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FootballProdiG
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| Ketchup wrote: | | FootballProdiG wrote: | | They turned Baldwin into a baller maybe they will do the same to Harper. |
Say what now? Where did you pull that out of... |
Jon Baldwin, the trade they traded AJ Jenkins off for.. It was supposed to be an "equal trade". However, Baldwin is actually really good. Maybe it's just Kaepernick, but he is much better than AJ Jenkins. Maybe Chris Harper will benefit from the system as well. |
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FootballProdiG
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| 49ers Finest wrote: | | FootballProdiG wrote: | | They turned Baldwin into a baller maybe they will do the same to Harper. |
I would love if we did...
But we def have not done that yet? |
Well I don't know. I was told my various 49er fans that he was doing extremely well, and even I saw in your PS game that he was catching some crazy balls. Whereas Chiefs fans said he was relatively invisible. I think certain WR's thrive in that system with Kaepernick. Saw it from Crabtree as well whenever Alex Smith got sidelined. Chris Harper might have the same kind of impact for you guys. |
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chris00cm
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| FootballProdiG wrote: | | Ketchup wrote: | | FootballProdiG wrote: | | They turned Baldwin into a baller maybe they will do the same to Harper. |
Say what now? Where did you pull that out of... |
Jon Baldwin, the trade they traded AJ Jenkins off for.. It was supposed to be an "equal trade". However, Baldwin is actually really good. Maybe it's just Kaepernick, but he is much better than AJ Jenkins. Maybe Chris Harper will benefit from the system as well. |
Man... you are giving Baldwin a ton of praise for being a #4 WR.
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Baldwin is a baller now?
What? 
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The #49ers are looking at Chris Harper not as a WR but as a TE, H-back in the Delanie Walker mold. He's 6-1, 235 pounds. |
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| DirtyJersey9er wrote: | | Tooki wrote: | | jwalter_81 wrote: | | I have a feeling he we be asked to move to TE for the 49ers. |
Presumably he would have to be an H-Back but if so, it will not be a meaningful movie IMO. Harper seems to be more of an Anquan Boldin-like receiver.
I wonder who the Seahawks replace Harper with on the PS. |
Can't believe I am about to be civil with a Seahawks fan but.....
Yea he seems like he could be Boldin-esque. I mean he also has good size to be TE where they could move him and part ways with Celek if they so wanted. Since drafting AJ Jenkins though the 49ers have acquired only one WR on the current roster that isn't big bodied and that was the guy taken 5 picks after Harper in Patton. The second smallest WR they acquired was Boldin who is 220.
I think it's another example of the 49ers and Seahawks making moves to counter the moves of the other team. Seahawks secondary is big bodied so the 49ers went big bodied at WR. Seahawks got Harvin so the 49ers added to the secondary and replaced Goldson(a hitter with iffy tackling technique) with basically Goldson with slightly more speed and who knows how to wrap up in Eric Reid. |
I only said that because Q won't be on the 49ers team for more than a couple of years and theoretically, Harper could replace him once he's gone.
I also think that the pre-season performance of Stephen Williams made Harper more expendable. Luke Willson qualifies as the 'big WR' so to speak as well. |
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| Tooki wrote: | | DirtyJersey9er wrote: | | Tooki wrote: | | jwalter_81 wrote: | | I have a feeling he we be asked to move to TE for the 49ers. |
Presumably he would have to be an H-Back but if so, it will not be a meaningful movie IMO. Harper seems to be more of an Anquan Boldin-like receiver.
I wonder who the Seahawks replace Harper with on the PS. |
Can't believe I am about to be civil with a Seahawks fan but.....
Yea he seems like he could be Boldin-esque. I mean he also has good size to be TE where they could move him and part ways with Celek if they so wanted. Since drafting AJ Jenkins though the 49ers have acquired only one WR on the current roster that isn't big bodied and that was the guy taken 5 picks after Harper in Patton. The second smallest WR they acquired was Boldin who is 220.
I think it's another example of the 49ers and Seahawks making moves to counter the moves of the other team. Seahawks secondary is big bodied so the 49ers went big bodied at WR. Seahawks got Harvin so the 49ers added to the secondary and replaced Goldson(a hitter with iffy tackling technique) with basically Goldson with slightly more speed and who knows how to wrap up in Eric Reid. |
I only said that because Q won't be on the 49ers team for more than a couple of years and theoretically, Harper could replace him once he's gone.
