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Boise&cards Fan


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 02, 2014 3:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If we can get the ucf QB get at 20 and let him sit for a year or two that be great for Arizona.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 02, 2014 6:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Boise&cards Fan wrote:
If we can get the ucf QB get at 20 and let him sit for a year or two that be great for Arizona.


The latest he goes is 8th to the vikings, could go number 1 overall.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 02, 2014 7:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

RandomCampBody wrote:
Boise&cards Fan wrote:
If we can get the ucf QB get at 20 and let him sit for a year or two that be great for Arizona.


The latest he goes is 8th to the vikings, could go number 1 overall.


If he declares I agree I doubt he gets out of the top 10
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 08, 2014 3:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Johnny football just declared - a couple more went back to school than I expected, but still quite a few there.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 13, 2014 3:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Keith fricken Wenning. My goodness. I like this kid.

http://draftbreakdown.com/video/keith-wenning-vs-miami-oh-2013/
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 13, 2014 2:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

khodder wrote:
Keith fricken Wenning. My goodness. I like this kid.

http://draftbreakdown.com/video/keith-wenning-vs-miami-oh-2013/


Wow - yeah, looks like he throws a good ball, gets it out quickly, and makes good decisions for the most part. Played for Ball State - so will be good to see him in the pre-draft stuff going against big school players.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 14, 2014 3:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

SuperFlyTNT wrote:
khodder wrote:
Keith fricken Wenning. My goodness. I like this kid.

http://draftbreakdown.com/video/keith-wenning-vs-miami-oh-2013/


Wow - yeah, looks like he throws a good ball, gets it out quickly, and makes good decisions for the most part. Played for Ball State - so will be good to see him in the pre-draft stuff going against big school players.

Throws an accurate ball from very clean pockets. Under pressure? Who knows...never saw any. If he can perform well in combines/pro days/etc he could likely really elevate his stock. I guess.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 14, 2014 5:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yibbyl wrote:
SuperFlyTNT wrote:
khodder wrote:
Keith fricken Wenning. My goodness. I like this kid.

http://draftbreakdown.com/video/keith-wenning-vs-miami-oh-2013/


Wow - yeah, looks like he throws a good ball, gets it out quickly, and makes good decisions for the most part. Played for Ball State - so will be good to see him in the pre-draft stuff going against big school players.

Throws an accurate ball from very clean pockets. Under pressure? Who knows...never saw any. If he can perform well in combines/pro days/etc he could likely really elevate his stock. I guess.


Under Duress right now is the biggest question. The second for me is the fact he does not make his own checks at the LOS, how well does he understand defenses.

However we would not be drafting this kid to start now. I would spend a late 2-early 3 on this kid. I like him a lot more than most do. I think he is the real deal, but get him in here and just teach him defensive concepts. That is the best place to start with a young QB. Hammer into him all the defensive concepts you see on a consistent basis in the NFL.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 15, 2014 11:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jimmy Graoppolo QB Eastern Illinois

Man is getting some serious love from everyone atm, to be honest never seen him play.

Has size and threw for like 5000 yards last year, be it against lower competition.

We would go Skelton again would we?
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 15, 2014 11:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DJ_Fka wrote:
Jimmy Graoppolo QB Eastern Illinois

Man is getting some serious love from everyone atm, to be honest never seen him play.

Has size and threw for like 5000 yards last year, be it against lower competition.

We would go Skelton again would we?


I doubt it, this isn't whiz, I personally think we don't touch QB unless one falls in our lap. I think Palmer has 1-2 good years left in him (at least with us). I think kiem and others will wait until he see's the QB of the future and he will make a move for him.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 16, 2014 12:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

DJ_Fka wrote:
Jimmy Graoppolo QB Eastern Illinois

Man is getting some serious love from everyone atm, to be honest never seen him play.

Has size and threw for like 5000 yards last year, be it against lower competition.

We would go Skelton again would we?


Good athleticism, good vision, quick release, real leader, can get out of a sticky situation.

But terrible competition, inconsistent footwork (Could definitely be fixed), doesn't always put good velocity on the ball. I think he has small hands

He's a project but I wouldn't be surprised if he ended up being a decent QB. I think about a Tony Romo ceiling and it's realistic if he gets the right coaching
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 16, 2014 1:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Romo ?

Sometimes that isn't a go comparison

I don't brink we need to go QB this year, 2015 or later, ride the Carson bus
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 16, 2014 2:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

AJ McCarron is going to skip the Senior Bowl - definitely a further red flag on a bubble QB at best. I don't want anything to do with a bubble QB who isn't willing to compete on the field in this standard pre-draft activity for Seniors.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 16, 2014 5:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SuperFlyTNT wrote:
AJ McCarron is going to skip the Senior Bowl - definitely a further red flag on a bubble QB at best. I don't want anything to do with a bubble QB who isn't willing to compete on the field in this standard pre-draft activity for Seniors.


Says more about the advice he is getting than the player.

Yes it is really a dumb idea however.

He will be there in the 4th or later now
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 16, 2014 6:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DJ_Fka wrote:
SuperFlyTNT wrote:
AJ McCarron is going to skip the Senior Bowl - definitely a further red flag on a bubble QB at best. I don't want anything to do with a bubble QB who isn't willing to compete on the field in this standard pre-draft activity for Seniors.


Says more about the advice he is getting than the player.

Yes it is really a dumb idea however.

He will be there in the 4th or later now


I know - I really can't stand these agents and just wish the players would stand up to them and say I want to compete and show what I've got. These agents are just screwing up the pre-draft process - before it was only elite level players now mid-level? Geesh, come on Razz .
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