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Raoul Duke


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 05, 2013 9:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Davey wrote:


The most important thing a head coach needs to do, before anything else, is be able to control his team, manage it effectively and build a positive team atmosphere. You can hire a great defensive coordinator, you can hire a great offensive coordinator. There are many head coaches in the NFL, great ones, that don't call plays on offense or defense. I mean, John Harbaugh was hired to be the head coach of the Ravens as the Eagles' special teams coordinator of nearly ten years. But I assure you, they didn't hire him with hopes that they were going to improve their special teams.

Rex Ryan needs to show he can do these things, or he's not going to last. Being a fantastic defensive mind is a tremendous bonus to what should be the administrative principles of being a head coach, something he hasn't shown consistency in being able to do.

Rex Ryan has coached the team to two straight AFC Championship games, taking what he inherited and sculpting the league's best defense and the league's best running game. But our teams under him have also been undisciplined, tend to not show up on game day with the same intensity week to week, and he quite obviously lost control over his locker room when things weren't going well. Our best moments under him were very talented teams coached to get that talent maximized, but lacked the fundamentals.

Rex Ryan also got his hands on the personnel decision making and that's pretty much the reason we find ourselves where we are. And that includes the decision to hire Tony Sparano. The types of players we were targeting changed dramatically, a lot of money was being thrown around, and the long term plan we were going with was squashed in favor of spending to win now. It's all well and good if you can do that without sacrificing the future, but we couldn't. Mangini, for better or for worse, was about a certain kind of football player and was not going to go after players like Santonio Holmes. Rex Ryan couldn't care less about that kind of thing because he thought he could handle it - and he couldn't. He needs to learn from that.

The media is making it out like John Idzik can't wait to rid himself of Rex Ryan, and if Rex Ryan can't learn what it takes to actually be a successful head coach than that sentiment is probably right. But if Rex can improve on his flaws and become a better head coach, Idzik and his stripping Rex of all that power could actually be his saving grace.


Very well said.
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GangGreen420


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 06, 2013 2:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Davey wrote:
kilahchris wrote:

Rex Ryan is 10x the coach eric mangini was. Better in game manager, better at handling the defense. Rex struggles with offense because of the poor play of Mark Sanchez and tannenbaum's foolish idea of bringing in Tony Sparano to run his gimmick bs plays.



Eric Mangini did not last any time with the Cleveland Browns either. Eric Mangini could never take a 9-7 team to the superbowl, even with Brett Farve.


The most important thing a head coach needs to do, before anything else, is be able to control his team, manage it effectively and build a positive team atmosphere. You can hire a great defensive coordinator, you can hire a great offensive coordinator. There are many head coaches in the NFL, great ones, that don't call plays on offense or defense. I mean, John Harbaugh was hired to be the head coach of the Ravens as the Eagles' special teams coordinator of nearly ten years. But I assure you, they didn't hire him with hopes that they were going to improve their special teams.

Rex Ryan needs to show he can do these things, or he's not going to last. Being a fantastic defensive mind is a tremendous bonus to what should be the administrative principles of being a head coach, something he hasn't shown consistency in being able to do.

Rex Ryan has coached the team to two straight AFC Championship games, taking what he inherited and sculpting the league's best defense and the league's best running game. But our teams under him have also been undisciplined, tend to not show up on game day with the same intensity week to week, and he quite obviously lost control over his locker room when things weren't going well. Our best moments under him were very talented teams coached to get that talent maximized, but lacked the fundamentals.

Rex Ryan also got his hands on the personnel decision making and that's pretty much the reason we find ourselves where we are. And that includes the decision to hire Tony Sparano. The types of players we were targeting changed dramatically, a lot of money was being thrown around, and the long term plan we were going with was squashed in favor of spending to win now. It's all well and good if you can do that without sacrificing the future, but we couldn't. Mangini, for better or for worse, was about a certain kind of football player and was not going to go after players like Santonio Holmes. Rex Ryan couldn't care less about that kind of thing because he thought he could handle it - and he couldn't. He needs to learn from that.

The media is making it out like John Idzik can't wait to rid himself of Rex Ryan, and if Rex Ryan can't learn what it takes to actually be a successful head coach than that sentiment is probably right. But if Rex can improve on his flaws and become a better head coach, Idzik and his stripping Rex of all that power could actually be his saving grace.


Wow, this is a great post.

Sums up Ryan perfectly. This is truly a make or break season for him.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 06, 2013 8:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The media "AND THE FANS ARE" is making it out like John Idzik can't wait to rid himself of Rex Ryan, and if Rex Ryan can't learn what it takes to actually be a successful head coach than that sentiment is probably right. But if Rex can improve on his flaws and become a better head coach, Idzik and his stripping Rex of all that power could actually be his saving grace.
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