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detfan782004


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 05, 2013 2:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

diehardlionfan wrote:
detfan782004 wrote:
FootballPhreak wrote:
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Not true. If I said that due to my eye test, Calvin Johnson is the worst Receiver in the NFL, I'd be wrong.

Did you REALLY need to feed him? Really, really?


Nobody can answer it. I want to know what we are to judge players on? What magic formula is acceptable?


There isn't a magic formula so stop trying to find one.


Stats are not good in Stafford thread but good here. Got it
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 05, 2013 2:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

detfan782004 wrote:
diehardlionfan wrote:
detfan782004 wrote:
FootballPhreak wrote:
LionsFTW wrote:
Not true. If I said that due to my eye test, Calvin Johnson is the worst Receiver in the NFL, I'd be wrong.

Did you REALLY need to feed him? Really, really?


Nobody can answer it. I want to know what we are to judge players on? What magic formula is acceptable?


There isn't a magic formula so stop trying to find one.


Stats are not good in Stafford thread but good here. Got it

I am glad you found the magic formula that works for you. Have a wonderful day Cool
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 05, 2013 2:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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diehardlionfan wrote:
detfan782004 wrote:
FootballPhreak wrote:
LionsFTW wrote:
Not true. If I said that due to my eye test, Calvin Johnson is the worst Receiver in the NFL, I'd be wrong.

Did you REALLY need to feed him? Really, really?


Nobody can answer it. I want to know what we are to judge players on? What magic formula is acceptable?


There isn't a magic formula so stop trying to find one.

I kind of think that is the point too. I am guilty as well, but regardless of any stats or articles we post, we all use them in a manner that suits us to prove our opinion. But it is still just opinion and acting like someone else is wrong because it doesn't fit my opinion is really just not the point at all. I would rather share and celebrate the differences and celebrate when others are correct as well as myself.

Like I said, I have been seriously guilty myself and I apologize and just hope to stay on the clean side of the street moving forward.


That's my point. Statistics are the only real justification people can use to support. Eye test is WEAK. No substance.

Calvin stats suggest he is top 10
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 05, 2013 2:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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It has to be Raiola for me. It just seems like every year he's been hear we haven't been able to run the ball effective.

The most frustrating thing is a 3rd and 1 and our line can't push enough to get it running the ball.

So true but at least he hasn't injured a teammate


Yeah he has! Stafford.........
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I hate Muhlbach............Pro Bowl............doesn't fit!
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 06, 2013 12:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Personal opinion > stats or meaningful data. Can't really prove me wrong based on FF criteria of eye test

This got old and meaningless awful quick. Thanks for supporting my theory that people will twist anything to fit their opinion though. Great study in human psychology. Wink


How am I gonna be wrong? What equates to wrong


You stated he is the worst active WR in the entire NFL.

It's my opinion you will be proven wrong.


Thankfully nobody is ever wrong. It's our own eye test can't fail ourselves


Not true. If I said that due to my eye test, Calvin Johnson is the worst Receiver in the NFL, I'd be wrong.


Based on? Can't use stats as they are flawed


And so are opinions. Therfore, saying someone is the worst at something is just as flawed as saying someone is the best at something, which makes these discussions completely pointless and a waste of time. I guess we can all log out permanently now.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 06, 2013 12:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anybody on our roster who went to U-M or Notre Dame.

Looking at you, Theo Riddick.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 06, 2013 1:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rob Sims is my least favorite Detroit Lion.

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That's my point. Statistics are the only real justification people can use to support. Eye test is WEAK. No substance.


Incorrect sir.

The best way (and it can still be flawed) is to use the eye test + statistics + context.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 06, 2013 6:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Rob Sims is my least favorite Detroit Lion.

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That's my point. Statistics are the only real justification people can use to support. Eye test is WEAK. No substance.


Incorrect sir.

The best way (and it can still be flawed) is to use the eye test + statistics + context.


Look at my sig. That tells you all you need to know about this line of thought.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 06, 2013 6:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

detfan782004 wrote:
diehardlionfan wrote:
detfan782004 wrote:
FootballPhreak wrote:
LionsFTW wrote:
Not true. If I said that due to my eye test, Calvin Johnson is the worst Receiver in the NFL, I'd be wrong.

Did you REALLY need to feed him? Really, really?


Nobody can answer it. I want to know what we are to judge players on? What magic formula is acceptable?


There isn't a magic formula so stop trying to find one.


Stats are not good in Stafford thread but good here. Got it


Hmmm.....once again you've mastered putting words in someone's mouth.

Reading comprehension. Try it, you might like it.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 06, 2013 7:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

BlackandBlue wrote:
1King wrote:
Rob Sims is my least favorite Detroit Lion.

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That's my point. Statistics are the only real justification people can use to support. Eye test is WEAK. No substance.


Incorrect sir.

The best way (and it can still be flawed) is to use the eye test + statistics + context.


Look at my sig. That tells you all you need to know about this line of thought.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 06, 2013 7:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

1King wrote:
Rob Sims is my least favorite Detroit Lion.

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That's my point. Statistics are the only real justification people can use to support. Eye test is WEAK. No substance.


Incorrect sir.

The best way (and it can still be flawed) is to use the eye test + statistics + context.


Did not work in other threads. Lack of consistency is issue. People act differently depending on topic and their stance. The SAME approach should be used for all arguments.

FF = whatever approach helps your case.

Stats are only measurable period. U can't not measure eye test

Based on eye test AJ Green and Dez Bryant >>>>> Calvin
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 06, 2013 8:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Based on the eye test.

Detfans opinion <<<<<<< Everyone else on FF.

Laughing Laughing Laughing

Like FTW said, might as well just "Log off" then permanently since these conversations are pointless because of the inconsistency, in your own opinion. Though, its funny, your FFMD was prolly the worst draft the Lions FFMD has had in the last 10 drafts including FFMDII's. So possibly the only inconsistent one is yourself. I know about three posters who can consistently draft starters in any year, in any draft. An I really don't even like one of those posters but it's hard to deny his ability to scout talent.


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 06, 2013 8:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

detfan782004 wrote:
Lack of consistency is issue.

I have seen no such problem. Certain people gravitate towards certain ways of provinga point. You, for instance, with a military background prefer to try to put everything in a box and state "this is the way it is, that's it".

But each individual poster is pretty consistent as far as I see. Just your perception.,
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 06, 2013 9:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jrugges wrote:
Based on the eye test.

Detfans opinion <<<<<<< Everyone else on FF.

Laughing Laughing Laughing

Like FTW said, might as well just "Log off" then permanently since these conversations are pointless because of the inconsistency, in your own opinion. Though, its funny, your FFMD was prolly the worst draft the Lions FFMD has had in the last 10 drafts including FFMDII's. So possibly the only inconsistent one is yourself. I know about three posters who can consistently draft starters in any year, in any draft. An I really don't even like one of those posters but it's hard to deny his ability to scout talent.


Using FFMD? Lol. That's group effort where voting selects players not ne personally. Mine have not been bad either. Not best but far from worst

Group efforts there
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