's alma mater), Desir would be a Day 2 pick but he has too many level of competition questions for most teams so he drops to the Vikings, and a giddy John Chavis, in round 5. With these big, athletic CBs it really allows us more blitz options.

6. Demarcus Lawrence, DE/OLB, Boise State

After dealing with multiple suspensions during college, Demarcus Lawrence falls to the Vikings in Round 6 when he should have gone much higher. With the veterans in place and a new, energized feeling to the organization, the team believes Lawrence can come in and stay focused, especially because he will have a role as a rookie. A really explosive pass-rusher, Lawrence is slightly undersized (6'3'', 245 lbs) to play 4-3 DE but as a rotational guy he could be a great asset right away. He is too quick for most OTs too handle and Chavis loves fast DEs.

6. Marqueston Huff, FS, Wyoming

Marqueston Huff is a feisty, aggressive free safety with elite speed. He will likely be the fastest safety at the combine and run in the high 4.3s. He is on the smaller side (5'11'', 190) and plays at a low level of competition but Mountain West fans will tell you he is a fierce competitor and play-maker. Very rangy and a natural ball-hawk who has also spent time at CB. Not afraid to stick someone in the run game and had a crazy 18 tackle (8 solo) performance earlier this season and added a forced fumble in that game as well.

7. Zach Fulton, OG, Tennessee

Surprisingly balanced guard to be given such a late grade, and it may have to do with being overshadowed by Tennessee's premier OTs, Antonio Richardson and JuWuan James, but Fulton is a beast in his own right. He stands 6'5'' and weighs in at 325 pounds. He's locked down the right guard spot as a starter in 28 out of UT's last 31 games and his road-grading size and power make him a clear option for a power running scheme, but he also shows nice balance and patience when he gets to the second level. Don't see him reach or lunge for blocks very often and once he gets on a man he is driving him back at will. Fulton is a sleeper to watch and I believe he could challenge Fusco from Day 1.

Priority UDFA’s:

1. Adam Kennedy, QB, Arkansas State (6'5'', 220 lbs)
Big frame, big arm, underrated athlete who runs well for his size. Perfect developmental talent.

2. Stanley Jean-Baptiste, CB, Nebraska (6'3''. 220 lbs)
Huge size, nice athlete, pretty raw. Switched from WR. Potential is there but will take work.

3. Roderick McDowell, RB, Clemson (5'10'', 195 lbs)
Speedy back with nice wiggle in space and prowess as a pass catcher. Can provide depth at KR and PR.

4. Ted Bolser, TE, Indiana (6'6'', 250 lbs)
A big TE who can block but also features in Iowa's highly productive passing offense. Doesn't quite have the athleticism to be a premier receiving TE or the power to anchor the edge as a blocker, but he's well balanced and makes for a nice TE3 that may be inactive on gameday or could play a role when called on. Much cheaper than John Carlson but not much drop off in talent level.

5. Anthony Hitchens, OLB, Iowa (6'1'', 230 lbs)
Recruited as a 6'0'', 195 pound running back, Hitchens hit the weights and the dinner table and switched to outside linebacker at Iowa. He's very fast for the position and great in pursuit. Racked up 124 tackles last year. Shows the athletic ability to drop in coverage but lacks awareness at this point. Is pretty undersized but still getting bigger. A likely candidate for the practice squad, Hitchens has the upside to be a starter or rotational OLB some day, and at worst he's Larry Dean's eventual replacement as undersized special teams ace.

6. Jeff Janis, WR, Saginaw Valley State (6'3'', 205 lbs)
A hugely productive DII receiver, Janis is a big guy with wheels to boot who will run in the 4.3s. Height-weight-speed will get him on the practice squad alone, but it is nice to have seen him dominate his level of competition so extensively.

