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PostPosted: Sat Mar 29, 2014 2:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Richter wrote:
Naq wrote:
Hey Richter, do you have any any numbers on Jeremiah Attaochu?

I have everything but his broad jump.

And I found his broad. Good number, except his short shuttle, which is bad.


As much as I'd love to see him on the Patriots, I don't think he's exactly what the team needs. Definitely weaker in coverage than pass rushing or run stopping.
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Patriots draft contacts from nepatriots.com.

http://www.nepatriotsdraft.com/2014-patriots-draft-contacts

PW – Private Workout
PDW – Pro Day Workout
OV – Official Visit
CI – Combine Interview
U – Unconfirmed Contact (Interview, Workout, Etc…)


Quarterbacks
Blake Bortles, QB Central Florida (U)
Kenny Guiton, QB, Ohio State (PW)
Connor Shaw, QB, South Carolina (PW)

Running Backs
Dri Archer, OW, Kent State (PW)
Marion Grice, RB, Arizona State (PW)
Stephen Houston, RB, Indiana (U)
Storm Johnson, RB, Central Florida (PW)
Ben Malena, RB, Texas A&M (U)
Tre Mason, RB, Auburn (U)
Nikita Whitlock, FB/DT, Wake Forest (PDW)

Wide Receivers
Odell Beckham Jr., WR, LSU (CI)
Kelvin Benjamin, WR, Florida State (PW)
Michael Campanaro, WR, Wake Forest (CI, U)
Brandon Coleman, WR, Rutgers (CI)
Bruce Ellington, WR, South Carolina (PW)
Mike Evans, WR Texas A&M (PW)
Jeremy Gallon, WR, Michigan (PW)
Jeff Godfrey, WR, Central Florida (PW)
Robert Herron, WR, Wyoming (PDW)
Marqise Lee, WR, USC (CI)

Tight Ends
Jace Amaro, TE, Texas Tech (CI)
C.J. Fiedorowicz, TE, Iowa (CI, OV)
Marcel Jensen, TE, Fresno State (U)
Troy Niklas,TE, Notre Dame (CI)
Austin Seferian-Jenkins, TE, Washington (CI)

Offensive Line
Jamal Ellis, OL, Newberry (U)
Trey Hopkins, OG, Texas (PW)
Matt Patchan, OT, Boston College (CI)
Xavier Su’a-Filo, OG, UCLA (CI)

Defensive Line
Aaron Donald, DT, Pittsburgh (CI)
Ego Ferguson, DT, LSU (CI)
Dee Ford, DE, Auburn (PW)
James Gayle, DE, Virginia Tech (U)
Ra’Shede Hageman, DE/DT, Minnesota (CI)
Zach Moore, DE, Concordia (PW)
Kelcy Quarles, DT, South Carolina (PW)

Linebackers
Carl Bradford, LB, Arizona State (PW)
Xavius Byrd, LB, Western Kentucky (U)
Brock Coyle, ILB, Montana (PW)
Jackson Jeffcoat, OLB, Texas (CI)
Kevin Pierre-Louis, OLB, Boston College (CI)
Tyler Starr, OLB, South Dakota (CI)
Jordan Tripp, OLB, Montana (PW)
Uani Unga, ILB, BYU (CI)

Defensive Backs
Walt Aikens, CB, Liberty (PW)
Ha Ha Clinton-Dix, S, Alabama (CI)
Alden Darby, S, Arizona State (PW)
Kevin Fogg, CB, Liberty (PW)
Ken Gilstrap, CB, Middle Tennessee St. (U)
Shaquille Richardson, CB, Arizona (PW)
Brock Vereen, S, Minnesota (CI)

Specialists
Vincenzo D’Amato, PK, California (PW)
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Deadpulse wrote:
mcmurtry86 wrote:
Deadpulse wrote:
mcmurtry86 wrote:
Deadpulse wrote:
I think LB and RB get drafted earlier than we expect


I'm expecting an LB pretty early, RB wouldn't surprise me either but I think it's less likely than LB


I agree. A LB in the third wouldn't surprise me, especially if they trade down to pick up picks (which I think they do, this is a deep draft). I think this running back class has good value in the later rounds.


