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PostPosted: Wed Aug 28, 2013 8:42 am    Post subject: Question of the Day: Shariff/Williams... what to do? Reply with quote

Two orthopedic specialists said Vikings Pro Bowl defensive tackle Kevin Williams is fortunate he didn't suffer a season-ending knee injury after a low block in Sunday night's game against the San Francisco 49ers.

But the two specialists added that Williams could miss several games -- possibly three to six weeks -- based on the location of what Vikings coach Leslie Frazier termed a "significant bone contusion."

"The important thing is, thank God he didn't tear the ACL because that would have been the next thing to go," said Dr. Daniel Kharrazi, a partner at Kerlan-Jobe Orthopedic Clinic and the orthopedic consultant to the Los Angeles Lakers. Added Dr. David Thorson of White Bear Lake, "If you're not patient, you could aggravate the cartilage, and you're looking at microfracture surgery."

http://www.twincities.com/sports/ci_23948656/minnesota-vikings-no-ligament-damage-kevin-williams-knee?source=pkg
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 28, 2013 8:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chase Baker isnt the next man up. Hes two men behind the next man up. Hes the undersized guy with the unusual number (62) who comes into focus when a once-promising backup (Christian Ballard) leaves for personal reasons, when a prized first-round pick (Sharrif Floyd) has a minor knee procedure, when a potential future Hall of Famer (Kevin Williams) has his right knee buckled by an unnecessary cut block.

Jared Allen: Hes the guy who comes in on the bottom and takes that big step. Hes probably grown the most of all the young guys Ive seen in camp. Thats good because he just might be asked to play a role on this team. Were hurting at D-tackle right now.

http://www.startribune.com/sports/vikings/221413111.html
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 28, 2013 9:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Guion, Floyd, Evans, Griffen are going to have to do work at those DT positions.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 28, 2013 9:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The NFL said that the "block" on Williams was legal. They don't care about protecting players, they care about protecting offensive players. That was as dirty a hit as I've seen in quite some time. It was completely unnecessary.
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wcblack34 wrote:
The NFL said that the "block" on Williams was legal. They don't care about protecting players, they care about protecting offensive players. That was as dirty a hit as I've seen in quite some time. It was completely unnecessary.


Chad Greenway: "I think the reality is, if the role was reversed and it was a defensive guy going into a quarterback or a receiver or a high-profile player, you tell me what's going to happen. We've seen the fines, you've seen what's gone on in this league. I think you have to be consistent. If you're going to go down that route, you better be consistent with every player, offense, defense, no matter what number's on the back of your jersey."

Jared Allen: "It's bad enough we have to deal with, where an offensive lineman can engage us and the adjacent offensive lineman can chop our legs. It's bad enough that we have to deal with a motioning tight end coming in on a pass-rush situation, we're focused on the tackle and they can take our ears out. I'm just saying, be consistent. How is Kevin not a defenseless player? You go back and look at that play, and tell me he's not a defenseless player. He has no idea that guy is there, and that dude could have taken him up high. He could have hit him right in the chest, and he chose to duck down and hit him in his knee. We don't have anything for that? I'm just a little upset about it."

http://espn.go.com/blog/nfcnorth/post/_/id/60597/final-thoughts-on-the-kevin-williams-hit
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 28, 2013 10:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

wcblack34 wrote:
The NFL said that the "block" on Williams was legal. They don't care about protecting players, they care about protecting offensive players. That was as dirty a hit as I've seen in quite some time. It was completely unnecessary.


I personally don't believe it was dirty. I think it was just a case of the guy being an idiot, not knowing where he was on the field or the status of the play.

But, it's a simple case of that type of play shouldn't be allowed, offensively or defensively. The hits should be similar to the strike zone in baseball, armpits to above the knee. His hit was uncalled for based upon the situation, but was it dirty? Not in my opinion.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 28, 2013 10:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Was completely dirty, he dove at his knee for no reason. But again, apparently we don't care about defensive players at all.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 28, 2013 11:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

PrplChilPill wrote:
Was completely dirty, he dove at his knee for no reason. But again, apparently we don't care about defensive players at all.


I think there's a difference between dirty and illegal. I think it was and should be illegal, but dirty? Dirty has to involve a significant intent to injure. I don't think that was the case.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 28, 2013 11:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't think it should be illegal to block low, and don't think what happened should be illegal but it seemed like a situation where it was completely unnecessary to block low.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 28, 2013 11:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Diving into players knees should 100% be illegal and is 100% dirty. Like Deion said "aim high, your messing with guys careers when you go down there"

If you have the technique to pull it off then fine but that clumsy idiot almost Lattimore'd him.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 28, 2013 12:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How long are the Vikings expected to be Sans Shariff?
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milanb wrote:
How long are the Vikings expected to be Sans Shariff?

Should be ready week one according to reports.
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So Floyd could be the opening day starter at UT? I hope he plays well in this opportunity so the staff can consider keeping him the starter and putting Kevin Williams either at NT or in a reserve role. Based on his season last, he doesnt offer anything more then average play. It is hard for rookie DTs to make an immediate impact, so it may be a struggle for Floyd early on. Im still excited to see him start though if he gets that opportunity.
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milanb wrote:
How long are the Vikings expected to be Sans Shariff?


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vikingsrule wrote:
So Floyd could be the opening day starter at UT? I hope he plays well in this opportunity so the staff can consider keeping him the starter and putting Kevin Williams either at NT or in a reserve role. Based on his season last, he doesnt offer anything more then average play. It is hard for rookie DTs to make an immediate impact, so it may be a struggle for Floyd early on. Im still excited to see him start though if he gets that opportunity.


Strange how it has all played out. Some fans questioned the pick due to the depth we had but then Ballard leaves and Kevin nearly has a season ending injury.
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