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PostPosted: Mon Sep 16, 2013 7:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Billy Spikes wrote:
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The crazy thing is that we got 2 HUGE passes that led to almost all of our points. If we can just keep up that sort of pace and also develop some sort of intermediate game/consistency, this offense should be fine.

We didn't have deep threats like Dobkins last year.
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We didn't have deep threats like Dobkins last year.


No, but they did have guys who ran the right routes and caught the ball more often than not.
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rabbisson wrote:


We didn't have deep threats like Dobkins last year.


No, but they did have guys who ran the right routes and caught the ball more often than not.


Agreed, although hopefully that comes with time.
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rabbisson wrote:


We didn't have deep threats like Dobkins last year.


No, but they did have guys who ran the right routes and caught the ball more often than not.


Agreed, although hopefully that comes with time.


If it doesn't, it's going to be a long season. I guess if Amendola and Gronk are healthy and back to 80% of their selves by week 6 or 7 the team can skate by with the underwhelming rookies. Those 2 plus Edelman should be enough to keep the offense productive.
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Getting the running game going would be nice
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Getting the running game going would be nice


Going against the Jets and Bucs in back to back weeks (and the Bills front 7 is no joke either) isn't easy. Getting the RB's into rhythm would definitely go a long way to making the offense more consistent.

That said, it's not just the OL getting beat up front by good defenses. The run calls, both in terms of play design and when they're called, have been questionable at best.

I think Vereen succeeded vs. the Bills because his runs were the only ones which weren't either predictable or risky (toss plays in the rain? taking slow RB's sideline to sideline? running on just about every 2nd and long but not 2nd and short?, etc).
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Getting the running game going would be nice


Going against the Jets and Bucs in back to back weeks (and the Bills front 7 is no joke either) isn't easy. Getting the RB's into rhythm would definitely go a long way to making the offense more consistent.

That said, it's not just the OL getting beat up front by good defenses. The run calls, both in terms of play design and when they're called, have been questionable at best.

I think Vereen succeeded vs. the Bills because his runs were the only ones which weren't either predictable or risky (toss plays in the rain? taking slow RB's sideline to sideline? running on just about every 2nd and long but not 2nd and short?, etc).


I think McD is too used to the ability Tom has to open up run lanes with being successful in the pass game. All those questionable calls used to work when Brady was knifing up defenses with the threat of Gronk and Aaron from the TE spot in single I formations.
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http://www.footballoutsiders.com/walkthrough/2006/too-deep-zone-jerry-rice-rookie-bust

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Jets Benched Dee Milliner To Keep Patriots From Crushing His Confidence

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The truth has finally been revealed about Dee Millinerís benching.

Milliner was benched midway through his first start vs the the rival New England Patriots. Jets defensive coordinator Dennis Thurman finally admitted they were afraid the Patriots were going to target the rookie corner before he was benched last Thursday, and that there were concerns that Brady and the Pats would crush his confidence.

Asked if a loss of confidence, such as what happened to Kyle Wilson his rookie season, can really disrupt a defensive back's growth, Thurman said: "You learn from your experiences. Young corners, young nickels, when they're out there they become big targets. And you get an experienced offensive coordinator, like they have in New England, with an experienced quarterback, they're not dumb. They're looking to score points. In any situation like that, you expect a guy to go out and perform, but if you see an opportunity to make sure his confidence doesn't get shattered and he's gotta fight back -- if we can ward that off we're gonna do that.


http://www.nj.com/jets/index.ssf/2013/09/dennis_thurman_explains_reasoning_behind_benching_dee_milliner.html

http://blacksportsonline.com/home/2013/09/jets-benched-dee-milliner-to-keep-patriots-from-crushing-his-confidence/
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Jets Benched Dee Milliner To Keep Patriots From Crushing His Confidence

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The truth has finally been revealed about Dee Millinerís benching.

Milliner was benched midway through his first start vs the the rival New England Patriots. Jets defensive coordinator Dennis Thurman finally admitted they were afraid the Patriots were going to target the rookie corner before he was benched last Thursday, and that there were concerns that Brady and the Pats would crush his confidence.

Asked if a loss of confidence, such as what happened to Kyle Wilson his rookie season, can really disrupt a defensive back's growth, Thurman said: "You learn from your experiences. Young corners, young nickels, when they're out there they become big targets. And you get an experienced offensive coordinator, like they have in New England, with an experienced quarterback, they're not dumb. They're looking to score points. In any situation like that, you expect a guy to go out and perform, but if you see an opportunity to make sure his confidence doesn't get shattered and he's gotta fight back -- if we can ward that off we're gonna do that.


http://www.nj.com/jets/index.ssf/2013/09/dennis_thurman_explains_reasoning_behind_benching_dee_milliner.html

http://blacksportsonline.com/home/2013/09/jets-benched-dee-milliner-to-keep-patriots-from-crushing-his-confidence/


Dobson was abusing him, burnt him 3x by my count. Of course, for no catches.
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We didn't have deep threats like Dobkins last year.


Nope. Expecting one to three long touchdowns to Dobson this week, one on a fake reverse bomb.
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rabbisson wrote:
We didn't have deep threats like Dobkins last year.


Nope. Expecting one to three long touchdowns to Dobson this week, one on a fake reverse bomb.


They clearly like his playmaking ability, you know, once he actually has the ball in his hands.
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Pats Wilfork, Dennard and Buchanon each fined $7,800 for actions in sideline incident with Jets. Chandler Jones got $16k for roughing passer


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Final tally: Two #Jets (Ferguson, Colon) fined $49,125. Four #Patriots (Jones, Buchanan, Dennard, Wilfork) fined $39,375


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rabbisson wrote:
We didn't have deep threats like Dobkins last year.


Nope. Expecting one to three long touchdowns to Dobson this week, one on a fake reverse bomb.


One to three long touchdowns huh. By "long" you mean...how many yards?
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rabbisson wrote:
We didn't have deep threats like Dobkins last year.


Nope. Expecting one to three long touchdowns to Dobson this week, one on a fake reverse bomb.


One to three long touchdowns huh. By "long" you mean...how many yards?


35+.
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