A LB in the 1st or 2nd wouldn't surprise me TBH


I don't see any value at 29 for LB.


I wouldn't necessarily advocate for him, but a guy like Van Noy would be solid value between 29-40. I'm not sure he has enough positional versatility for the Pats to take him, but he has a lot of the qualities they'd look for.

The LB spot is the weakest on the roster right now. It's the only spot where they have no backup option. And - let's be honest - it's likely that one of Mayo/Collins/Hightower misses some length of time between now and February. Right now, JaGared Davis is the backup plan. Or moving Ninkovich to LB and using Buchanan at DE. Neither of those seem like appealing options (the former is pretty horrifying whereas the latter is merely worrisome).

I think they have to come out of the top 60 picks with a LB or DE (if they want Ninkovich to be the top backup LB). As much as we worry about the interior OL and DT spots, there is more depth there than at LB (despite worse starting talent).

It's always tough to predict what they'll do, but LB and OL seem like the two obvious spots they're going to hit in the draft.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 29, 2014 7:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mcmurtry86 wrote:
Deadpulse wrote:
mcmurtry86 wrote:
Deadpulse wrote:
mcmurtry86 wrote:
Deadpulse wrote:
I think LB and RB get drafted earlier than we expect


I'm expecting an LB pretty early, RB wouldn't surprise me either but I think it's less likely than LB


I agree. A LB in the third wouldn't surprise me, especially if they trade down to pick up picks (which I think they do, this is a deep draft). I think this running back class has good value in the later rounds.


A LB in the 1st or 2nd wouldn't surprise me TBH


I don't see any value at 29 for LB.


I wouldn't necessarily advocate for him, but a guy like Van Noy would be solid value between 29-40. I'm not sure he has enough positional versatility for the Pats to take him, but he has a lot of the qualities they'd look for.

The LB spot is the weakest on the roster right now. It's the only spot where they have no backup option. And - let's be honest - it's likely that one of Mayo/Collins/Hightower misses some length of time between now and February. Right now, JaGared Davis is the backup plan. Or moving Ninkovich to LB and using Buchanan at DE. Neither of those seem like appealing options (the former is pretty horrifying whereas the latter is merely worrisome).

I think they have to come out of the top 60 picks with a LB or DE (if they want Ninkovich to be the top backup LB). As much as we worry about the interior OL and DT spots, there is more depth there than at LB (despite worse starting talent).

It's always tough to predict what they'll do, but LB and OL seem like the two obvious spots they're going to hit in the draft.

I've seen a lot of Van Noy, and I have no interest in him for the Patriots.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 29, 2014 8:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mcmurtry86 wrote:
Deadpulse wrote:
mcmurtry86 wrote:
Deadpulse wrote:
mcmurtry86 wrote:
Deadpulse wrote:
I think LB and RB get drafted earlier than we expect


I'm expecting an LB pretty early, RB wouldn't surprise me either but I think it's less likely than LB


I agree. A LB in the third wouldn't surprise me, especially if they trade down to pick up picks (which I think they do, this is a deep draft). I think this running back class has good value in the later rounds.


A LB in the 1st or 2nd wouldn't surprise me TBH


I don't see any value at 29 for LB.


I wouldn't necessarily advocate for him, but a guy like Van Noy would be solid value between 29-40. I'm not sure he has enough positional versatility for the Pats to take him, but he has a lot of the qualities they'd look for.

The LB spot is the weakest on the roster right now. It's the only spot where they have no backup option. And - let's be honest - it's likely that one of Mayo/Collins/Hightower misses some length of time between now and February. Right now, JaGared Davis is the backup plan. Or moving Ninkovich to LB and using Buchanan at DE. Neither of those seem like appealing options (the former is pretty horrifying whereas the latter is merely worrisome).

