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PostPosted: Tue Sep 10, 2013 7:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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so far His injury cause still a myth..If you look at his entire career..especially his time with philly..95% of his injuries come from standing in the pocket..

Every time he breaks his ribs or hurts his knee it's usually when he runs and gets crunched.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 10, 2013 9:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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so far His injury cause still a myth..If you look at his entire career..especially his time with philly..95% of his injuries come from standing in the pocket..

Every time he breaks his ribs or hurts his knee it's usually when he runs and gets crunched.


I remember him breaking his leg in Atlanta against the ravens..he was running..behind the line..the ribs where hurt on a sack..then reinjured or hurt even more on a play when he ran..majority of his injuries are behind the line..dealing with pressure...I saw some Dlinemen come free through the line in the last game..not linebackers...Im talking D linemen lol. but the Oline looked a lot better though.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 10, 2013 10:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rather see that then qbs who completely avoid the play. At least get in the way or chip people as they go by. Small things can make a bug difference. A tackle is going to cause injuries, getting run over is less likely to injury him. He just cant lead with his shoulder.
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I don't understand most of that, but I can tell it's probably inaccurate.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 10, 2013 11:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Vicks a better football player then given credit for, he could play multiple positions if pushed to. Somethings with him are to natural to be explained, when i saw him blocking, that was a 6th sense thing with him.


QB's have done it before, i have seen Elway, Favre, Young all throw a block there and there on some weakside-reverse stuff..never a habit but they were more then willing and would.. When you been playing football since you were 6, some natural responses just take over.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 11, 2013 8:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Vick is NEVER going to be blocking any d-lineman, or even linebackers for that matter. If you look at the design of the plays where he did throw blocks, the only people he'll really have a chance to block (and therefore should be blocking) are members of the secondary.

Vick vs. 250-300lb LBs or DLs......that's obviously a no-no.

Vick vs. 190-205lb DBs....I like it.
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I totally get what he's doing...but as a coach I'm telling him carry out a fake of some sort so those cut back runs you take a guy out of the play.

Unncessary risk just like hanging onto the ball running towards the sideline with defenders in pursuit instead of throwing it OB before they get to him.
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I totally get what he's doing...but as a coach I'm telling him carry out a fake of some sort so those cut back runs you take a guy out of the play.

Unncessary risk just like hanging onto the ball running towards the sideline with defenders in pursuit instead of throwing it OB before they get to him.

Yeah, I appreciate what he's doing but imagine if Demarcus Ware reads the play correctly and Vick finds himself between Shady (the ball) and that beast.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 11, 2013 9:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I totally get what he's doing...but as a coach I'm telling him carry out a fake of some sort so those cut back runs you take a guy out of the play.

Unncessary risk just like hanging onto the ball running towards the sideline with defenders in pursuit instead of throwing it OB before they get to him.

Yeah, I appreciate what he's doing but imagine if Demarcus Ware reads the play correctly and Vick finds himself between Shady (the ball) and that beast.


Get down. If there's separation between Ware and McCoy no need to be in the picture.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 11, 2013 10:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Phire wrote:
nlesthought wrote:
I totally get what he's doing...but as a coach I'm telling him carry out a fake of some sort so those cut back runs you take a guy out of the play.

Unncessary risk just like hanging onto the ball running towards the sideline with defenders in pursuit instead of throwing it OB before they get to him.

Yeah, I appreciate what he's doing but imagine if Demarcus Ware reads the play correctly and Vick finds himself between Shady (the ball) and that beast.


Get down. If there's separation between Ware and McCoy no need to be in the picture.


Exactly, he can go to the ground and become defenseless at any time, he should NEVER take any unnecessary hits, because the rules allow him to avoid it. But come on, we are talking about Vick, he doesn't do stuff like that, it's not how he plays the game.
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nlesthought wrote:
Phire wrote:
nlesthought wrote:
I totally get what he's doing...but as a coach I'm telling him carry out a fake of some sort so those cut back runs you take a guy out of the play.

Unncessary risk just like hanging onto the ball running towards the sideline with defenders in pursuit instead of throwing it OB before they get to him.

Yeah, I appreciate what he's doing but imagine if Demarcus Ware reads the play correctly and Vick finds himself between Shady (the ball) and that beast.


Get down. If there's separation between Ware and McCoy no need to be in the picture.


Exactly, he can go to the ground and become defenseless at any time, he should NEVER take any unnecessary hits, because the rules allow him to avoid it. But come on, we are talking about Vick, he doesn't do stuff like that, it's not how he plays the game.


Agree. Which is the MAIN reason why he's constantly hurt. I don't expect him to change. I'm just hoping the light bulb goes on that he has to pick and choose the right situations, this is probably his last op to be a starter in the NFL.

One can assume he retires from the game after another significant injury.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 11, 2013 10:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't think Vick can afford retiring at this point, considering I'm sure he's still dealing with at least some repayments. It wasn't that long ago a majority of his paycheck was going to creditors, I'm not sure if he cleared the books yet.

Vick's stuck between "I need to try really hard and show them that I can make plays," and "I need to protect my most valuable asset, my health, but without looking like I'm lazy or lost a step."
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AZ_Eaglesfan wrote:
nlesthought wrote:
Phire wrote:
nlesthought wrote:
I totally get what he's doing...but as a coach I'm telling him carry out a fake of some sort so those cut back runs you take a guy out of the play.

Unncessary risk just like hanging onto the ball running towards the sideline with defenders in pursuit instead of throwing it OB before they get to him.

Yeah, I appreciate what he's doing but imagine if Demarcus Ware reads the play correctly and Vick finds himself between Shady (the ball) and that beast.


Get down. If there's separation between Ware and McCoy no need to be in the picture.


Exactly, he can go to the ground and become defenseless at any time, he should NEVER take any unnecessary hits, because the rules allow him to avoid it. But come on, we are talking about Vick, he doesn't do stuff like that, it's not how he plays the game.


Agree. Which is the MAIN reason why he's constantly hurt. I don't expect him to change. I'm just hoping the light bulb goes on that he has to pick and choose the right situations, this is probably his last op to be a starter in the NFL.

One can assume he retires from the game after another significant injury.

If he plays the way he did on Monday all year, he will be starting somewhere next year. He was electric, and that is coming from one of his biggest opposers in the offseason.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 12, 2013 10:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I don't think Vick can afford retiring at this point, considering I'm sure he's still dealing with at least some repayments. It wasn't that long ago a majority of his paycheck was going to creditors, I'm not sure if he cleared the books yet.
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I forget where but i remember reading an article in the past month that stated Vick has payed off or is super close to paying off all his debts.
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Phire wrote:
I don't think Vick can afford retiring at this point, considering I'm sure he's still dealing with at least some repayments. It wasn't that long ago a majority of his paycheck was going to creditors, I'm not sure if he cleared the books yet.
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I forget where but i remember reading an article in the past month that stated Vick has payed off or is super close to paying off all his debts.

Even if he does, he'd have to start saving up for life after football.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 13, 2013 6:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm one of the the top 3 Vick bashes here and I think that was the smartest I Ive ever seen him play. He didn't throw him self in to 300lb d-lineman the way the beginning of this thread made it out to sound. He engaged them just long enough to allow the plays to develop. I was more concerned with the one running play Vick had where he tried to squeeze ever last inch out of the play before getting out of bounds. If Vick continues to play like this all year, I will happilt eat my words. But, it's still just one game at this point.
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