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PostPosted: Sat Aug 24, 2013 1:04 am    Post subject: The Good, The Bad, the 0-16 vs. Bears Reply with quote

Good: Ford first return, DJ Hayden, D Moore had some nice catch and runs, Pryor, McGloin (sans the brutal picks), Kasa, second/third team D

Bad: How we still play in a baseball stadium, seeing another Raider QB wear #2, Jano missing a FG under 50 yards for the first time since I can remember, DMAC out with a shoulder injury

Ugly: Flynn pocket awareness, pass protection, first team run defense, first team pass defense, Pryors almost pick
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 24, 2013 1:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Really like what I saw from DJ. He looked way better then Milliner from the Jets. He uses his hands really well. Future lock down corner

I didn't like how M.Jenkins was playing off so much shorten that space and jam the WR.

I didn't like how the first team D-Line looked. They need to do something.

Love what Pryor did. Its not always pretty but he gets it done. He needs to start.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 24, 2013 1:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good:
- Pryor overall
- Kasa
- 1st string OL looked improved from the little I saw (Pryor's drives with the 1's)
- Jekyll-McGloin

Bad:
- Streater getting decked
- Pryor's jumpshot that led to that happening
- Hyde-McGloin

Ugly:
- As soon as I tuned in, we were getting drummed
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 24, 2013 1:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

For someone who hasn't played football in a while, nor learned about the speed of the NFL, I was blown away at Hayden's tackling ability. The guy has great fundamentals.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 24, 2013 1:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good:
-Hayden was the best defendor in the 1st half.
-Pryor energizing the team.
-Streater. That catch. Hope he's ok.
-Kasa is a big mofo
-McGloin poised after the INT.
-Jennings & Stewart. Run blocking was better.

Bad:
-Flynn. Without and with protection got 2 picks.
-Defense got no containment.
-Still very little pressure. Could have been worse had they not dropped so many passes.
-Missed tackles.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 24, 2013 1:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cribbs just turn your playbook in son.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 24, 2013 2:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good
Hayden playing and playing well for his debut
Fords return
Pryor energizing the team and fans
Fans booing the 1st half O
Allen benching Flynn

Bad
Poor pass rush
Kings FG hold
Cutler dicing us up

Ugly
Flynn in all facets of the game. Just turrible
Terrible run D
Cribbs
Starters getting out classed on both sides of the ball
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 24, 2013 2:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good: Pryor
Bad: defensive pass pressure and OL
Ugly: The way Reggie is starting his re-build.

Yeah, yeah Hayden is good and all. But the bask of your defense is not where you want to start your new era. We had an opportunity to draft OG's Jonathan Cooper and Chance Warmack to solidify the middle of that horrible OL. I know that no one could predict Veldheer going down, but we are so weak up the middle at the OG spots is it laughable.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 24, 2013 3:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

DOCLEW 28 wrote:
Good: Pryor
Bad: defensive pass pressure and OL
Ugly: The way Reggie is starting his re-build.

Yeah, yeah Hayden is good and all. But the bask of your defense is not where you want to start your new era. We had an opportunity to draft OG's Jonathan Cooper and Chance Warmack to solidify the middle of that horrible OL. I know that no one could predict Veldheer going down, but we are so weak up the middle at the OG spots is it laughable.


So you would have taken a guard at 3, would love to have seen the reactions in here if that had happened.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 24, 2013 4:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dessie wrote:
DOCLEW 28 wrote:
Good: Pryor
Bad: defensive pass pressure and OL
Ugly: The way Reggie is starting his re-build.

Yeah, yeah Hayden is good and all. But the bask of your defense is not where you want to start your new era. We had an opportunity to draft OG's Jonathan Cooper and Chance Warmack to solidify the middle of that horrible OL. I know that no one could predict Veldheer going down, but we are so weak up the middle at the OG spots is it laughable.


So you would have taken a guard at 3, would love to have seen the reactions in here if that had happened.


Would have thrown the remote through my TV
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 24, 2013 4:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dessie wrote:
DOCLEW 28 wrote:
Good: Pryor
Bad: defensive pass pressure and OL
Ugly: The way Reggie is starting his re-build.

Yeah, yeah Hayden is good and all. But the bask of your defense is not where you want to start your new era. We had an opportunity to draft OG's Jonathan Cooper and Chance Warmack to solidify the middle of that horrible OL. I know that no one could predict Veldheer going down, but we are so weak up the middle at the OG spots is it laughable.


So you would have taken a guard at 3, would love to have seen the reactions in here if that had happened.


idk we could've used those OG's
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 24, 2013 4:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

good:
fans RAIDERNATION

ok:
tp (but until he does it vrs #1's starting its not good)

bad:
defense


ugly:
flynn looked like crap and ive never seen tp play that bad in any nfl game. i mean that was jr, andrew walter bad. thats the guy that gives us the best chance to win?

btw we are deep at te
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 24, 2013 4:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

NCOUGHMAN wrote:
Dessie wrote:
DOCLEW 28 wrote:
Good: Pryor
Bad: defensive pass pressure and OL
Ugly: The way Reggie is starting his re-build.

Yeah, yeah Hayden is good and all. But the bask of your defense is not where you want to start your new era. We had an opportunity to draft OG's Jonathan Cooper and Chance Warmack to solidify the middle of that horrible OL. I know that no one could predict Veldheer going down, but we are so weak up the middle at the OG spots is it laughable.


So you would have taken a guard at 3, would love to have seen the reactions in here if that had happened.


idk we could've used those OG's


I said that I would have taken Warmack at the time. Look at where they both went. Top 10 for both of them. So there were other suitors that thought the same thing. What is the humongous difference between 3, 8 and 10??? And the value of the best interior OL in the draft is way higher than a solid young CB right now. I could care less about the reactions. I just think about what the OL would look like now because both of the OG's in the draft are better than Nix and Bergstrom.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 24, 2013 5:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

NCOUGHMAN wrote:
good:
fans RAIDERNATION

ok:
tp (but until he does it vrs #1's starting its not good)

bad:
defense


ugly:
flynn looked like crap and ive never seen tp play that bad in any nfl game. i mean that was jr, andrew walter bad. thats the guy that gives us the best chance to win?

btw we are deep at te


They had the starters in until the 2nd half, so Pryor did play some against the starters.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 24, 2013 5:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Studs:
Pryor - 4 rushes 37 yards TD, 7-9 passing for 93 yards TD, broke tackles, and got rid of the ball allot faster
Roach - 5 tackles
Sio Moore - 4 tackles
Ross - 4 tackles
Ford - Kickoff Returns 3 for an average of 33 yards and a 62 yard longest run, 1 rush 8 yards
Olawale - 1 catch 5 yards, has looked good in preseason
Kasa - 1 catch 19 yards TD
Rivera - 2 catches 35 yards

Spuds:
Flynn - Looked flat out bad
D. Moore - Hasn't looked like he has improved
Cribbs - Looks washed up
T. Jones - Did not look impressive
D Line - Bad against the pass, bad against the rush, zero pass rush
O Line - The O Line looked really bad even Wiz had a bad game
Running Game - Hasn't looked good at all even with McFadden
Defensive Coordinator - Hasn't tried allot of things to get some kind of pass rush like safety blitz or anything exotic
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