I think they have to come out of the top 60 picks with a LB or DE (if they want Ninkovich to be the top backup LB). As much as we worry about the interior OL and DT spots, there is more depth there than at LB (despite worse starting talent).

It's always tough to predict what they'll do, but LB and OL seem like the two obvious spots they're going to hit in the draft.


I see what you are saying about Noy, but I don't think the Patriots value him in that range whether or not that is the general consensus.

I agree with your LB assessment. Tommy Kelly and Vince are both back at DT with two guys with starting experience behind them from filling in last year. Yes they could still use another guy in that stable, but that will probably come in the draft. With Wendall back, and probably Svitek eventually, interior OL has its starters back with a decent back up in Cannon who can play every spot but C where Dan Connolly can step in.

I would argue that TE depth and LB depth are equally in need of a boost. Gronk is coming off that injury and Hooman's usage last year clearly shows they don't trust him as a pass catching option. Knocking Gronk out completely changes the way the offense runs. A viable pass catching TE to back up Gronk is just as big as LB depth IMO.

Come draft day, I would put TE ahead of LB only because the TE class is weaker and top heavy and the LB class has a ton of value in the mid rounds. Granted that could all change based on who gets picked when, but thats how I see things.
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Deadpulse wrote:

Come draft day, I would put TE ahead of LB only because the TE class is weaker and top heavy and the LB class has a ton of value in the mid rounds. Granted that could all change based on who gets picked when, but thats how I see things.


I think they'd be more comfortable with Hoomanawanui than any of the backup LB's they have right now.

As for the TE/LB classes - I don't really see much LB value in terms of potential starters or high-end backups after the 2nd round. I think the entire TE class pretty much sucks and/or will be overdrafted (i.e. a guy like Fiedorowicz is a mediocre prospect I wouldn't touch before the 5th or 6th but is likely to go in the 3rd).

I don't see this as a good TE class at all - which I guess puts me in the minority but Ebron is a total boom or bust type, Amaro is IMO a pretty marginal prospect and an awful 1st round value and Seferian-Jenkins has a number of red flags.

In general, I think this draft class is much weaker than people make it out to be but I understand why every year we (collectively) have to go through the "deepest draft in X years" or "one of the best drafts in recent memory" schtick.

The ILB crop is dreadful and the OLB spot's best guys all strike me as fairly low ceiling guys (like Van Noy). The rest of the OLB crop are either 3-4 edge guys or undersized guys. Some interesting prospects, but not necessarily guys I view as good Patriot fits.

I'm guessing the team has the class evaluated differently given their lack of activity at those 2 spots in veteran FA (though to be fair, the veteran options at those 2 spots were pretty weak)
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mcmurtry86 wrote:
Deadpulse wrote:

Come draft day, I would put TE ahead of LB only because the TE class is weaker and top heavy and the LB class has a ton of value in the mid rounds. Granted that could all change based on who gets picked when, but thats how I see things.


I think they'd be more comfortable with Hoomanawanui than any of the backup LB's they have right now.

As for the TE/LB classes - I don't really see much LB value in terms of potential starters or high-end backups after the 2nd round. I think the entire TE class pretty much sucks and/or will be overdrafted (i.e. a guy like Fiedorowicz is a mediocre prospect I wouldn't touch before the 5th or 6th but is likely to go in the 3rd).

I don't see this as a good TE class at all - which I guess puts me in the minority but Ebron is a total boom or bust type, Amaro is IMO a pretty marginal prospect and an awful 1st round value and Seferian-Jenkins has a number of red flags.

In general, I think this draft class is much weaker than people make it out to be but I understand why every year we (collectively) have to go through the "deepest draft in X years" or "one of the best drafts in recent memory" schtick.

The ILB crop is dreadful and the OLB spot's best guys all strike me as fairly low ceiling guys (like Van Noy). The rest of the OLB crop are either 3-4 edge guys or undersized guys. Some interesting prospects, but not necessarily guys I view as good Patriot fits.

