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PostPosted: Tue Sep 17, 2013 10:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

apollo14000 wrote:
khodder wrote:
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Bethel- Star ST player in the 6th round who beat out our 3rd round CB? I'll take it.


The pair were never really in a battle though. Fleming is a guy who was going to make the team based on defensive play. Bethel is a guy who would not be in the NFL if not for his top notch ST's play.


I'm pretty sure Bethel has been ahead of Fleming on the depth chart (at CB) since spring/early summer which leads me to believe that he was outperforming him at corner. Remember when Arians had two practices at once? Fleming never made it to the "better field" while Bethel did. If Fleming was performing better at CB than Bethel than he would have played ahead of him at some point. He never did this offseason.


He did though. For the entire preseason Fleming was on the field with the 2nd unit at corner. Bethel only played sparingly at corner with the 2nd team. He was listed behind Fleming all preseason on the DC except the error that left Jamell of the DC altoghther.

2nd and 3rd PS games Cason and Fleming were the 2nd team outside corners.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 17, 2013 10:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

khodder wrote:
apollo14000 wrote:
khodder wrote:
apollo14000 wrote:
Bethel- Star ST player in the 6th round who beat out our 3rd round CB? I'll take it.


The pair were never really in a battle though. Fleming is a guy who was going to make the team based on defensive play. Bethel is a guy who would not be in the NFL if not for his top notch ST's play.


I'm pretty sure Bethel has been ahead of Fleming on the depth chart (at CB) since spring/early summer which leads me to believe that he was outperforming him at corner. Remember when Arians had two practices at once? Fleming never made it to the "better field" while Bethel did. If Fleming was performing better at CB than Bethel than he would have played ahead of him at some point. He never did this offseason.


He did though. For the entire preseason Fleming was on the field with the 2nd unit at corner. Bethel only played sparingly at corner with the 2nd team. He was listed behind Fleming all preseason on the DC except the error that left Jamell of the DC altoghther.

2nd and 3rd PS games Cason and Fleming were the 2nd team outside corners.


I thought I had that right but I'll trust you on that. That's odd though since I heard way more praise for Bethel this offseason than Fleming. Seriously Fleming was in the conversation for least talked about player all offseason.
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