I also think that the pre-season performance of Stephen Williams made Harper more expendable. Luke Willson qualifies as the 'big WR' so to speak as well. |
Oh I know I was pointing out that the 9ers were going bigger at the position before getting Harper. But now it seems like Harper will be a TE behind Davis and McDonald. I guess used in a similar rule that Delanie Walker was used.
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FootballProdiG
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| chris00cm wrote: | | FootballProdiG wrote: | | Ketchup wrote: | | FootballProdiG wrote: | | They turned Baldwin into a baller maybe they will do the same to Harper. |
Say what now? Where did you pull that out of... |
Jon Baldwin, the trade they traded AJ Jenkins off for.. It was supposed to be an "equal trade". However, Baldwin is actually really good. Maybe it's just Kaepernick, but he is much better than AJ Jenkins. Maybe Chris Harper will benefit from the system as well. |
Man... you are giving Baldwin a ton of praise for being a #4 WR. |
Like I said...this was the vibe I was getting from the 49ers fanbase not just from me. Go to their thread and read around about him, nothing but good words. The point of my comment wasn't to praise Baldwin anyways, but rather to say maybe Chris Harper might do well in a different system. |
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BamaRam
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| Reminds me of the Niles Paul situation with the Skins. |
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DirtyJersey9er
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| Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2013 3:28 pm Post subject: |
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| FootballProdiG wrote: | | chris00cm wrote: | | FootballProdiG wrote: | | Ketchup wrote: | | FootballProdiG wrote: | | They turned Baldwin into a baller maybe they will do the same to Harper. |
Say what now? Where did you pull that out of... |
Jon Baldwin, the trade they traded AJ Jenkins off for.. It was supposed to be an "equal trade". However, Baldwin is actually really good. Maybe it's just Kaepernick, but he is much better than AJ Jenkins. Maybe Chris Harper will benefit from the system as well. |
Man... you are giving Baldwin a ton of praise for being a #4 WR. |
Like I said...this was the vibe I was getting from the 49ers fanbase not just from me. Go to their thread and read around about him, nothing but good words. The point of my comment wasn't to praise Baldwin anyways, but rather to say maybe Chris Harper might do well in a different system. |
Baldwin had a few really good catches which after the feedback from KC we got post-trade made him look a lot better. Jury is still out though.
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| Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2013 3:51 pm Post subject: |
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| chris00cm wrote: | | FootballProdiG wrote: | | Ketchup wrote: | | FootballProdiG wrote: | | They turned Baldwin into a baller maybe they will do the same to Harper. |
Say what now? Where did you pull that out of... |
Jon Baldwin, the trade they traded AJ Jenkins off for.. It was supposed to be an "equal trade". However, Baldwin is actually really good. Maybe it's just Kaepernick, but he is much better than AJ Jenkins. Maybe Chris Harper will benefit from the system as well. |
Man... you are giving Baldwin a ton of praise for being a #4 WR. |
#4? You are being generous right now, as he is the #5 WR at this point .
After Manningham and Crabtree return, he probably becomes the #6 WR. But he should have a chance to contribute in the red zone and if he does it well, he could see the field much more than he will at the beginning of the season. Heck, not even sure if he will be active to start the season.
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But yeah, looks like Harbaugh wants to turn Harper into a Delanie Walker type of player. I doubt he contributes much, if AT all this season, but seems like Harbaugh's next pet project.
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Sure, but this is thread worthy and nothing wrong with jwalter_81 creating this thread.
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Your move Seahawks
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| Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2013 10:46 pm Post subject: |
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| FootballProdiG wrote: | | 49ers Finest wrote: | | FootballProdiG wrote: | | They turned Baldwin into a baller maybe they will do the same to Harper. |
I would love if we did...
But we def have not done that yet? |
Well I don't know. I was told my various 49er fans that he was doing extremely well, and even I saw in your PS game that he was catching some crazy balls. Whereas Chiefs fans said he was relatively invisible. I think certain WR's thrive in that system with Kaepernick. Saw it from Crabtree as well whenever Alex Smith got sidelined. Chris Harper might have the same kind of impact for you guys. |
So let me get this straight.... Baldwin is having mild success against teams scrubs, against teams who aren't even game planning and all of the sudden he is a "baller"? |
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