I'm guessing the team has the class evaluated differently given their lack of activity at those 2 spots in veteran FA (though to be fair, the veteran options at those 2 spots were pretty weak)


I think they are comfortable with Hoomanawanui as a blocker, not as a pass catcher. The offense fundamentally changed when Gronk went down, TE was almost never used as a pass option. Tweaking the offense mid-season probably didn't do any of our young receivers any favors. So I guess I value a pass catching TE more than you do, but even with that I wouldn't be upset if LB turned out to be more valued. Again, how the draft goes early could change my outlook quickly. We agree on our assessments of the classes except that I seem to be a tad more lenient on my evaluations than you.
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So I guess I value a pass catching TE more than you do,


Don't get me wrong - I'm a big believer that they need an upgrade at the #2 TE spot in terms of receiving ability. I just think they're OK with Hoomanawanui at that spot and if Gronkowski gets hurt (or isn't ready for opening day), they will compensate with other parts of the offense as they did this past season
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mcmurtry86 wrote:
Deadpulse wrote:
So I guess I value a pass catching TE more than you do,


Don't get me wrong - I'm a big believer that they need an upgrade at the #2 TE spot in terms of receiving ability. I just think they're OK with Hoomanawanui at that spot and if Gronkowski gets hurt (or isn't ready for opening day), they will compensate with other parts of the offense as they did this past season



Hmm, ok, then I suppose our difference in opinion lies in that I'd rather not compensate by changing how the offense operates by basically excluding the TE from the passing game all together. The offense is more multifaceted with a viable receiving option from the TE position.
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m haynes wrote:
Riddler wrote:
With the top 3 LB's set I don't want to use a 1st or 2nd on a LB. Trade out of the first and get a 2nd and a 3rd.

Early-mid 2nd - ASJ or Niklas (Nix if he's available)
2nd - Daquan Jones
Early-mid 3rd - Christian Jones (please)
3rd - Joel Bitonio
4th - Christian Kirksey
comp. 4th - Will Sutton/Kelcey Quarles (3 tech)
6th - Storm Johnson
6th - Gator Hoskins (TE/h back, reminds me of AH)
7th - take a shot on a DE or QB

Something like to that effect.
You have two of my favorite players listed, however I would make some changes that I would like to see.

2nd Weston Richburg--- Best Center in the draft, can play guard.
2nd - Daquan Jones
3rd - Christian Jones (please)
3rd - Joel Bitonio
4th - C.J. Fiedorowicz, TE or Jeremiah Attaochu, DE/OLB
4th - Terrence Brooks - S
6th - Devonta Freeman or Arther Lynch
6th - Storm Johnson
7th- Beau Allen

I'm pretty sure Attaochu is going to be long gone before our 4th round pick, most likely in the 2nd or early 3rd.
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goldfishwars wrote:
Patriots draft contacts from nepatriots.com.

http://www.nepatriotsdraft.com/2014-patriots-draft-contacts

PW – Private Workout
PDW – Pro Day Workout
OV – Official Visit
CI – Combine Interview
U – Unconfirmed Contact (Interview, Workout, Etc…)


Quarterbacks
Blake Bortles, QB Central Florida (U)
Kenny Guiton, QB, Ohio State (PW)
Connor Shaw, QB, South Carolina (PW)

Running Backs
Dri Archer, OW, Kent State (PW)
Marion Grice, RB, Arizona State (PW)
Stephen Houston, RB, Indiana (U)
Storm Johnson, RB, Central Florida (PW)
Ben Malena, RB, Texas A&M (U)
Tre Mason, RB, Auburn (U)
Nikita Whitlock, FB/DT, Wake Forest (PDW)

