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DJ_Fka


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 2:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

love2theOLINE wrote:
Still kills me we took Leinart over Cutler, but I guess it could have been worse and we took Young.


Young would have done ok here, well that is my opinion, though we never had a chance to get him

Cutler was the riskier pick then, Leinart was all everything and safe, who knew?

That is why it is called hindsight.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 15, 2013 5:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

DJ_Fka wrote:
love2theOLINE wrote:
Still kills me we took Leinart over Cutler, but I guess it could have been worse and we took Young.


Young would have done ok here, well that is my opinion, though we never had a chance to get him

Cutler was the riskier pick then, Leinart was all everything and safe, who knew?

That is why it is called hindsight.


Matt played some damn good football in that Monday Night meltdown vs the leagues best defense that year.

If ST's had no imploded that night the storyline would have been about Matt's performance that day.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 15, 2013 1:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

khodder wrote:
DJ_Fka wrote:
love2theOLINE wrote:
Still kills me we took Leinart over Cutler, but I guess it could have been worse and we took Young.


Young would have done ok here, well that is my opinion, though we never had a chance to get him

Cutler was the riskier pick then, Leinart was all everything and safe, who knew?

That is why it is called hindsight.


Matt played some damn good football in that Monday Night meltdown vs the leagues best defense that year.

If ST's had no imploded that night the storyline would have been about Matt's performance that day.


Yeah I had high hopes for Fratty Leinart after his rookie year. I'm not sure what happened between him and Whiz but he was never the same QB after that. I don't think he really had the drive to be great.

But....without him Kurt Warner may have never been our starter and taken us to the Super Bowl...so we can thank Fratty for that.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 15, 2013 2:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The injury he suffered in year two took what marginal arm strength he had and made it worse. He did not have the velocity past that point to have success.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 15, 2013 6:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The injury he suffered in year two took what marginal arm strength he had and made it worse. He did not have the velocity past that point to have success.


He also lost his confidence in the pocket

Granted getting hit like that, and often makes you skittish.

He did play ok elsewhere the few times i saw him

Darn shame
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 16, 2013 12:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Leinart was a joke. Plain and simple. Don't blame it on injuries, he failed because he didn't care about succeeding. I spent years defending the guy, but that was a mistake on my part. My homerism made me ignore the facts.
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Leinart was a joke. Plain and simple. Don't blame it on injuries, he failed because he didn't care about succeeding. I spent years defending the guy, but that was a mistake on my part. My homerism made me ignore the facts.


I'm not going to come out and say that 100% without knowing the guy personally. Yeah he partied, but I know guys who party, but have a huge inner drive to succeed.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 16, 2013 6:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

well to get back on topic.....Hundley had a pretty mediocre game last night.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 16, 2013 10:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

khodder wrote:
shawn wrote:
Leinart was a joke. Plain and simple. Don't blame it on injuries, he failed because he didn't care about succeeding. I spent years defending the guy, but that was a mistake on my part. My homerism made me ignore the facts.


I'm not going to come out and say that 100% without knowing the guy personally. Yeah he partied, but I know guys who party, but have a huge inner drive to succeed.


Nothing to do with him partying...just his personality. He had no passion for the game his past couple years here.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 17, 2013 12:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Saw some Bortles this week

Impressed a little 4 Tds some nice throws, still needs another year for me
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 17, 2013 12:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

DJ_Fka wrote:
Saw some Bortles this week

Impressed a little 4 Tds some nice throws, still needs another year for me


I think I'm sold on Bortles after today. I've been on the fence about him but I'm definitely sold after today
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I think Bortles stays
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I think Bortles stays
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 17, 2013 1:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

AZPSquared wrote:
I think Bortles stays

Based on?....
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IAmPacman wrote:
AZPSquared wrote:
I think Bortles stays

Based on?....


most draft experts dont have him ranked in 2014 class but instead in 2015
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