2014-2015 Depth Chart

- Starters in bold
- Free agent additions in red
- Rookies in purple
- Rotational players or training camp battles will be split with a ~ instead of //


QB: Josh Freeman // Zach Mettenberger
RB: Adrian Peterson // Joique Bell // Roderick McDowell
FB: Jerome Felton
WR1: Mike Evans // Jerome Simpson // Rodney Smith
WR2: Greg Jennings // Jarius Wright
WR3: Cordarrelle Patterson
TE: Kyle Rudolph // Rhett Ellison // Ted Bolser

LT: Matt Kalil // J’Marcus Webb
LG: Jon Asamoah // Jeff Baca
C: John Sullivan // Jeff Baca
RG: Brandon Fusco – Zach Fulton
RT: Phil Loadholt // J’Marcus Webb


DE: Everson Griffen // Willie Young
DT: Shariff Floyd // Everett Dawkins // Letroy Guion
NT: DaQuan Jones // Fred Evans // Letroy Guion
DE: Brian Robison // Demarcus Lawrence

WLB: Erin Henderson // Gerald Hodges
MLB: Denzel Perryman // Michael Mauti
SLB: Chad Greenway // Audie Cole // Larry Dean

CB1: Xavier Rhodes // Pierre Desir // Marcus Sherels
CB2: Chris Cook – Walter Thurmond // Pierre Desir
NCB: LaMarcus Joyner

FS: Harrison Smith // Marqueston Huff // LaMarcus Joyner
SS: Jamarca Sanford // Robert Blanton


K: Blair Walsh
P: Jeff Locke
LS: Cullen Loeffler
KR: Cordarrelle Patterson
PR: Marcus Sherels


1. CB Stanley Jean-Baptise
2. OT/OG Travis Bond
3. QB Adam Kennedy
4. OLB Anthony Hitchens
5. WR Jeff Janis
6. FS Brandon Bishop
7. RB Joe Banyard
8. OT Kevin Murphy
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We barely use CP84 as it is, just don't see the value in drafting Mike Evans unless we get rid of Jerome Simpson

Prediction: Derek Carr = next Brandon Weeden; Zach Mett will be a good starter; Manziel will be a STAR.
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Bell is a restricted free agent and we wouldn't have enough money for Asamoah, Freeman, Thurmond, simpson, and draft picks IMO.

Not to mention it's more likely at this point that the Seahawks let Browner go and keep Thurmond.

I do like a lot of the prospects you have us going with in the draft though. I have Joyner in the one I'm working on. However, Evans, CP, Jennings, and Simpson in overkill Is there a connection between Roman and the LSU coaches? In my head it would make more sense for him to bring along Geep Chryst as his offensive guy and a defensive assistant from San Fran to be DC. However if the systems are similar than it would certainly make sense to grab an experienced coordinator. Roman strikes me as the type of guy who would want to call the plays.

All those criticisms aside this would be a great offseason and good foundation to build on moving forward.

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Good mock overall, I like Evans and Mettenberger and I love the head coach hire in Roman.

Just a few criticisms:

The Seahawks will do everything in there power to keep thurmond, and they will probably be more likely to let Browner walk. Further, Thurmond is from the Pac Northwest, so i just dont see him uprooting to MN when Seattle will probably make him a strong offer. I like Thurmond, dont get me wrong. He is a fantastic slot Cb, but he should really be starting and probably will get that opportunity next year.

I am not a fan of Cam Cameron, he is too much like Musgrave and I cant see Roman going for Cameron given that Roman is more creative and will want control over the offense. Cameron and Roman are complete opposites as coaches and there would be a conflict of identity. Cameron might be a potential hire if Frazier stays or Lovie Smith is hired.

I dont like the DC hire from LSU, but i dont know much about him. id guess that since roman is a young head coach, he will want a strong DC who has been in the league so Roman can focus on the offense.
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You want to use the top 2 draft picks on offense, plus re-sign Freeman and Simpson, plus sign the most expensive OG in free agency?

Have you noticed how bad the defense is this year?
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Couple of comments in response so far.

Roman and Cameron are not opposites. They both have ties in the Walsh coaching tree and share the philosophy of power running mixed with vertical passing. Also, if you have watched LSU this year Cameron seems to have opened up the playbook a bit more and is taking more shots/working out of various formations.