Wide Receivers
Odell Beckham Jr., WR, LSU (CI)
Kelvin Benjamin, WR, Florida State (PW)
Michael Campanaro, WR, Wake Forest (CI, U)
Brandon Coleman, WR, Rutgers (CI)
Bruce Ellington, WR, South Carolina (PW)
Mike Evans, WR Texas A&M (PW)
Jeremy Gallon, WR, Michigan (PW)
Jeff Godfrey, WR, Central Florida (PW)
Robert Herron, WR, Wyoming (PDW)
Marqise Lee, WR, USC (CI)

Tight Ends
Jace Amaro, TE, Texas Tech (CI)
C.J. Fiedorowicz, TE, Iowa (CI, OV)
Marcel Jensen, TE, Fresno State (U)
Troy Niklas,TE, Notre Dame (CI)
Austin Seferian-Jenkins, TE, Washington (CI)

Offensive Line
Jamal Ellis, OL, Newberry (U)
Trey Hopkins, OG, Texas (PW)
Matt Patchan, OT, Boston College (CI)
Xavier Su’a-Filo, OG, UCLA (CI)

Defensive Line
Aaron Donald, DT, Pittsburgh (CI)
Ego Ferguson, DT, LSU (CI)
Dee Ford, DE, Auburn (PW)
James Gayle, DE, Virginia Tech (U)
Ra’Shede Hageman, DE/DT, Minnesota (CI)
Zach Moore, DE, Concordia (PW)
Kelcy Quarles, DT, South Carolina (PW)

Linebackers
Carl Bradford, LB, Arizona State (PW)
Xavius Byrd, LB, Western Kentucky (U)
Brock Coyle, ILB, Montana (PW)
Jackson Jeffcoat, OLB, Texas (CI)
Kevin Pierre-Louis, OLB, Boston College (CI)
Tyler Starr, OLB, South Dakota (CI)
Jordan Tripp, OLB, Montana (PW)
Uani Unga, ILB, BYU (CI)

Defensive Backs
Walt Aikens, CB, Liberty (PW)
Ha Ha Clinton-Dix, S, Alabama (CI)
Alden Darby, S, Arizona State (PW)
Kevin Fogg, CB, Liberty (PW)
Ken Gilstrap, CB, Middle Tennessee St. (U)
Shaquille Richardson, CB, Arizona (PW)
Brock Vereen, S, Minnesota (CI)

Specialists
Vincenzo D’Amato, PK, California (PW)


Wow thanks for this list; awesome resource. I took a look into Marion Grice and he looks pretty beastly Shocked
Check out his run at 0:45 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UjwYycQEMY4
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Deadpulse wrote:
mcmurtry86 wrote:
Deadpulse wrote:
mcmurtry86 wrote:
Deadpulse wrote:
mcmurtry86 wrote:
Deadpulse wrote:
I think LB and RB get drafted earlier than we expect


I'm expecting an LB pretty early, RB wouldn't surprise me either but I think it's less likely than LB


I agree. A LB in the third wouldn't surprise me, especially if they trade down to pick up picks (which I think they do, this is a deep draft). I think this running back class has good value in the later rounds.


A LB in the 1st or 2nd wouldn't surprise me TBH


I don't see any value at 29 for LB.


I wouldn't necessarily advocate for him, but a guy like Van Noy would be solid value between 29-40. I'm not sure he has enough positional versatility for the Pats to take him, but he has a lot of the qualities they'd look for.

The LB spot is the weakest on the roster right now. It's the only spot where they have no backup option. And - let's be honest - it's likely that one of Mayo/Collins/Hightower misses some length of time between now and February. Right now, JaGared Davis is the backup plan. Or moving Ninkovich to LB and using Buchanan at DE. Neither of those seem like appealing options (the former is pretty horrifying whereas the latter is merely worrisome).

I think they have to come out of the top 60 picks with a LB or DE (if they want Ninkovich to be the top backup LB). As much as we worry about the interior OL and DT spots, there is more depth there than at LB (despite worse starting talent).

It's always tough to predict what they'll do, but LB and OL seem like the two obvious spots they're going to hit in the draft.


