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Biggsam49


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PostPosted: Sun Oct 06, 2013 5:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

GmenSeattle wrote:
Acgott wrote:
Biggsam49 wrote:
xPrISM wrote:
Biggsam49 wrote:
So.

We go 2-14. We get the number 1 or 2 pick.

Do we fire Coughlin and draft a QB?


Neither? They aren't the problem.


Colts picked first. Peyton wasn't the problem. Still got replaced.

And Eli deserves a large portion of the blame.

Peyton had a MAJOR neck injury... No one knew if he would play again


Good thing the Colts didn't keep him too. He's clearly been a bad signing by the Broncos.


We're looking at the Colt's decision, not the Broncos.

Get 3(?) more years of an elite QB with a terrible surrounding team or get the young franchise QB? If they had the chance to make that decision again, they absolutely do it again.

That's sort of the dilemma we're in. In this hypothetical situation where we get a top pick, we're going through a coaching change. Our team lacks talent. How many years of good Eli do we have? I think 4 is reasonable (if he hasn't already started a decline.) How many years will be wasted rebuilding and implementing a new scheme around him? At least 2?

If we believe Bridgewater or whoever, is a franchise guy, I think it's the right move to draft him. Doesn't mean get rid of Eli immediately, but his days would be numbered.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 06, 2013 5:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are people still complaining about Gilbride? We cried for more screens/slants. It happened. Slants worked. Screens we proved we can't run.

He's calling a gameplan with no weapon at TEs, a should-be FA as the only HB. The oline is historically bad in both aspects, Jacobs fumbled and is missing blocks, and the WRs are dropping things down the field (Nicks, Cruz, and Randle all guilty.) Both Nicks and Cruz gave up interceptions cause they didn't fight for the ball. Eli was drunk again.

We lack talent and don't execute. Gilbride didn't call a bad game.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 06, 2013 5:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Are people still complaining about Gilbride? We cried for more screens/slants. It happened. Slants worked. Screens we proved we can't run.

He's calling a gameplan with no weapon at TEs, a should-be FA as the only HB. The oline is historically bad in both aspects, Jacobs fumbled and is missing blocks, and the WRs are dropping things down the field (Nicks, Cruz, and Randle all guilty.) Both Nicks and Cruz gave up interceptions cause they didn't fight for the ball. Eli was drunk again.

We lack talent and don't execute. Gilbride didn't call a bad game.


It worked and we still went for the big play every other snap. Yes we did miss opportunities to catch more deep passes but the defenders were always in place.

Gilbride is part of the problem no doubt and a huge part of it.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 06, 2013 5:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Coughlin will be gone. Eli isn't going anywhere, and nor should he. We have the worst running game in the league, worst defense in the league. Eli is trying to make things happen behind an offensive line that has given up the most sacks in the league thus far. He's shown what he can do when he has a halfway decent team around him. This team is not anywhere near halfway decent.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 06, 2013 6:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i was at the game and had the pleasure of SITTING BY ALL EAGLES FANS..almost got tossed on 2 different occasions. I got to see 3 drunk girls get arrested by undercover cops in eagles jerseys....go figure Laughing Laughing


highlight of my game experience today
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 06, 2013 7:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gmen wrote:
Coughlin will be gone. Eli isn't going anywhere, and nor should he. We have the worst running game in the league, worst defense in the league. Eli is trying to make things happen behind an offensive line that has given up the most sacks in the league thus far. He's shown what he can do when he has a halfway decent team around him. This team is not anywhere near halfway decent.


All of this. I have doubts whether Coughlin will be gone, but he certainly should be. He's done an absolutely horrible job this year and has been outcoached in nearly every game.

I am certain that Gilbride and Fewell are history, though.
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Wow. You really should back off of the Eli love. If anything, Eli is a negative impact.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 06, 2013 7:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Biggsam49 wrote:
GmenSeattle wrote:
Acgott wrote:
Biggsam49 wrote:
xPrISM wrote:
Biggsam49 wrote:
So.

We go 2-14. We get the number 1 or 2 pick.

Do we fire Coughlin and draft a QB?


Neither? They aren't the problem.


Colts picked first. Peyton wasn't the problem. Still got replaced.

And Eli deserves a large portion of the blame.

Peyton had a MAJOR neck injury... No one knew if he would play again


Good thing the Colts didn't keep him too. He's clearly been a bad signing by the Broncos.


We're looking at the Colt's decision, not the Broncos.

