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PostPosted: Fri Oct 18, 2013 8:50 am    Post subject: The Gnat Takes Control (2014 Off Season) Reply with quote

For the rest of the season the Vikings pull off a pretty miserable 2 wins. One Josh Freeman helps with win and another Peterson wins. Freeman shows why he isn't that great a QB and the Vikings realize while he helped them say in a few more games than Cassel did he isn't a long term answer at QB. The Vikings end up with the 3rd Overall pick behind Jaguars 1st over all and Tampa Bay 2nd over all.

Coaching
The coaching staff is dumped. They decide to go the college route, but want to get someone with previous NFL coaching experience.

HC: David Shaw
He's an offensive guy on a team with a terrible defense, but he has NFL experience and worked under Harbaugh at Stanford before doing well at Stanford himself. He seems like a logical choice to move up and not as much of a gimmick coach as some of the other college coaches.

OC: Frank Reich
As the QB coach for the Chargers Philip Rivers has played somewhat better, and that offense has been rejuvenated. They can't steal the Chargers OC, and I'm not sure I want to, but Reich comes in and can work with Shaw and whomever the new QB is.

DC: Louie Cioffi
Not another huge name, but the DB coach for the Browns has worked with Ray Horton for a while and Horton has successfully turned around the Cardinals defense and is doing the same with the Browns defense. Cioffi seems like a good positional coach to try and snag for a DC.

In House FA
Jared Allen - not resigned
Everson Griffen - 4 years 26 mil, 10 mil guaranteed
Josh Freeman - 2 years 8 mil
Matt Cassel - option not picked up
Christian Ponder - released
Marcus Sherels - resigned
AJ Jefferson - not resigned
Letroy Guion - released
Joe Berger - not resigned
John Carlson - Released
Desmond Bishop - not resigned
Chris Cook - 2 year 8.5 mil, 2 mil guaranteed, no guaranteed money year 2
Fred Evans - Resigned
Charlie Johnson - not resigned
Marvin Mitchell - not resigned
Jerome Simpson - not resigned
JaMarcus Webb - 2 years 4 mil
Toby Gerhart - not resigned

Scheme
The Vikings make a transition from a 4-3 to a 3-4 defense. Floyd moves into an UT spot, Greenway moves into a ILB spot in the 3-4 defense and Griffen to an OLB spot. Henderson also stays in a starting ILB spot. Robison also takes over an OLB spot, being less athletic than Griffen he'll play with his hand in the dirt a lot. Think a San Fransisco style 3-4 defense.

The offense stays on a power blocking scheme and Fusco moves from RG to LG. The offense moves to a slightly more vertical passing attack to open up Rudolph and Patterson's game and Jennings settles in as the shorter WR.

Team Needs
After the major house cleaning the Vikings look for, in the off season:
QB
S
CB
LB
NT
OG
DE
TE

Those are the top priorities going into the off season for Spielman.

Free Agency
QB: None signed
RB: LaRod Stephens-Howling 2 year 2.25 mil
WR: None signed
TE: Garrett Graham 2 years 5.5 mil
OT: None signed
OG: None signed
OC: None signed

NT: None signed
DE: Arthur Jones 3 years 26 mil
OLB: None signed
ILB: None signed
CB: None signed
S: TJ Ward 4 years 27 mil

K: None signed
P: None signed

NFL Draft

1st Round: Brent Hundley QB UCLA
Hundley is, in my mind, the clear #2 QB in this draft who could push Bridgewater. Clowney goes the pick before to the Buc's and Freeman isn't the answer, but Hundley can sit for at least part of the year if he doesn't beat out Freeman in camp and learn.

2nd Round: Cyril Richardson OG Baylor
Richardson might push Fusco back to RG or he's an extremely good OG prospect, so could play there and let the weaker Fusco be between two better offensive linemen and have less pressure on him. He comes in as a day 1 starter.

3rd Round: Daniel McCullers NT Tennessee
Big fat man to play in the middle, should be a day one starter and free up the LB's a lot.

Trade The Vikings trade up in the third round leveraging their fourth round pick into an early mid third round pick.
3rd Round: Justin Gilbert CB Oklahoma State
A bigger physical CB, he comes in and is hoped to be a potential starter, if not the Vikings go earlier than a third round CB, but he has time to learn and will push Robinson for the nickle CB spot. (Note, Robinson in nickle does not move into slot this year, but Rhodes does leaving Robinson on the outside where he has performed better)

Trade The Vikings trade down in the fifth round picking up an extra fourth round pick in the 2015 draft.

6th Round: James Gayle, OLB, Virginia Tech

Trade The Vikings move down in the 7th picking up a 7th this and next year.

