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J-ALL-DAY


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 09, 2013 3:23 pm    Post subject: 49ers CBs Coverage Metrics/Conference Championship UPDATED! Reply with quote

Week 1 vs Packers:

Nnamdi Asomugha:

Targets 9
Completions 4
Yards 63
TDs 1
PDs 2

Tarell Brown

Targets 2
Completions 2
Yards 45

Carlos Rogers

Targets 4
Completions 3
Yards 41
TDs 1

Perrish Cox

Targets 1
Completions 1
Yards 12
TDs 1

Week 2 vs Seahawks

Nnamdi Asomugha

Targets 2
Completions 0
Yards 0
1 penalty

Carlos Rogers

Targets 4
Completions 1
Yards 13
1 PD
1 penalty

Tarell Brown

Targets 2
Completions 2
Yards 42

Week 3 vs Colts

Nnamdi Asomugha

Targets 0
Completions 0
Yards 0

Tarell Brown

Targets 2
Completions 1
Yards 15
Penalties 3

Carlos Rogers

Targets 8
Completions 5
Yards 67
Penalties 1

Week 4 vs Rams

Tramaine Brock

Targets 7
Completions 3
Yards 24
2 PDs

Tarell Brown

Targets 12
Completions 6
Yards 74
1 Penalty
3 PDs

Carlos Rogers

Targets 3
Completions 0
Yards 0

Week 5 vs Texans

Tramaine Brock

Targets 4
Completions 2
Yards 32
2 INTs

Tarell Brown

Targets 7
Completions 2
Yards 25
2 PDs

Carlos Rogers

Targets 3
Completions 1
Yards 5

Week 6 vs Cardinals

Tramaine Brock

Targets 6
Completions 5
Yards 104
TDs 1

Carlos Rogers

Targets 10
Completions 7
Yards 95
1 INT

Tarell Brown

Targets 5
Completions 3
Yards 34
TDs 1
PDs 1

Week 7 vs Titans

Tramaine Brock

Targets 6
Completions 2
Yards 68
TDs 1
INT 1
PDs 2

Tarell Brown

Targets 7
Completions 4
Yards 47
1 Penalty

Carlos Rogers

Targets 7
Completions 4
Yards 48

Week 8 vs Jaguars

Tramaine Brock

Targets 9
Completions 7
Yards 78
1 PD
1 TD

Carlos Rogers

Targets 8
Completions 3
Yards 27
1 Penalty

Tarell Brown

Targets 6
Completions 4
Yards 34
1 PD

Week 10 vs Panthers

Tarell Brown

Targets 11
Completions 7
Yards 68
PDs 2

Carlos Rogers

Targets 5
Completions 3
Yards 27

Tramaine Brock

Targets 3
Completions 1
Yards 8
INT 1

Week 11 vs Saints

Tarell Brown

Targets 3
Completions 2
Yards 49

Eric Wright

Targets 4
Completions 3
Yards 45

Carlos Rogers

Targets 6
Completions 6
Yards 40

Tramaine Brock

Targets 3
Completions 1
Yards 16

Week 12 vs Redskins

Tramaine Brock

Targets 5
Completions 5
Yards 35

Carlos Rogers

Targets 6
Completions 5
Yards 27
PDs 1

Eric Wright

Targets 1
Completions 1
Yards 9

Donte Whitner

Targets 5
Completions 0
Yards 0
1 INT

Week 13 vs Rams

Tramaine Brock

Targets 8
Completions 2
Yards 19
1 TD

Carlos Rogers

Targets 3
Completions 2
Yards 27
1 INT (Not targeted on the INT)

Eric Wright

Targets 4
Completions 3
Yards 62

Eric Reid

Targets 6
Completions 1
Yards 20

Week 14 vs Seahawks

Eric Wright

Targets 2
Completions 0
Yards 0
1 PD
1 INT

Tramaine Brock

Targets 2
Completions 0
Yards 0
1 PD

Carlos Rogers

Targets 9
Completions 7
Yards 79

Donte Whitner

Targets 2
Completions 1
Yards 8
1 PD

Week 15 vs Buccaneers

Tramaine Brock

Targets 9
Completions 6
Yards 56
1 PD

Tarell Brown

Targets 4
Completions 3
Yards 31
1 TD

Carlos Rogers

Targets 4
Completions 3
Yards 38
1 PD
1 TD

Week 16 vs Falcons

Tramaine Brock

Targets 9
Completions 6
Yards 68
1 INT
1 PD

Carlos Rogers

Targets 6
Completions 4
Yards 68
1 PD

Tarell Brown

Targets 8
Completions 4
Yards 27
2 PDs

Week 17 vs Cardinals

Tramaine Brock

Targets 12
Completions 6
Yards 160
1 TD
1 PD

Carlos Rogers

Targets 9
Completions 6
Yards 113

Tarell Brown

Targets 3
Completions 1
Yards 11

Wildcard Round vs. Packers

Tarell Brown

Targets 4
Completions 3
Yards 26
1 PD

Tramaine Brock

Targets 8
Completions 5
Yards 34
1 TD

Perrish Cox

Targets 2
Completions 1
Yards 26
1 PD

Divisional Round vs Panthers

Tarell Brown

Targets 4
Completions 4
Yards 66
1 TD

Tramaine Brock

Targets 5
Completions 3
Yards 48
1 PD

Perrish Cox

Targets 5
Completions 2
Yards 48
2 PDs

Conference Championship vs Seahawks

Tramaine Brock

Targets 7
Completions 5
Yards 37

Carlos Rogers

Targets 5
Completions 2
Yards 44
1 TD

Tarell Brown

Targets 2
Completions 2
Yards 11

We allowed a few plays that shouldn't have happened and the biggest one was the TD Rogers allowed.

