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ragevsuall17


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 25, 2013 12:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SoundScan wrote:
The team isn't going to move anytime soon. They're contracted through 2028, and the agreement is locktight. To buyout the contract they'd be required to pay Tennessee for the LP field construction costs. So we'd get our money back plus a free stadium.

That said, what non-NFL market is there that's larger than Nashville outside Los Angeles? And they've had an NFL franchise twice and still failed to support it.


Contracts and leases are meant to be broken... all it takes is a good attorney to work on a technicality and go with it.

Most teams are operating under "ironclad" leases/contracts... including the Jaguars. Do you think that's really going to prevent the NFL and Kahn from moving the franchise if/when they finally decide to do so?
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 25, 2013 1:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ragevsuall17 wrote:
SoundScan wrote:
The team isn't going to move anytime soon. They're contracted through 2028, and the agreement is locktight. To buyout the contract they'd be required to pay Tennessee for the LP field construction costs. So we'd get our money back plus a free stadium.

That said, what non-NFL market is there that's larger than Nashville outside Los Angeles? And they've had an NFL franchise twice and still failed to support it.


Contracts and leases are meant to be broken... all it takes is a good attorney to work on a technicality and go with it.

Most teams are operating under "ironclad" leases/contracts... including the Jaguars. Do you think that's really going to prevent the NFL and Kahn from moving the franchise if/when they finally decide to do so?


Neither the Titans or Jaguars are going anywhere. Both the Dolphins and Bucs are more likely to move than the Jaguars and that's just in the state of Florida alone. Kahn has poured so much money in to that city, they're not doing terribly in terms of attendance(usually finished middle of the league, and they're averaging about the same as the Giants since 2006 in % of tickets sold(if you take out 2009 for the Jags and Giants, the Giants are at 97.5%, Jags at 96.1%).

Titans have been at 100% attendance, year in/year out since they moved in to the Coliseum/LP Field.

There's quite a few teams(a majority of the league in the Titans case) doing worse than the Jags and Titans in ticket sales.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 26, 2013 7:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TitanLegend wrote:
ragevsuall17 wrote:
SoundScan wrote:
The team isn't going to move anytime soon. They're contracted through 2028, and the agreement is locktight. To buyout the contract they'd be required to pay Tennessee for the LP field construction costs. So we'd get our money back plus a free stadium.

That said, what non-NFL market is there that's larger than Nashville outside Los Angeles? And they've had an NFL franchise twice and still failed to support it.


Contracts and leases are meant to be broken... all it takes is a good attorney to work on a technicality and go with it.

Most teams are operating under "ironclad" leases/contracts... including the Jaguars. Do you think that's really going to prevent the NFL and Kahn from moving the franchise if/when they finally decide to do so?


Neither the Titans or Jaguars are going anywhere. Both the Dolphins and Bucs are more likely to move than the Jaguars and that's just in the state of Florida alone. Kahn has poured so much money in to that city, they're not doing terribly in terms of attendance(usually finished middle of the league, and they're averaging about the same as the Giants since 2006 in % of tickets sold(if you take out 2009 for the Jags and Giants, the Giants are at 97.5%, Jags at 96.1%).

Titans have been at 100% attendance, year in/year out since they moved in to the Coliseum/LP Field.

There's quite a few teams(a majority of the league in the Titans case) doing worse than the Jags and Titans in ticket sales.



I agree there are other teams more likely to move than the Titans... I'm just warning to not let an"ironclad agreement" fool anyone into thinking its beyond the realm of possibility. Its fools gold is all it is..

And while the Titans might "sell out" every game... attendance is not 100%, and hasn't been consistently since the early part of the last decade (maybe 04?). Tickets are still being sold, but revenue is being lost from merch and food and beverage.

If the team is sold, new ownership will consider everything. If the Titans can remain profitable, the move is unlikely... but nothing is 100% guaranteed...
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 27, 2013 12:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ragevsuall17 wrote:

I agree there are other teams more likely to move than the Titans... I'm just warning to not let an"ironclad agreement" fool anyone into thinking its beyond the realm of possibility. Its fools gold is all it is..


The Titans could attempt to buyout the lease and leave right now if they wanted to, but at substantial cost. Any lease can be broken for a price--hence the inclusion of the word buyout in my original post. They would have to make the city financially whole as stipulated in the agreement. In our case that would include--among other expensive considerations--repaying the city's bond debt from the stadium's construction. Regardless, the NFL is not going to approve the relocation of a profitable team that's only halfway through a 30-year lease agreement. Doing so would undermine the contractual stability of every team in the league.
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Looking at the Vikings game it sounds like a Packers home game. But you dont see NBC falling over themselves to show every Packer jersey like Fox did us.
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