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PostPosted: Mon Sep 16, 2013 4:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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#overreaction

So 4+ years of seeing the same mistakes made leading to wanting a change of coaches is an overreaction? How long should we wait, a decade?

Most coaches get 3 years. Schwartz & Co got the benefit of the doubt because he took over an overly egregious task. But we are now on the 5th year. It is time for changes to be seen. And although obviously there have been improvements over 0-16, we really had nowhere to go but up. If we are to take a positive step forward from here it seems clear to me that another coach is going to have to do it.


That is just it. When Best went down the offense suffered because it lacked another scat type back. Bush goes down and it suffers. They should know they need another scat type back as insurance. I am not saying they have to be Best/Bush caliber but once he went down the offense stalled. Either that or have a game plan if they do go down.

Well, I can't really agree/disagree there. It kind of appears you are right. But the bottom line is your entire offense or defense can't be entirely dependent on a single player. Especially not one like a scat back when the position is historically prone to injuries.



Well that was my point about having plan if they do go down. Team lacks any backup plan. It seems they are not built to be power team yet LeShoure still here. Bell is power too but he can catch. Why not give Reddick some looks when offense stalled?
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You can't blame Burleson for running the route he was supposed to run for the play that was called. That was all on the coaching staff.

Trading Willie young isn't a major shake up, and he's more valuable to the Lions than he would be in a trade. What do you honestly expect to get for him?

Do the Lions need a new OC? They probably need an entirely new coaching staff, and Mayhew could probably go with them. But, now isn't the time to do that. The Lions don't benefit from firing Linehan now and filling him with a short term solution only to replace that guy at the end of the season. It would turn a bad situation into a worse situation and make this season a huge mess.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 16, 2013 8:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Frustrating watching exciting D like Pit

Always scheming and moving. Aggressive.

Detroit has lacked any deception on D
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 16, 2013 8:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Frustrating watching exciting D like Pit

Always scheming and moving. Aggressive.

Detroit has lacked any deception on D


Heard the announcers in yesterday's game say something interesting that relates to this point. They said that one of our coaches (Schwartz or Cunningham I don't remember) said that our front four don't like it when we blitz because it gives them less room to use their athleticism.
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Frustrating watching exciting D like Pit

Always scheming and moving. Aggressive.

Detroit has lacked any deception on D


Heard the announcers in yesterday's game say something interesting that relates to this point. They said that one of our coaches (Schwartz or Cunningham I don't remember) said that our front four don't like it when we blitz because it gives them less room to use their athleticism.


Only one was should have say is Suh. DE get no say they haven't proved crap
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Frustrating watching exciting D like Pit

Always scheming and moving. Aggressive.

Detroit has lacked any deception on D


Heard the announcers in yesterday's game say something interesting that relates to this point. They said that one of our coaches (Schwartz or Cunningham I don't remember) said that our front four don't like it when we blitz because it gives them less room to use their athleticism.


Only one was should have say is Suh. DE get no say they haven't proved crap



Fairley?
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 16, 2013 9:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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detfan782004 wrote:
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Frustrating watching exciting D like Pit

Always scheming and moving. Aggressive.

Detroit has lacked any deception on D


Heard the announcers in yesterday's game say something interesting that relates to this point. They said that one of our coaches (Schwartz or Cunningham I don't remember) said that our front four don't like it when we blitz because it gives them less room to use their athleticism.


Only one was should have say is Suh. DE get no say they haven't proved crap



Fairley?


Maybe if he proves he can stay healthy. Point is the front four as a unit not good enough to dictate what DC does.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 16, 2013 10:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

But maybe the DC is bad enough we should allow the front 4 dictate what the DC does Laughing
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Nnivolcm wrote:
detfan782004 wrote:
Nnivolcm wrote:
detfan782004 wrote:
Frustrating watching exciting D like Pit

Always scheming and moving. Aggressive.

Detroit has lacked any deception on D


Heard the announcers in yesterday's game say something interesting that relates to this point. They said that one of our coaches (Schwartz or Cunningham I don't remember) said that our front four don't like it when we blitz because it gives them less room to use their athleticism.


Only one was should have say is Suh. DE get no say they haven't proved crap



Fairley?


Maybe if he proves he can stay healthy. Point is the front four as a unit not good enough to dictate what DC does.


Either way, I wasn't saying I thought it was the right game plan, but I did find it interesting.
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But maybe the DC is bad enough we should allow the front 4 dictate what the DC does Laughing



Players telling DC what to do. Awesome
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If we need a game-winning drive, I'd play Shaun Hill. Stafford has continually shown over the last 2 years he can't win those close games.
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If we need a game-winning drive, I'd play Shaun Hill. Stafford has continually shown over the last 2 years he can't win those close games.

... what?
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If we need a game-winning drive, I'd play Shaun Hill. Stafford has continually shown over the last 2 years he can't win those close games.

... what?
hell if I no
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If we need a game-winning drive, I'd play Shaun Hill. Stafford has continually shown over the last 2 years he can't win those close games.

... what?
hell if I no

Stafford has 8 of what qualifies as "comeback victories" in his career. That makes me feel very comfortable about having him in the last minute of a game. I would even go as far as to say it is a strong point of his, very above average at a minimum. Now if someone would want to throw Hill in the first quarter, I couldn't disagree wholly. Stafford does seem to start slow, but the flip to that is he might not get into the flow and might not be as good in the second half as he usually is without that 1st quarter to stall in.
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How many of those games were last year? Shocked
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