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PostPosted: Sat Oct 19, 2013 6:13 pm    Post subject: 2014 KC Chiefs Skeleton Depth Chart Reply with quote

This is the initial depth chart after roster cut downs. It has been frozen at kickoff of the first regular season week.

The Kansas City Chiefs provide a continually updated depth chart here.

Color codes:

black: returning 2013 player
bold: under contract through 2014
blue: Free Agent Acquisition
red: Trade Acquisition
green: Draft Pick
orange: UDFA Acquisition

Offense

RT - Allen, R. Harris, Stephenson (suspended through week 4)
RG - Fulton, McGlynn
OC - R. Hudson, Kush
LG - Linkenbach, Duvernay-Tardif
LT - Fisher

Practice Squad: Henry (OG), Gottschalk (C)

QB - A. Smith, Daniel, Murray

Injured Reserve: Bray

RB - Charles, Davis, Thomas, Gray, McKnight
FB - Sherman

Practice Squad: Campbell, West

WR - Wilson, Jenkins, Bowe (suspended through week 1)
Slot - Hemingway
WR - Avery, Hammond

Practice Squad: F. Williams, Surgent

TE - Fasano, Kelce, D. Harris

Defense

DE - DeVito, Square
NT - Poe, V. Walker
DE - Bailey, Howard

Practice Squad: Schwenke (DE), Fangupo (DT)
Reserve/NFI: Catapano (DE)

WOLB - Hali, Ford, Martin
WILB - D. Johnson, J.M. Johnson
SILB - Mauga
SOLB - Houston, Zombo

Practice Squad: N. Johnson, Franklin
Injured Reserve:Mays (DFR)


CB - S. Smith, Parker
NB - Owens
CB - Cooper, Gaines

Injured Reserve: DeMarcus Van Dyke

FS - Abdullah, McCray, Coleman
SS - Berry, Sorensen

Injured Reserve: Commings (IR)

Specialists

K - Santos
P - Colquitt
LS - Gafford
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 08, 2014 5:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just had another look at this one.

Serious concerns I have:

RG - R. Johnson
CB - LCB/slot
depth across most of the roster
age (Hali, Flowers, D.Johnson)

Some concerns:

WR - Jenkins or Avery as #2 (however, not bad 2nd half of 2013)
S - Commings is an unknown
TE - Kelce is an unknown
PK - Succop just doesn't have the range I expect a good PK to have
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PostPosted: Sun May 11, 2014 11:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's a post-draft depth chart. However, the Chiefs will have released some players as you read this, as the roster strength this chart is built on is well above 90 ... 97 to be precise.

Guess some RB and DL will be gone ..
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PostPosted: Sun May 11, 2014 12:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

KC_Guy wrote:
Just had another look at this one.

Serious concerns I have:

RG - R. Johnson
CB - LCB/slot
depth across most of the roster
age (Hali, Flowers, D.Johnson)

Some concerns:

WR - Jenkins or Avery as #2 (however, not bad 2nd half of 2013)
S - Commings is an unknown
TE - Kelce is an unknown
PK - Succop just doesn't have the range I expect a good PK to have


As I mentioned in another thread, I believe we entered the offseason with some serious concerns and it is my opinion we didn't do much to address those concerns this offseason. Time will tell.
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PostPosted: Sun May 11, 2014 12:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nicfre2011 wrote:
KC_Guy wrote:
Just had another look at this one.

Serious concerns I have:

RG - R. Johnson - Fulton
CB - LCB/slot - Gaines
depth across most of the roster - depends on how guys grade out, most FA signings were depth
age (Hali, Flowers, D. Johnson) - Ford, Gaines

Some concerns:

WR - Jenkins or Avery as #2 (however, not bad 2nd half of 2013)
S - Commings is an unknown
TE - Kelce is an unknown
PK - Succop just doesn't have the range I expect a good PK to have - Santos (not the guy I hoped they sign though)


As I mentioned in another thread, I believe we entered the offseason with some serious concerns and it is my opinion we didn't do much to address those concerns this offseason. Time will tell.


I think they did, not as prominent as you may have expected .. but ... see above!
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PostPosted: Sun May 11, 2014 12:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

KC_Guy wrote:
nicfre2011 wrote:
KC_Guy wrote:
Just had another look at this one.