May be right about us not being able to sign those guys and still keep Jerome Simpson, but I think Simpson is nowhere near as good as his stats suggest so far this year. IMO, he shouldn't be a starting WR in the NFL. If we give him a fair deal with the promise that he will be an important piece of our offense moving forward I think it's more than he could ask for on many other teams.

John Chavis has been an excellent DC for every team he's worked with and has coached up some of the stingiest defenses in college football. His scheme fits most of our talent already in place.

Thurmond may be a stretch, but we could possibly entice him with the offer of starting and being one of the best players on our defense. He would take a backseat to other players if he remained in Seattle.
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Offense overkill here, when the main problem is defense
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I will admit free agency and salaray cap stuff is not my forte.

The coaching hires and the draft are what I put most thought into and consider myself the most knowledgeable about.

Also, I don't really see it as offensive overkill. I see it as capitalizing on BPA and adding skill players. Also, more defensive impact players are available later in the draft than than offensive impact players.

I like my strategy of taking key offensive positions early and then loading on defense.
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Not a fan of the coaches, but is a very good draft. Yesterday I wouldn't have said it but this team has holes everywhere. Very nice draft. Have to take the best football player available.

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You think the Vikings get 5 wins this season?

Right now I don't see them picking any lower than 4th.
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Lil Uno wrote:
Not a fan of the coaches, but is a very good draft. Yesterday I wouldn't have said it but this team has holes everywhere. Very nice draft. Have to take the best football player available.

Thanks, Uno. Appreciate it. I agree that on a team this bad and so inept across the board you need to go BPA.

If a team was middle of the pack but really just a vital piece or two away from taking that next step, then it's easier to justify grabbing a positional need even though a better talent may still be on the board. Not so for our team, hoewever.

My top 10 big board looks like this right now:

1. Teddy Bridgewater, QB, Louisville
2. Jadeveon Clowney, DE, South Carolina
3. Mike Evans, WR, Texas A&M
4. Anthony Barr, OLB/DE, UCLA
5. CJ Mosley, LB, Alabama
6. Jake Matthews, OT, Texas A&M
7. Khalil Mack, OLB, Buffalo
8. Taylor Lewan, OT, Michigan
9. Eric Ebron, TE, UNC
10. Sammy Watkins, WR, Clemson

So out of that list, I would cross off Matthews & Lewan due to our depth at the OT position and possibly Ebron because we can't afford to take such a high pick on a position that I'm not confident our (new?) offensive coordinator will be able to utilize (though Rudolph+Ebron would be a nasty combo and mismatch nightmare for defenses). Also I would rather not take Sammy Watkins because I think he's supremely talented but a bit one dimensional (speed for days but not much else) and would be better off on a team with an established offensive system and QB already in place.

Other than that, I would just go down the list and take BPA.
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Big fan of Asamoah , they should have drafted him that idea if Thurmond would come, but if so, I'd be all for that also.

I don't know if I'd take a WR there. I get the BPA concept, but is he that much better than the best CB/DL available? I'd rather that be an impact defensive player, if you don't like any QB there.

And, no chance they win 4 more games. None. Notta. Nil. Nyet (cheating, admittedly)
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And, no chance they win 4 more games. None. Notta. Nil. Nyet (cheating, admittedly)

I put this out before the NYG game and was counting that as a win. Thought we might open up the playbook with a more physically talented QB and was hoping for an energized defense coming off the bye. If we had gotten a solid win last night I could have seen the team gaining some momentum and winning a couple more games here and there because we would be staying competitive and you never know what bounces you will get in the 4th quarter.

After that beat down, though, you're probably right. Team is demoralized, coaching staff is rigid and set in their ways it would appear, and the defense lacks any sort of passion. My only hope is that once Freeman learns the offense more and gets in sync with the WRs we get more creative because of his ability to execute more throws than Ponder or Cassel could, but at this point I doubt it.
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Like Mettenberger in the 2nd, but outside of that, i think this is pretty bad.
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Like Mettenberger in the 2nd, but outside of that, i think this is pretty bad.

Care to elaborate?
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