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Missed opportunities since Firing Jon Gruden

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 15, 2013 6:13 pm    Post subject: Missed opportunities since Firing Jon Gruden Reply with quote

2009: late January, Bucs decide to can both Jon Gruden and GM Bruce Allen. They've, together, flopped in rebuilding the team McKay and Dungy built, with multiple draft busts and free agent signings and lack of ability to find a franchise QB.

The big thing that still irks me, is, the Glazers did not process a coaching search. Instead, they promoted a young inexperienced DBs coach in Raheem Morris OVER a guy who well deserved the position. Rich Bassaccia was well more deserving than Morris to be named head coach. Why? The best SPecial Teams coach in the business, motivator, and stand up reputation around the league, could have put together a very good quality coaching staff.

AT GM, Bucs pretty much promoted the 2nd coming of Bruce Allen. Mark Dominik, a salary cap strategist, but was apart of the scouting and personell department evaluating players during these bad drafting years.

So, when the Bucs announced they were rebuilding through the draft, they decide to hand Michael clayton 10 mm guranteed, Derrick Ward a high profiled contract, and trade a 2nd and 5th round pick plus the highest TE contract at the time, to a TE who has come off multiple knee surgeries.

REACHING for a franchise QB with multiple question marks in consistency. Turns out the entire 2009 FA and Draft flopped in Tampa.

After what seemed to be a very good 2010 season, The Glazers and personel spent nothing to try and improve. They were doing nothing but relying on Dom's draft picks. 2010 draft class, guys like Benn, Price, and Lewis were coming off injury ridden/underperforming rookie years. Instead we sign a punter for 20 million over 6 years. Failed to hire a defensive coordinator.

After the 2011 season, we fire Morris and staff immediately. Somehow, Dom survives and is brought in to help lead the extensive coaching search. As other teams are finding there coaches quickly and assembling a quality head coaching staff, we're still interviewing the big named College Coach in Chip Kelly, and Greg Schiano. Now think about it. Why do yuou think Chip Kelly turned down the job? He'd be hired on late with no quality assistants to choose from? Good analogy. Rumor had it he wanted control over personel decisions to bring in his guys. Ok. Agreed. Similar to Caroll to do it his way with a cap guy. Some say he wanted nothing to do with Freeman. Ehh who knows.

In the end, we had no choice but to go for Schiano. Why? In my opinion, no one else wanted the job because it was the week before the Super Bowl with all staff assembled. The only choices were college and guys on the street, as Schiano was un able to get the guys he wanted.

Lose to the Front office and Team Glazer. BIG TIME!

The new schiano order comes in. Ok. Installs an extinct old school offense and a defense that lives off stunts.

Now, to present day, Schaino has burned his bridges here in Tampa. MRSA is every where. And many are questioned about the lack of class our front office and ownership have. It all starts with the Glazers then trickles down. There lack of timeliness, hesitation, and unable to bring in competition to replace a Super Bowl head coach was the start of a downhill spiral that we all should have caught on as a "RED FLAG". I mean, starting in 2009, replacing Gruden with Raheem Morris over a guy who was well deserved and more of a quality and respectable HC candidate that YOU HAD on your team was telling that they had NO CLUE what they were doing. Hiring a GM within the organization who was part of the horrible scouting department under Gruden and Allen wasn't more evident either?

This Franchise may never be relevant until we get new ownership who actually knows what they are doing.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 15, 2013 6:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is where some of you guys forget. The Glazers did that because of the lockout looming. They didnt want to spend big bucks on a coach or players with the possibility of having to pay them.

This year I fully expect us to hire someone QUICKLY so that we can get a good staff together
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 15, 2013 9:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I for one wanted the Glazers out a few year ago, but I can tell you this. The Glazers are spending again and they want to win and we will find out shortly after this season, as I expect us to get a new head coach and make a play at a quartback either through free agency, via trade or in the upcoming draft.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 16, 2013 3:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

We won't know if the Glazers did a coaching search prior to firing Gruden. We needed a complete rebuild.

The Clayton contract was questionable, but we were all optimistic about him as he was in Gruden's dog house and "would break out when he left". Derrick Ward was a bust signing, but you can't fault doing it. Winslow wasn't the worst decision and we got some decent production out of him. It's a bit like franchising Bryant- a good decision at the time which turned out not to be.

The Glazers also took a lot of flack in the Tampa media for spending on man United and not the Bucs. I remember one newspaper story ripped the Glazers for spending over $100m on players. The only thing was, they were talking about the wrong Manchester team. A bit like confusing the Giants and Jets. So there's a lot of mis reporting and conjecture about the Glazers' actions. It doesn't help that they don't often release media statements.

If we sign Zimmer, Lovie or a college guy this year, we will be waiting until mid January or signing a guy off the street- the same as with the Morris promotion. Remember, as an organisation we have had issues interviewing position coaches for a coordinator gig- teams often reject us doing this due to our past conduct under Gruden. That didn't help Schiano last year.
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