Serious concerns I have:

RG - R. Johnson - Fulton
CB - LCB/slot - Gaines
depth across most of the roster - depends on how guys grade out, most FA signings were depth
age (Hali, Flowers, D. Johnson) - Ford, Gaines

Some concerns:

WR - Jenkins or Avery as #2 (however, not bad 2nd half of 2013)
S - Commings is an unknown
TE - Kelce is an unknown
PK - Succop just doesn't have the range I expect a good PK to have - Santos (not the guy I hoped they sign though)


As I mentioned in another thread, I believe we entered the offseason with some serious concerns and it is my opinion we didn't do much to address those concerns this offseason. Time will tell.


I think they did, not as prominent as you may have expected .. but ... see above!


I hope they did! So you are saying you are ok with the idea of Johnson or Fulton being penciled in at RG? I also think alot is being put on Commings being penciled in at FS by this staff. Positional projections are unknowns. I hate to hear Dorsey make comments about Gaines possibly fitting at safety. I think we need to draft players and let them grow at a position. If they fail and there is a potential fit elsewhere, then give them a shot. Positional vseratility is a plus but so is positional stability - especially in a young players development.
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PostPosted: Sun May 11, 2014 2:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

KC I love these threads. They are one of the best resources on the web.

Jenkins either wins a starting spot or he does not make the roster.

I am very glad we spent our first draft pick getting a replacement for Hali. If he works out, that will be a huge lift. When Houston went down, the defense started to crack under pressure.

I am less concerned about RG than you are. That is a place we can rent a veteran for a year or two. The OL will shuffle around a great deal, but we have bodies for the depth chart.

Quality depth seems to have been the target of this draft. We can sift UDFA for ST players and projects, but we are very thin across the board. You need only look at D'A T to see that. Lots of players Pioli and Haley would have found uses for have been cut. I just hope Reid and Dorsey are as good at finding players on the street.

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PostPosted: Sun May 11, 2014 3:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nicfre2011 wrote:
I hope they did! So you are saying you are ok with the idea of Johnson or Fulton being penciled in at RG? I also think alot is being put on Commings being penciled in at FS by this staff. Positional projections are unknowns. I hate to hear Dorsey make comments about Gaines possibly fitting at safety. I think we need to draft players and let them grow at a position. If they fail and there is a potential fit elsewhere, then give them a shot. Positional vseratility is a plus but so is positional stability - especially in a young players development.


The team took a page from the Baltimore book of roster management. I cannot fault them on that. There is always a supply of warm bodies to slap on a bleeding injury, but you cannot neglect the core unless you want to be Jerry Jones.

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PostPosted: Sun May 11, 2014 4:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nicfre2011 wrote:
KC_Guy wrote:
nicfre2011 wrote:
KC_Guy wrote:
Just had another look at this one.

Serious concerns I have:

RG - R. Johnson - Fulton
CB - LCB/slot - Gaines
depth across most of the roster - depends on how guys grade out, most FA signings were depth
age (Hali, Flowers, D. Johnson) - Ford, Gaines

Some concerns:

WR - Jenkins or Avery as #2 (however, not bad 2nd half of 2013)
S - Commings is an unknown
TE - Kelce is an unknown
PK - Succop just doesn't have the range I expect a good PK to have - Santos (not the guy I hoped they sign though)


As I mentioned in another thread, I believe we entered the offseason with some serious concerns and it is my opinion we didn't do much to address those concerns this offseason. Time will tell.


I think they did, not as prominent as you may have expected .. but ... see above!


I hope they did! So you are saying you are ok with the idea of Johnson or Fulton being penciled in at RG? I also think alot is being put on Commings being penciled in at FS by this staff. Positional projections are unknowns. I hate to hear Dorsey make comments about Gaines possibly fitting at safety. I think we need to draft players and let them grow at a position. If they fail and there is a potential fit elsewhere, then give them a shot. Positional vseratility is a plus but so is positional stability - especially in a young players development.


Nic, I can definitely understand your concerns, but just try to keep in mind Sutton doesn't really follow traditional defensive alignment "rules". He used Berry as a deep safety, in press man coverage, in shallow zone, as a LB, a DE and in the nickel last year. Just because Dorsey says Gaines could maybe play safety doesn't mean we don't have a defined role for him. It just means he's versatile enough to move around in Sutton's defense. That's a good thing, not a bad thing.