7th Round: Michael Dyer, RB Louisville

UDFA:
Jeffrey Whitaker, DE, Auburn
Cody Riggs, S, Florida
Bryn Renner, QB, UNC

Depth Chart
QB: Josh Freeman / Brent Hundley / Bryn Renner
RB: Adrian Peterson / Le'Rod Stephens-Howling / Michael Dyer
TE: Kyle Rudolph / Garrett Graham / Rhett Ellison
FB: Jerome Felton
OL: Matt Kalil / Brandon Fusco / Jonathan Sullivan / Cyril Richardson / Phil Loadholt / JaMarcus Webb / Jeff Baca / Travis Bond / Tony Kopog
WR: Greg Jennings / Cordarelle Patterson / Jarius Wright / Joe Webb / Greg Childs

DE: Shariff Floyd / Arthur Jones / Everette Dawkins / Jeffrey Whitake
NT: Daniel McCullers / Fred Evans
OLB: Everson Griffen / Brian Robison / Gerald Hodges / James Gayle
ILB: Chad Greenway / Erin Henderson / Michael Mauti / Audie Cole / Larry Dean
CB: Chris Cook / Xavier Rhodes / Josh Robinson / Justin Gilbert / Marcus Sherels
S: Harrison Smith / T.J. Ward / Mystral Raymond / Andrew Sandejo / Cody Riggs

LS: Cullen Loefler
K: Blair Walsh
P: Jeff Locke
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 18, 2013 10:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

did i miss something or did you leave out the 4th rd pick?
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 18, 2013 10:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

DaCDiggity wrote:
did i miss something or did you leave out the 4th rd pick?


Trading up in the third to get the CB, using the 4th to move up.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 18, 2013 11:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not too shabby Gnat. I would be fine with this
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 18, 2013 7:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would be pretty happy if this is the way things panned out.
But it would be strange Shocked to see the Vikings run a 3-4.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 18, 2013 7:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Solid prospects. I'm not the biggest Hundley fan but I can live with him. Richardson is a blue chip prospect and Gilbert has been very impressive this season.

Not a fan of Shaw though. While not completely his fault, Stanford's defense haven't been very good. With the multitude of defensive prospects they have, the defense should be their strength. Just not convinced he is a good college coach.

Overall, it's solid. I could live with the coaching staff and I'm praying for a defensive scheme switch. Good work.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 19, 2013 7:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't think Freeman would resign if the Vikings are looking to draft a QB.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 19, 2013 7:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Vikefan79 wrote:
I don't think Freeman would resign if the Vikings are looking to draft a QB.

I've been starting to think this as well. The Vikings have enough money coming off the books next year to Franchise Freeman and still possibly draft a QB.

That's if Freeman shows something this year and the vikings still aren't sure they want to commit to him.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 19, 2013 8:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

David Shaw has given a firm statement that he will remain at Stanford and has no desire to coach in the NFL right now.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 19, 2013 9:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

rpmwr19 wrote:
Vikefan79 wrote:
I don't think Freeman would resign if the Vikings are looking to draft a QB.

I've been starting to think this as well. The Vikings have enough money coming off the books next year to Franchise Freeman and still possibly draft a QB.

That's if Freeman shows something this year and the vikings still aren't sure they want to commit to him.


If you're letting Allen walk, franchising Freeman seems to be the best way to go. Sure its expensive and Freeman will be paid as a top 5 QB, the upside is that you have no long-term commitment to him beyond that one year.

It really does seem like Spielman covets Freeman and has since 2009. Now that he got one of his guys he wanted all along, I could see him pushing Freeman on any perspective head coach as the starter for this year.

This team has too many holes on defense to go all in in getting a QB, when this draft doesnt look that strong at the position anyway.

Look at the defensive talent MN passed up on to draft a franchise QB in 2011.
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vikingsrule wrote:
rpmwr19 wrote:
Vikefan79 wrote:
I don't think Freeman would resign if the Vikings are looking to draft a QB.

I've been starting to think this as well. The Vikings have enough money coming off the books next year to Franchise Freeman and still possibly draft a QB.

That's if Freeman shows something this year and the vikings still aren't sure they want to commit to him.


If you're letting Allen walk, franchising Freeman seems to be the best way to go. Sure its expensive and Freeman will be paid as a top 5 QB, the upside is that you have no long-term commitment to him beyond that one year.

It really does seem like Spielman covets Freeman and has since 2009. Now that he got one of his guys he wanted all along, I could see him pushing Freeman on any perspective head coach as the starter for this year.

This team has too many holes on defense to go all in in getting a QB, when this draft doesnt look that strong at the position anyway.

Look at the defensive talent MN passed up on to draft a franchise QB in 2011.


I'm praying Freeman shows to be a good fit in Minnesota and all that extra money and our picks in the draft can be used to sure up other positions. Especially on defense.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 19, 2013 1:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Did I miss something, or do we not address the linebacker position yet again?

Say hello to another bottom-5 defense again if that's the case.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 21, 2013 8:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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David Shaw has given a firm statement that he will remain at Stanford and has no desire to coach in the NFL right now.


So did Harbaugh, if the money is right, they all move.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 21, 2013 10:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Always had a soft spot for the Vikings, but what makes you think the Bucs if picking second wouldn't take a QB with the second pick?
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SappDaddyDance wrote:
Always had a soft spot for the Vikings, but what makes you think the Bucs if picking second wouldn't take a QB with the second pick?


I think that Glennon shows enough promise that they stay with him.
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