Discuss football with over 60,000 fans. Free Membership. Join now!

 FAQFAQ  RegisterRegister   ProfileProfile   Log in to check your private messagesLog in to check your private messages   Log inLog in 

FootballsFuture.com Forum Index
FootballsFuture.com Home

Bridgewater or Clowney?
Goto page Previous  1, 2, 3 ... 11, 12, 13, 14  Next
 
Post new topic   Reply to topic    FootballsFuture.com Forum Index -> Philadelphia Eagles
View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
marky_b27


Joined: 16 Mar 2007
Posts: 21788
Location: Nottingham, England
PostPosted: Sat Oct 05, 2013 4:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's a hypothetical situation for you.

Lets say we pick 8th.

Bridgewater is still sitting there after the first 3 picks (lets say for example Clowney, Barr and Hundley go top 3).

The team picking 4th don't need a QB, but the team picking 5th does. If we could get the 4th overall pick for our 1st and 2nd (or our 1st, 3rd and 4th), would you do it?
_________________



RainbowCarebear wrote:
Marky > Foles
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
ninjapirate


Joined: 14 Jan 2005
Posts: 34378
Location: Vegas
PostPosted: Sat Oct 05, 2013 4:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

marky_b27 wrote:
Here's a hypothetical situation for you.

Lets say we pick 8th.

Bridgewater is still sitting there after the first 3 picks (lets say for example Clowney, Barr and Hundley go top 3).

The team picking 4th don't need a QB, but the team picking 5th does. If we could get the 4th overall pick for our 1st and 2nd (or our 1st, 3rd and 4th), would you do it?


if he is your guy then no cost is high enough
_________________


RainbowCarebear wrote:
Small d = pastry
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message AIM Address
Phire


Moderator
Joined: 12 Jan 2007
Posts: 50057
Location: #FSU #championchip #2012BirdsHoF #2012GoldStnd #YAKtoseIntolerant #TrollyRangers #Danes #CAVALRY
PostPosted: Sat Oct 05, 2013 4:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

marky_b27 wrote:
Here's a hypothetical situation for you.

Lets say we pick 8th.

Bridgewater is still sitting there after the first 3 picks (lets say for example Clowney, Barr and Hundley go top 3).

The team picking 4th don't need a QB, but the team picking 5th does. If we could get the 4th overall pick for our 1st and 2nd (or our 1st, 3rd and 4th), would you do it?

I would do either. That's pretty damn cheap compared to the RG3 and Julio Jones trades which were for #2 and #6 respectively.
_________________
theuntouchable wrote:
Think about this phire. I am the real chow.

RainbowCarebear wrote:
Only for the quick and lucky.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
marky_b27


Joined: 16 Mar 2007
Posts: 21788
Location: Nottingham, England
PostPosted: Sat Oct 05, 2013 4:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Phire wrote:
marky_b27 wrote:
Here's a hypothetical situation for you.

Lets say we pick 8th.

Bridgewater is still sitting there after the first 3 picks (lets say for example Clowney, Barr and Hundley go top 3).

The team picking 4th don't need a QB, but the team picking 5th does. If we could get the 4th overall pick for our 1st and 2nd (or our 1st, 3rd and 4th), would you do it?

I would do either. That's pretty damn cheap compared to the RG3 and Julio Jones trades which were for #2 and #6 respectively.


Got to remember that the Jones trade was coming up from the mid 20s and the RGIII trade was a steal for St Louis.
_________________



RainbowCarebear wrote:
Marky > Foles
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
marky_b27


Joined: 16 Mar 2007
Posts: 21788
Location: Nottingham, England
PostPosted: Sat Oct 05, 2013 4:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ninjapirate wrote:
marky_b27 wrote:
Here's a hypothetical situation for you.

Lets say we pick 8th.

Bridgewater is still sitting there after the first 3 picks (lets say for example Clowney, Barr and Hundley go top 3).

