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PostPosted: Fri Sep 13, 2013 7:39 pm    Post subject: 2014 Draft Discussion Reply with quote

We can use this thread to discuss prospects we may want to draft next year.

I either want Kyle Van Noy, OLB, BYU (even if we have to trade up), or dependent on how Hawthorne plays, Anthony Johnson, ILB, Tennesee to start at WILL.

We don't have many needs aside from depth at certain places, so it'd only make sense to go pass rusher for now. But someone we think is good may not play good this year and we may need someone then.

I think Rafeal Bush can start at "FS", CB may end up being a small need, we need some more OLBs, Van Noy would certainly help.

I just really don't see many needs on this team aside from OLB, even if Galette, Parys, and Tez all play well.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 13, 2013 7:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

LT is absolutely our biggest need.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 13, 2013 8:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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LT is absolutely our biggest need.


Not if CSP likes what he sees of Armstead and decides to roll with him as starter next season. Otherwise I'd agree with you.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 13, 2013 8:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OLB, CB and LT(if Brown disappoints) are obvious ones. But here is a scenario.

Lets say a certain TE Austin Seferian-Jenkins drops to our pick, do we take him?

We've seen what Hernandez and Gronk can do given that one isn't arrested and the other isn't injured, but imagine Graham and Seferian-Jenkins together. Add in Sproles/Colston/Moore to the equation and it's an absolute match up nightmare. From what I understand, ASJ is also advanced for a blocker. So it's not like we're taking a completely luxury pick. It'd make Brees' life much much easier.

Thoughts?
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 13, 2013 9:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Canadian Saint wrote:
OLB, CB and LT(if Brown disappoints) are obvious ones. But here is a scenario.

Lets say a certain TE Austin Seferian-Jenkins drops to our pick, do we take him?

We've seen what Hernandez and Gronk can do given that one isn't arrested and the other isn't injured, but imagine Graham and Seferian-Jenkins together. Add in Sproles/Colston/Moore to the equation and it's an absolute match up nightmare. From what I understand, ASJ is also advanced for a blocker. So it's not like we're taking a completely luxury pick. It'd make Brees' life much much easier.

Thoughts?


I think that's what we're doing with Josh Hill.

While we use Watson as a stop gap to develop Hill (who is more of an athlete than Jimmy), I think he'll be our #2 TE next year/the year after.

ASJ is not necessarily a BAD pick, I just don't think we'll do it after CSP stuck with Hill even though he didn't play in pre-season.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 13, 2013 10:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good point on Hill. Any info on CBs who play a physical game? I feel that would add a lot to our secondary.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 13, 2013 10:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Good point on Hill. Any info on CBs who play a physical game? I feel that would add a lot to our secondary.


Haven't seen him play much but one of the consensus top CBs is Bradley Robey from Ohio State. Don't know how physical he is, Raves should be able to give you more info.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 13, 2013 11:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Spartica4Real wrote:
Canadian Saint wrote:
Good point on Hill. Any info on CBs who play a physical game? I feel that would add a lot to our secondary.


Haven't seen him play much but one of the consensus top CBs is Bradley Robey from Ohio State. Don't know how physical he is, Raves should be able to give you more info.


Depends on what you mean by physical CB. You want a guy that's going to lay hits like Winfield, that's not Roby. Think Cromartie but with less ball-hawk skills but slightly better run support and good blitzing skills.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 14, 2013 2:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Raves wrote:
Spartica4Real wrote:
Canadian Saint wrote:
Good point on Hill. Any info on CBs who play a physical game? I feel that would add a lot to our secondary.


Haven't seen him play much but one of the consensus top CBs is Bradley Robey from Ohio State. Don't know how physical he is, Raves should be able to give you more info.


Depends on what you mean by physical CB. You want a guy that's going to lay hits like Winfield, that's not Roby. Think Cromartie but with less ball-hawk skills but slightly better run support and good blitzing skills.


So, a Cromartie/Roman Harper hybrid???
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 14, 2013 2:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I also think OT is a big need, especially for this style offense. OT as in left and right. Big Goo Guy (aka Zach Strief) is not cutting it. I also think, and call me crazy, after the bye week Armstead may move up to starting LT.

Other big needs are OLB and ILB.

Think we're ok everywhere else. If an elite prospect CB falls to us... that's a no-brainer IMO.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 14, 2013 9:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jcvoodoo wrote:
Raves wrote:
Spartica4Real wrote:
Canadian Saint wrote:
Good point on Hill. Any info on CBs who play a physical game? I feel that would add a lot to our secondary.


Haven't seen him play much but one of the consensus top CBs is Bradley Robey from Ohio State. Don't know how physical he is, Raves should be able to give you more info.


Depends on what you mean by physical CB. You want a guy that's going to lay hits like Winfield, that's not Roby. Think Cromartie but with less ball-hawk skills but slightly better run support and good blitzing skills.


So, a Cromartie/Roman Harper hybrid???


Harper is extremely good in run support. Roby can get picks like Cromartie but he normally plays it safe and just goes for the deflection.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 14, 2013 10:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Trade up for Ja'Daveon. Laughing Laughing Laughing
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SaintsBeast wrote:
Trade up for Ja'Daveon. Laughing Laughing Laughing


If not for the transition to the 3-4 I would actually say yes we should do that. I just don't know how he would fit as a 3-4 OLB.

The only 2 players from this year's Ohio State team that I would consider for the team are CB Bradley Roby and LB Ryan Shazier. I think Shazier could definitely be that elite OLB much like Clay Matthews, just does a great job getting to the QB, laying hard hits, chasing down running plays, and even able to drop back in coverage.
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Raves wrote:
SaintsBeast wrote:
Trade up for Ja'Daveon. Laughing Laughing Laughing


If not for the transition to the 3-4 I would actually say yes we should do that. I just don't know how he would fit as a 3-4 OLB.

The only 2 players from this year's Ohio State team that I would consider for the team are CB Bradley Roby and LB Ryan Shazier. I think Shazier could definitely be that elite OLB much like Clay Matthews, just does a great job getting to the QB, laying hard hits, chasing down running plays, and even able to drop back in coverage.


I actually think Clowney may play DE in a 3-4. Also, I really like Shazier as well, just like Van Noy better.

@SaintsBeast We learned our lesson last time when we pulled a Ditka. Laughing
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Spartica4Real wrote:
Raves wrote:
SaintsBeast wrote:
Trade up for Ja'Daveon. Laughing Laughing Laughing


If not for the transition to the 3-4 I would actually say yes we should do that. I just don't know how he would fit as a 3-4 OLB.

The only 2 players from this year's Ohio State team that I would consider for the team are CB Bradley Roby and LB Ryan Shazier. I think Shazier could definitely be that elite OLB much like Clay Matthews, just does a great job getting to the QB, laying hard hits, chasing down running plays, and even able to drop back in coverage.


I actually think Clowney may play DE in a 3-4. Also, I really like Shazier as well, just like Van Noy better.


Did you mean OLB?

I don't know about a 250lb 3-4 DE. Confused
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