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GBPACKMAN4LIFE


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 26, 2013 3:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Duff Man wrote:
Gopackgonerd wrote:
ugLymayNe wrote:
Maybe it's Finley? That wouldn't be something I would like, personally. Same goes with Bostick and Mulligan. Hopefully it's DJ that's being traded.


I think it would be pretty stupid to trade one of the best TEs in the league imo.

I don't see how it benefits our team.

Even if we were to trade him for a good player, it would just be getting rid of a good player for another good player likely at another position. Then that position would have questions.


I can see some potential positives with trading Finley:

Dump contract

Give Bostick or DJ a chance to prove themselves; they might be able to catch the ball

Bonus player/draft pick?

Profit $$$$$$$


Finley's contract is a non-issue. GB is well under the salary cap in 2013, and Finley's deal expires after this season. "Dumping his contract" would not serve any meaningful purpose.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 26, 2013 3:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

GBPACKMAN4LIFE wrote:
Duff Man wrote:
Gopackgonerd wrote:
ugLymayNe wrote:
Maybe it's Finley? That wouldn't be something I would like, personally. Same goes with Bostick and Mulligan. Hopefully it's DJ that's being traded.


I think it would be pretty stupid to trade one of the best TEs in the league imo.

I don't see how it benefits our team.

Even if we were to trade him for a good player, it would just be getting rid of a good player for another good player likely at another position. Then that position would have questions.


I can see some potential positives with trading Finley:

Dump contract

Give Bostick or DJ a chance to prove themselves; they might be able to catch the ball

Bonus player/draft pick?

Profit $$$$$$$


Finley's contract is a non-issue. GB is well under the salary cap in 2013, and Finley's deal expires after this season. "Dumping his contract" would not serve any meaningful purpose.


They could use that money for either extensions or roll it over into next year's cap, so it does still have value of some sort.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 26, 2013 3:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

spilltray wrote:
GBPACKMAN4LIFE wrote:
Duff Man wrote:
Gopackgonerd wrote:
ugLymayNe wrote:
Maybe it's Finley? That wouldn't be something I would like, personally. Same goes with Bostick and Mulligan. Hopefully it's DJ that's being traded.


I think it would be pretty stupid to trade one of the best TEs in the league imo.

I don't see how it benefits our team.

Even if we were to trade him for a good player, it would just be getting rid of a good player for another good player likely at another position. Then that position would have questions.


I can see some potential positives with trading Finley:

Dump contract

Give Bostick or DJ a chance to prove themselves; they might be able to catch the ball

Bonus player/draft pick?

Profit $$$$$$$


Finley's contract is a non-issue. GB is well under the salary cap in 2013, and Finley's deal expires after this season. "Dumping his contract" would not serve any meaningful purpose.


They could use that money for either extensions or roll it over into next year's cap, so it does still have value of some sort.
Even if we traded him we're still responsible for 3.5 mil of his contract.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 26, 2013 3:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

rbens06 wrote:
HyponGrey wrote:
Duff Man wrote:
Gopackgonerd wrote:
ugLymayNe wrote:
Maybe it's Finley? That wouldn't be something I would like, personally. Same goes with Bostick and Mulligan. Hopefully it's DJ that's being traded.


I think it would be pretty stupid to trade one of the best TEs in the league imo.

I don't see how it benefits our team.

Even if we were to trade him for a good player, it would just be getting rid of a good player for another good player likely at another position. Then that position would have questions.


I can see some potential positives with trading Finley:

Dump contract

Give Bostick or DJ a chance to prove themselves; they might be able to catch the ball

Bonus player/draft pick?

Profit $$$$$$$
Seriously?


Totally agree, there has been nothing shown from any of the other tight ends that warrants trading Finley. You would have to be blown away with an offer of a high caliber/top draft pick to even get a discussion going in my opinion.
If these guys haven't been given a chance, it makes me wonder why we play these exhibition games or even practice. You'll have to check with justo, but I think DJ has already had 1st team snaps in one of the PS games.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 26, 2013 3:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

HyponGrey wrote:
Even if we traded him we're still responsible for 3.5 mil of his contract.