The team picking 4th don't need a QB, but the team picking 5th does. If we could get the 4th overall pick for our 1st and 2nd (or our 1st, 3rd and 4th), would you do it?


if he is your guy then no cost is high enough


I wouldn't say no cost is high enough. There would be a limit of how much you would give up, but even if we had to give up 1st, 2nd and 4th, I'd still do it.
_________________



RainbowCarebear wrote:
Marky > Foles
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Phire


Moderator
Joined: 12 Jan 2007
Posts: 50057
Location: #FSU #championchip #2012BirdsHoF #2012GoldStnd #YAKtoseIntolerant #TrollyRangers #Danes #CAVALRY
PostPosted: Sat Oct 05, 2013 4:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

marky_b27 wrote:
Phire wrote:
marky_b27 wrote:
Here's a hypothetical situation for you.

Lets say we pick 8th.

Bridgewater is still sitting there after the first 3 picks (lets say for example Clowney, Barr and Hundley go top 3).

The team picking 4th don't need a QB, but the team picking 5th does. If we could get the 4th overall pick for our 1st and 2nd (or our 1st, 3rd and 4th), would you do it?

I would do either. That's pretty damn cheap compared to the RG3 and Julio Jones trades which were for #2 and #6 respectively.


Got to remember that the Jones trade was coming up from the mid 20s and the RGIII trade was a steal for St Louis.

I'm trying to recall a more analogous trade but my brain is not operating very well today. I have a feeling teams would want a future selection, though.
_________________
theuntouchable wrote:
Think about this phire. I am the real chow.

RainbowCarebear wrote:
Only for the quick and lucky.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Dr. Philly


Joined: 02 Nov 2009
Posts: 43876
PostPosted: Sat Oct 05, 2013 5:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As long as it isn't Ricky Williams or Herschel Walker trade I'm good
_________________


simonwayne wrote:
LeBron has done for the NBA what Teen Mom has done for teenage pregnancies


#JDI
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
marky_b27


Joined: 16 Mar 2007
Posts: 21788
Location: Nottingham, England
PostPosted: Sat Oct 05, 2013 5:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Phire wrote:
marky_b27 wrote:
Phire wrote:
marky_b27 wrote:
Here's a hypothetical situation for you.

Lets say we pick 8th.

Bridgewater is still sitting there after the first 3 picks (lets say for example Clowney, Barr and Hundley go top 3).

The team picking 4th don't need a QB, but the team picking 5th does. If we could get the 4th overall pick for our 1st and 2nd (or our 1st, 3rd and 4th), would you do it?

I would do either. That's pretty damn cheap compared to the RG3 and Julio Jones trades which were for #2 and #6 respectively.


Got to remember that the Jones trade was coming up from the mid 20s and the RGIII trade was a steal for St Louis.

I'm trying to recall a more analogous trade but my brain is not operating very well today. I have a feeling teams would want a future selection, though.


In 2012, Jacksonville went from 7 to 5 and gave up a 4th round pick. Dallas also went from 14 to 6 with a 2nd round pick.
_________________



RainbowCarebear wrote:
Marky > Foles
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
BBIB


Joined: 20 Jan 2008
Posts: 8771
PostPosted: Sat Oct 05, 2013 5:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It would be absolutely absurd for the Eagles to give up draft picks (which they clearly need) to draft a QB.

Have you all been watching the 1st quarter of the season?

Vick has not played at an A+++ level but he's also not at an F either

Your defense is on pace to be HISTORICALLY bad. Your entire draft and free agency should be focused on defense.

Maybe you focus on re-signing Jeremy Maclin or getting his replacement if you can't come to terms, but that's about it.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
BBIB


Joined: 20 Jan 2008
Posts: 8771
PostPosted: Sat Oct 05, 2013 5:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ninjapirate wrote:


We might have already won more games than jags will.


The way Cleveland has shown a pulse since the Trent Richardson trade, that is completely possible. I don't see a win on their schedule. I mean they could still beat Derrick Anderson and the Browns, but they won't be favored in that game either.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
babyatemydingo


Joined: 15 Jan 2007
Posts: 6877
Location: South Jersey
PostPosted: Sat Oct 05, 2013 5:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BBIB wrote:
It would be absolutely absurd for the Eagles to give up draft picks (which they clearly need) to draft a QB.