I see what you are saying about Noy, but I don't think the Patriots value him in that range whether or not that is the general consensus.

I agree with your LB assessment. Tommy Kelly and Vince are both back at DT with two guys with starting experience behind them from filling in last year. Yes they could still use another guy in that stable, but that will probably come in the draft. With Wendall back, and probably Svitek eventually, interior OL has its starters back with a decent back up in Cannon who can play every spot but C where Dan Connolly can step in.

I would argue that TE depth and LB depth are equally in need of a boost. Gronk is coming off that injury and Hooman's usage last year clearly shows they don't trust him as a pass catching option. Knocking Gronk out completely changes the way the offense runs. A viable pass catching TE to back up Gronk is just as big as LB depth IMO.

Come draft day, I would put TE ahead of LB only because the TE class is weaker and top heavy and the LB class has a ton of value in the mid rounds. Granted that could all change based on who gets picked when, but thats how I see things.
I have to go with the LB and OL. I'll try to keep this simple.

1, Murt points out we have one ( what happen to the Rutgers kid) backup. Hard to learn position. Need a whole mini camp to learn.
2. TE, Yes its a need however we still one of the top offensive without one.
3. DL if we have to, we do the same thing as last year. Something we can't do with LBs
4. OL hard to learn position, need a whole camp.

It all comes down to what position (Guy) we can grab off the street and throw in there and still win. Thats why IMO LB and OL is most important in this draft. They need time to learn the system.

I have been looking at DE/DT. Vince signs, now I have to change focus. Who are the LB to look at? Can Ford (listed as PW) play LB?

PS We have freaking Darrelle Revis!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Now that Wilfork and Kelly are back and healthy, I think that OL has to be the primary need. Therefore, my strategy would probably be to trade back into the top of the second round to pick up another 3rd. Then Id do:

2a) Weston Richburg C: Solves our interior line woes
2b) DaQuan Jones DT: Big boy that can really push the line. Solves depth issue
3a) Ahamad Dixon SS: Great tackler that can really move
3b) Joe Don Duncan TE: Great measurables and soft hands, good backup
4) Telvin Smith OLB: Insanely fast OLB, albeit undersized, flies all over the field. Good sub for passing downs
6a) Ben Gardner DE: Played great until he got hurt. Would be awesome rotational DE
6b) Gabe Ikard OG: More OL insurance
7) AJ Tarpley ILB: More depth at LB

Bam. Addressed everything.
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BigTimePatsFan9 wrote:
Now that Wilfork and Kelly are back and healthy, I think that OL has to be the primary need. Therefore, my strategy would probably be to trade back into the top of the second round to pick up another 3rd. Then Id do:

2a) Weston Richburg C: Solves our interior line woes
2b) DaQuan Jones DT: Big boy that can really push the line. Solves depth issue
3a) Ahamad Dixon SS: Great tackler that can really move
3b) Joe Don Duncan TE: Great measurables and soft hands, good backup
4) Telvin Smith OLB: Insanely fast OLB, albeit undersized, flies all over the field. Good sub for passing downs
6a) Ben Gardner DE: Played great until he got hurt. Would be awesome rotational DE
6b) Gabe Ikard OG: More OL insurance
7) AJ Tarpley ILB: More depth at LB

Bam. Addressed everything.


I like Joe Duncan; nice list.
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4) Telvin Smith OLB: Insanely fast OLB, albeit undersized, flies all over the field. Good sub for passing downs


Smith is 218 lbs and ran a 4.52 40. "Undersized" is a huge understatement and he's not actually that fast. He needs to put on 20-25 lbs and at that point is likely to slow down. He's 2 years away from being a useful NFL player (if he ever becomes one).

He has a reputation for a great character and locker room type guy, and his overall skill set is solid. But his weight is a huge problem and he didn't test out as fast as a lot of people were thinking he would.

I don't really see how he fits in New England as a LB except as a practice squad guy until he bulks up.
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