Still would be almost $5 mil saved in cap space.

I've already said I don't think it's a great idea, but it's not like there is no upside to it.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 26, 2013 3:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

all this talk of trading finley is ridiculous. absolutely no way it's happening. if a trade goes down, it'll most likely be one of williams or taylor. hoping it isn't bostick. i like him.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 26, 2013 4:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

CentralFC wrote:
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The really intriguing thing about all this is what can we get in return for one of our TEs?


A conditional pick. Most likely a 7th or 6th if all goes well.

I think Williams for a 6th would be a win for each party.


It'll prob be a pick but it would be nice to get some immediate help instead.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 26, 2013 4:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Most likely Bostick but I hope they're desperate enough to just take Williams/Taylor.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 26, 2013 5:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not sure why everyone thinks Williams is so expendable..
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 26, 2013 5:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

spilltray wrote:
Really his production just doesn't match that assesment

Yards:
1. Jason Whitten - 1039
...
12. Jermichael Finley - 667

Receptions:
1. Jason Whitten - 110
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9. Jermichael Finley - 61

Touchdowns:
1. Rob Gronkowski - 11
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35. Jermichael Finley - 2 (along with 7 other TEs)

Lots of players have physical ability, or "talent" they never live up to. So far, that's been Finley.



Cue the excuse that the defenses are terror-struck by Finley and sell the farm to get him covered. The reason we can't get a draft pick for Finley is that there would be no takers. The only reason I am not advocating trading Finley is because there is no market for pass-droppers.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 26, 2013 5:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ChaRisMa wrote:
Not sure why everyone thinks Williams is so expendable..
The terms are "ordinary" and "lackluster" as well as "Tradeable" (others would give something of value for him). If he wasn't good, others wouldn want him.

Besides, it's painfully obvious we don't know how to fit him in our system.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 26, 2013 5:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Trading Finley Laughing

Let's unload burnett, brad Jones, James Jones, Pickett and Lang while were at!
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 26, 2013 5:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have not been as baffled by a position is at least five years of doing depth charts.


Finley is a lock, right? Confused

DJ Williams seems to be right behind him on the depth chart, of course he has had more than a few drops and some inconsistent play on his resume

Quarless as soon as he almost had it figured out he got hurt now he is back and has caught one pass. Can they keep him?

Mulligan supposed to be the next Crabtree, good blocker, personally I hate it when we telegraph the run so I hope he doesn't make it, but Mac seems to love these guys. And honestly haven't really watched him at all in pre-season

Bostick, caught some passes and locked good, but it was against the 2 and 3s that he was doing it against.

Stonerburner. A practice squad at best, he has to be, right?

It is almost as confusing as the interior depth. Mad
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 26, 2013 5:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bostick has the potential that you just don't wanna let go.

I bet the trade is for DJ williams.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 26, 2013 6:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

blueswedeshoes wrote:
spilltray wrote:
Really his production just doesn't match that assesment

Yards:
1. Jason Whitten - 1039
...
12. Jermichael Finley - 667

Receptions:
1. Jason Whitten - 110
...
9. Jermichael Finley - 61

Touchdowns:
1. Rob Gronkowski - 11
...
35. Jermichael Finley - 2 (along with 7 other TEs)

Lots of players have physical ability, or "talent" they never live up to. So far, that's been Finley.



Cue the excuse that the defenses are terror-struck by Finley and sell the farm to get him covered. The reason we can't get a draft pick for Finley is that there would be no takers. The only reason I am not advocating trading Finley is because there is no market for pass-droppers.


If only there was a way we could find a tight end that was younger than, had a higher catch rate, a lower drop rate, and a higher YPT than say Jimmy Graham last year. That guy would be special and we certainly wouldn't have to complain about him. Oh wait.
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