Have you all been watching the 1st quarter of the season?

Vick has not played at an A+++ level but he's also not at an F either

Your defense is on pace to be HISTORICALLY bad. Your entire draft and free agency should be focused on defense.

Maybe you focus on re-signing Jeremy Maclin or getting his replacement if you can't come to terms, but that's about it.


But, how many more years does Vick have left in him?
And when will the Eagles sniff a pick this high again?

If they trade up for a QB in 2014 that gives them time to build around him.
So, the rebuilding isn't complete after two drafts. Big deal.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Phire


Moderator
Joined: 12 Jan 2007
Posts: 50057
Location: #FSU #championchip #2012BirdsHoF #2012GoldStnd #YAKtoseIntolerant #TrollyRangers #Danes #CAVALRY
PostPosted: Sat Oct 05, 2013 5:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BBIB wrote:
It would be absolutely absurd for the Eagles to give up draft picks (which they clearly need) to draft a QB.

Have you all been watching the 1st quarter of the season?

Vick has not played at an A+++ level but he's also not at an F either

Your defense is on pace to be HISTORICALLY bad. Your entire draft and free agency should be focused on defense.

Maybe you focus on re-signing Jeremy Maclin or getting his replacement if you can't come to terms, but that's about it.

It's all about the future man. I've actually liked Vick this year and I've been harsh on him. But the reality is he's on the wrong side of time.
_________________
theuntouchable wrote:
Think about this phire. I am the real chow.

RainbowCarebear wrote:
Only for the quick and lucky.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
BBIB


Joined: 20 Jan 2008
Posts: 8771
PostPosted: Sat Oct 05, 2013 5:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

babyatemydingo wrote:


But, how many more years does Vick have left in him?
And when will the Eagles sniff a pick this high again?

If they trade up for a QB in 2014 that gives them time to build around him.
So, the rebuilding isn't complete after two drafts. Big deal.


Phire wrote:

It's all about the future man. I've actually liked Vick this year and I've been harsh on him. But the reality is he's on the wrong side of time.


No doubt that Vick isn't the answer 5+ years from now. I think it depends on how the season plays out. That will determine your draft status and who is available at QB. If no absolute stud is available, then if Chip Kelly's system is as legit as it has shown it can be, you will be able to afford to wait another year to draft a QB.

Let's say Vick has 2 years left after this one. I personally think he could have 4 more, but for sake of argument let's just at least say he could have 2 more after this one. He would be 35, and even at 35 you figure Vick if he takes care of his body like to his credit he has been doing for the most part the first 1/4 of the season, he could still be as athletic as most QBs at 25. Well it's by then if you don't spend a high pick on QB, and you focus on defense in draft and FA, the pieces could be in place for a young QB to step in and take over on a legitimate contender.

And all that could take place while the Eagles take even a shot at contending over the next 1-2 years with improved defenses before the young QB of the future takes over
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
eaglesfan10


Joined: 30 Jan 2009
Posts: 10014
PostPosted: Sat Oct 05, 2013 5:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dude everyone here is done with Vick. We're sick and tired of saying "we'll see how he does the rest of the year" etc. We want a young high pick at QB.
_________________
Phire wrote:
Cooper will fight every Raider there.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Meco


Joined: 30 Aug 2012
Posts: 2592
Location: Las Vegas
PostPosted: Sat Oct 05, 2013 5:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Vick is not even playing well this season, he only looks decent because of Chip's system. He's still holding the ball too long, he's taking too many sacks and he's still making dumb throws that luckily for us haven't been picked off. He's not throwing the ball against man coverage unless it's to DeSean.
_________________
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Display posts from previous:   

Post new topic   Reply to topic    FootballsFuture.com Forum Index -> Philadelphia Eagles All times are GMT - 4 Hours
Goto page Previous  1, 2, 3 ... 11, 12, 13, 14  Next
Page 12 of 14

 
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum




Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2005 phpBB Group