Anyways, FINAL season stats including playoffs:

Tramaine Brock

Targets 103
Completions 59
Yards 787
6 TDs
5 INTs
80.8 QB rating

Tarell Brown

Targets 83
Completions 51
Yards 625
TDs 4
INTs 0
QB rating 100.7

Carlos Rogers

Targets 98
Completions 59
Yards 728
TDs 3
INTs 2
QB rating 84.9
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 09, 2013 3:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Namdi looked straight up scared to tackle. Not surprising but very disappointing. I'm hoping the bad tackling is a result of not being able to practice tackling much in preseason.

I think the grading this secondary for their play yesterday needs to be taken with a large grain of salt. It's not like they were playing John Skelton out there, they were going against the best QB in the league. He's going to make even the best secondary look average to below average. I think this group will be good but its darn near impossible to look elite against Rodgers. Not to mention his back shoulder throws. That's like Rodgers bread and butter and his favorite pass. I don't remember seeing a ton of it but those are tough to stop.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 09, 2013 3:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No doubt, it is always going to be tough going up against someone of the caliber of Rodgers. The back shoulder passes are just too tough to stop no matter how tight of a coverage you have. I just didn't like the two missed tackles and playing off coverage in the red zone. Nelson had just about as easy of a TD as you could get.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 09, 2013 3:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think cornerback metrics are stupid and don't take into account so many variables.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 09, 2013 3:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Am I the only one who thinks Nnamdi played well?
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 09, 2013 3:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

48 1/2ers wrote:
Am I the only one who thinks Nnamdi played well?


He played pretty good, but that missed tackle led to 7 points. That is my biggest knock on him, but aside from that he was great at the LOS. Only reception he allowed while he was in press coverage was the 31 yard back shoulder pass to Nelson. And I'm still a bit confused to why he played so off on Nelson on the TD and gave him a free release. Maybe he thought they were running a different defense, but have to clean that up.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 09, 2013 3:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BangBang wrote:
I think cornerback metrics are stupid and don't take into account so many variables.


They definitely don't take everything into account, but they aren't bad either. Lets you know roughly how that certain player did in coverage.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 09, 2013 4:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

J-ALL-DAY wrote:
BangBang wrote:
I think cornerback metrics are stupid and don't take into account so many variables.


They definitely don't take everything into account, but they aren't bad either. Lets you know roughly how that certain player did in coverage.


Yeah its not perfect but it's atleast something of an indication of their play.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 09, 2013 5:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NinerNation21 wrote:
J-ALL-DAY wrote:
BangBang wrote:
I think cornerback metrics are stupid and don't take into account so many variables.


They definitely don't take everything into account, but they aren't bad either. Lets you know roughly how that certain player did in coverage.


Yeah its not perfect but it's atleast something of an indication of their play.


Eh, I guess... but it's just one stat I never really take seriously. I'm typically an eye-test kind of guy to begin with, but especially so when it comes to corners.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 09, 2013 6:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I read somewhere that we allowed the lowest YAC in the league last year. Basically, if someone catches the ball, they get hit as soon as they do and they go down, for the most part.

It sure didn't look like that yesterday. Guys are going to catch perfect passes, even with great coverage, but our tackling was very sub-par. I think that tells a much bigger story.

Aaron Rodgers is going to throw passes to guys that are almost impossible to defend against, but we needed to not pour salt on the wound by missing a bunch of key tackles.

We cannot play like that in Seattle. We'll lose.
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Ataal wrote:
I read somewhere that we allowed the lowest YAC in the league last year. Basically, if someone catches the ball, they get hit as soon as they do and they go down, for the most part.

It sure didn't look like that yesterday. Guys are going to catch perfect passes, even with great coverage, but our tackling was very sub-par. I think that tells a much bigger story.

Aaron Rodgers is going to throw passes to guys that are almost impossible to defend against, but we needed to not pour salt on the wound by missing a bunch of key tackles.

We cannot play like that in Seattle. We'll lose.


That was without a doubt the worst tackling exhibition I can remember seeing from this team since Harbaugh took over. This seems to be an anomaly. But considering it was two of the new guys (Asomugha, Reid) that missed a couple tackles each, maybe it's not.

You are right about not affording it in Seattle. Wilson, Lynch and Tate are amazing at breaking/eluding tackles.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 09, 2013 6:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The poor tackling honestly reminds me of the Super Bowl where I wanted to bang my head on a wall. If this is a continuing trend for the rest of the year the team is going to have to pick up the slack in other areas to make up for it. Or you know...start tackling better.
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Maybe I'm just remembering wrong, but it seemed like there were a lot of missed tackles. Or, possibly just big ones that ended up with big yard gains or scores.

Is there a "missed tackle" stat somewhere? I couldn't find anything current, just the top 10 best and worst tacklers from previous years.
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J-ALL-DAY wrote:
BangBang wrote:
I think cornerback metrics are stupid and don't take into account so many variables.


They definitely don't take everything into account, but they aren't bad either. Lets you know roughly how that certain player did in coverage.


I'd like to see how many snaps they were in coverage for. I think that would paint a little better picture on how well they performed.
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48 1/2ers wrote:
Am I the only one who thinks Nnamdi played well?


Depends on what you mean by well. He played on Nelson for most of the game, I believe, and while he wasn't completely outmatched, Nelson clearly had the advantage. So it's sort of a situation where it was like, "okay, this is what he is. A guy who can probably cover average to above average receivers with success, but maybe struggle a little with the good and very good receivers". I would trust him on some receivers, and then be afraid when he's covering others.
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