Get 3(?) more years of an elite QB with a terrible surrounding team or get the young franchise QB? If they had the chance to make that decision again, they absolutely do it again.

That's sort of the dilemma we're in. In this hypothetical situation where we get a top pick, we're going through a coaching change. Our team lacks talent. How many years of good Eli do we have? I think 4 is reasonable (if he hasn't already started a decline.) How many years will be wasted rebuilding and implementing a new scheme around him? At least 2?

If we believe Bridgewater or whoever, is a franchise guy, I think it's the right move to draft him. Doesn't mean get rid of Eli immediately, but his days would be numbered.


Why do you think he'll play for just 3 more years? Peyton is 5 years older and still doing just fine.

Anyway. If I knew how to fix football teams I'd have a job doing it I'm sure:P In stead I'm online posting on a forum Razz
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 06, 2013 7:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mlv wrote:
Gmen wrote:
Coughlin will be gone. Eli isn't going anywhere, and nor should he. We have the worst running game in the league, worst defense in the league. Eli is trying to make things happen behind an offensive line that has given up the most sacks in the league thus far. He's shown what he can do when he has a halfway decent team around him. This team is not anywhere near halfway decent.


All of this. I have doubts whether Coughlin will be gone, but he certainly should be. He's done an absolutely horrible job this year and has been outcoached in nearly every game.

I am certain that Gilbride and Fewell are history, though.


I agree. Coughlin will likely be back and allowed to hire a new DC and OC. Our OL coach and ST should go to. It's some execution but it is schemes and playcalling. Not to excuse the players for poor execution but the schemes suck.

AND IN OTHER NEWS...ROMO CHOKES AGAIN Laughing
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I will never defend Romo again. I'm done. We may only have a shot at the playoffs or what have you because of him, but he will NEVER put us over the hump.
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To rub salt in the wounds I had to serve Jason avant ice cream again tonight Sad I wanted to say something but I didn't.
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But why not maintain that dominance? You guys were there...

Let me give you my personal opinion, on what I think has happened.
It all started with the release of the coke machine in Brandon Jacobs.
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First payton won it all then Eli The Very Next Year then Eli Again but In Payton's House and Now It's Gonna Be Payton In But Eli's House , Talk About Your Serious#PoeticJustice ....
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 07, 2013 8:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Biggsam49 wrote:
Are people still complaining about Gilbride? We cried for more screens/slants. It happened. Slants worked. Screens we proved we can't run.

He's calling a gameplan with no weapon at TEs, a should-be FA as the only HB. The oline is historically bad in both aspects, Jacobs fumbled and is missing blocks, and the WRs are dropping things down the field (Nicks, Cruz, and Randle all guilty.) Both Nicks and Cruz gave up interceptions cause they didn't fight for the ball. Eli was drunk again.

We lack talent and don't execute. Gilbride didn't call a bad game.


You may be the lone single Giants fan that believes Killdrive isn't a huge part of the problem...
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 07, 2013 9:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

minutemancl wrote:
To rub salt in the wounds I had to serve Jason avant ice cream again tonight Sad I wanted to say something but I didn't.


Oh come on!!!!

Prime opportunity man Laughing
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 07, 2013 8:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If all of his coordinators stink and should be fired, including the ST coordinator, why keep Coughlin around? He's the oldest coach in the league. Hard for me to imagine him having another run with a completely new coaching staff around him. It's time to bring in a new HC, a new system, and hope we can quickly rebuild around Eli. I wouldn't mind a guy like O'brien from Penn State or Shaw from Stanford.
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Gmen wrote:
If all of his coordinators stink and should be fired, including the ST coordinator, why keep Coughlin around? He's the oldest coach in the league. Hard for me to imagine him having another run with a completely new coaching staff around him. It's time to bring in a new HC, a new system, and hope we can quickly rebuild around Eli. I wouldn't mind a guy like O'brien from Penn State or Shaw from Stanford.
can we start preaching this to the world? Shaw for nyg head coach??


I've seen rumors start on this board that have came true. This is the only one I care about
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Gmen wrote:
If all of his coordinators stink and should be fired, including the ST coordinator, why keep Coughlin around? He's the oldest coach in the league. Hard for me to imagine him having another run with a completely new coaching staff around him. It's time to bring in a new HC, a new system, and hope we can quickly rebuild around Eli. I wouldn't mind a guy like O'brien from Penn State or Shaw from Stanford.


a guy i love is Mike Zimmer.
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