If there is a position on this roster I'm concerned about, it's right guard. Eek.
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PostPosted: Sun May 11, 2014 5:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nicfre2011 wrote:
KC_Guy wrote:
nicfre2011 wrote:
KC_Guy wrote:
Just had another look at this one.

Serious concerns I have:

RG - R. Johnson - Fulton
CB - LCB/slot - Gaines
depth across most of the roster - depends on how guys grade out, most FA signings were depth
age (Hali, Flowers, D. Johnson) - Ford, Gaines

Some concerns:

WR - Jenkins or Avery as #2 (however, not bad 2nd half of 2013)
S - Commings is an unknown
TE - Kelce is an unknown
PK - Succop just doesn't have the range I expect a good PK to have - Santos (not the guy I hoped they sign though)


As I mentioned in another thread, I believe we entered the offseason with some serious concerns and it is my opinion we didn't do much to address those concerns this offseason. Time will tell.


I think they did, not as prominent as you may have expected .. but ... see above!


I hope they did! So you are saying you are ok with the idea of Johnson or Fulton being penciled in at RG? I also think alot is being put on Commings being penciled in at FS by this staff. Positional projections are unknowns. I hate to hear Dorsey make comments about Gaines possibly fitting at safety. I think we need to draft players and let them grow at a position. If they fail and there is a potential fit elsewhere, then give them a shot. Positional vseratility is a plus but so is positional stability - especially in a young players development.


Teams who are consistently good take player like Rishaw Johnson, plug them in and play them saving millions of dollars at a position of little importance (in the overall scheme of things anyway) and have them contribute in a positive way. You have to have faith that we are doing this the right way, like a good team would. It wasn't like Johnson didn't play really well vs San Diego last year. We have a 5 man competition at RG basically now with our 2 late draft picks, Watkins, Linkenbach, and Rishaw. We'll be fine there.
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PostPosted: Sun May 11, 2014 5:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nicfre2011 wrote:
KC_Guy wrote:
nicfre2011 wrote:
KC_Guy wrote:
Just had another look at this one.

Serious concerns I have:

RG - R. Johnson - Fulton
CB - LCB/slot - Gaines
depth across most of the roster - depends on how guys grade out, most FA signings were depth
age (Hali, Flowers, D. Johnson) - Ford, Gaines

Some concerns:

WR - Jenkins or Avery as #2 (however, not bad 2nd half of 2013)
S - Commings is an unknown
TE - Kelce is an unknown
PK - Succop just doesn't have the range I expect a good PK to have - Santos (not the guy I hoped they sign though)


As I mentioned in another thread, I believe we entered the offseason with some serious concerns and it is my opinion we didn't do much to address those concerns this offseason. Time will tell.


I think they did, not as prominent as you may have expected .. but ... see above!


I hope they did! So you are saying you are ok with the idea of Johnson or Fulton being penciled in at RG? I also think alot is being put on Commings being penciled in at FS by this staff. Positional projections are unknowns. I hate to hear Dorsey make comments about Gaines possibly fitting at safety. I think we need to draft players and let them grow at a position. If they fail and there is a potential fit elsewhere, then give them a shot. Positional vseratility is a plus but so is positional stability - especially in a young players development.


Dorsey said we were gonna play Gaines at CB. The Safety crap was brought up by stupid reporters, and Dorsey said he had the versatility to maybe do that.
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Rearviewmirror wrote:
Dorsey said we were gonna play Gaines at CB. The Safety crap was brought up by stupid reporters, and Dorsey said he had the versatility to maybe do that.


That makes sense because we need more press corners and that is what Gaines played.

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relevant to this thread, Adam Teicher did an article on the reoster's revolving door.
http://espn.go.com/blog/kansas-city-chiefs/post/_/id/5880/have-the-chiefs-really-improved

On the whole, I like the team's BPA approach. Granted Ford and Gaines have no starter spot waiting, by 2016 they could be entrenched starters. It would have been nice to add a WR, but a rookie was not going to improve the team. Hopefully the players we have will be better able to play the offense we have.

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With OTAs in the books and minicamp coming up - some thoughts:

OL: With Fisher out a major building block is missing right now. But I wonder why Stephenson plays LT all the time. Does it make any sense to have him adjust to the left side for all of pre-season, only to switch him back to the right side in camp? I'm not sure that would be my approach if I'm so confident in Fisher taking over LT. Actually, I expect Fisher to play RT another year - he got some time there last year, he may be more comfortable to repeat given the short timeframe of TC to make a switch.

WR: Dressler or Wilson in the slot? I think there's only room for one midgetman. Or Hemingway? I read alot of good stuff about UDFA Surgent, so he may be in the mix as well.The weird thing: No word about Jenkins so far.

TE: Harris seems on the rise - but to replace whom? McGrath? Haven't heard anything but that he got his beard back growing. Fasano? Provides another 900 k$ in cap space. Kelce - who still has issues with his knee? I could see him going on IR again if he doesn't get REALLY healthy until TC.

DL: Looks like Walker has some issues outplaying Bailey - which may be a good thing (if Bailey improved) or a bad one (if Walker is worse than Bailey was). But that's about the only thing to discuss here. Poe's backup is a huge ?????.

CB: I have Cooper and Smith starting now, with Owens as NB. Gaines will challenge Cooper, as will Ron Parker. After that - not much left. Moving Gaines to S would be stupid after the Flowers release. Would not be surprised to see another veteran added here.

S: Abdullah or Commings?I'll go with Abdullah right now. #4/5 Safety should be a battle between Bronson and Sorensen (read a lot of good stuff about him).

ST: Succop or Santos? Succop has the tie breaker against him - money. Santos is not a camp leg - this one is fpr real!
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KC_Guy wrote:
With OTAs in the books and minicamp coming up - some thoughts:

OL: With Fisher out a major building block is missing right now. But I wonder why Stephenson plays LT all the time. Does it make any sense to have him adjust to the left side for all of pre-season, only to switch him back to the right side in camp? I'm not sure that would be my approach if I'm so confident in Fisher taking over LT. Actually, I expect Fisher to play RT another year - he got some time there last year, he may be more comfortable to repeat given the short timeframe of TC to make a switch.

[b]WR: Dressler or Wilson in the slot? I think there's only room for one midgetman. Or Hemingway? I read alot of good stuff about UDFA Surgent, so he may be in the mix as well.The weird thing: No word about Jenkins so far.[/b]

TE: Harris seems on the rise - but to replace whom? McGrath? Haven't heard anything but that he got his beard back growing. Fasano? Provides another 900 k$ in cap space. Kelce - who still has issues with his knee? I could see him going on IR again if he doesn't get REALLY healthy until TC.

DL: Looks like Walker has some issues outplaying Bailey - which may be a good thing (if Bailey improved) or a bad one (if Walker is worse than Bailey was). But that's about the only thing to discuss here. Poe's backup is a huge ?????.

CB: I have Cooper and Smith starting now, with Owens as NB. Gaines will challenge Cooper, as will Ron Parker. After that - not much left. Moving Gaines to S would be stupid after the Flowers release. Would not be surprised to see another veteran added here.

S: Abdullah or Commings?I'll go with Abdullah right now. #4/5 Safety should be a battle between Bronson and Sorensen (read a lot of good stuff about him).

ST: Succop or Santos? Succop has the tie breaker against him - money. Santos is not a camp leg - this one is fpr real!


I've questioned Dressler before, but i'm cautiously optimistic...Welker was overlooked too. What I do know is it won't be Williams he's neither good enough nor has he had enough time with the team...so if it's not a combo of Dressler/DAT, it'll be somebody else either that another team cuts or Bowe/Avery/Jenkins as our top 3 WR's will spend time there. Don't know if Hemingway is a slot guy, but I trust him to contribute as well...I think the receiving core is more solid and dependable than people think, but not overly exciting or dangerous other than when Bowe catches a slant or makes that first guy miss. DAT is dangerous, but we don't know how much he'll be involved. I guess Jenkins and Avery can really run too, but neither of them our downfield threats at this point.

So I guess I like our YAC potential, but the WR core isn't dangerous in a down the field/catch the ball deep sort of way....which is ok...we have Charles, Davis, DAT, and even Alex who can break off big time runs and i also failed to mention the threat Charles gives us as a WR. I expect more formations with DAvis at tailback with Charles split out.

At TE, if Harris is legit I would cut Fasano if one had to go, but I'd like to see em keep 4.
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