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Is Graham Harrell a legitimate #2 NFL Quarterback?
Yes
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No
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Kilr0y


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 17, 2013 10:40 pm    Post subject: Is Graham Harrell a legitimate #2 NFL Quarterback? Reply with quote

From what we've seen year after year in preseason, I can't help but wonder if Graham Harrell can make it in this league. Whenever he's in, the Packers seem to struggle to move the ball. His yards per attempt against Arizona was 4.0 and against the Rams 4.4. Coleman has shown flashes of quality. Vince Young is still learning the offense, and can get things done with his feet. To me, it's really puzzling that he's being given shot after shot after shot at #2 behind Rodgers. Am I alone in this? Think Think
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 17, 2013 10:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 17, 2013 10:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

HyponGrey wrote:
No.

NO
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Kilr0y


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 17, 2013 10:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

HyponGrey wrote:
No.


What does the coaching staff see in him/How has he made it this far?
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 17, 2013 10:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kilr0y wrote:
HyponGrey wrote:
No.


What does the coaching staff see in him/How has he made it this far?
Blind loyalty and lots of good showing in practice that never translates to the actual games. He's a practice savant.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 17, 2013 10:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kilr0y wrote:
HyponGrey wrote:
No.


What does the coaching staff see in him/How has he made it this far?


I think the VY signing is telling of what they are seeing/not seeing. Coleman has the tools, needs the time to polish the decision-making when its game time. Harrell just does not look the part when the game is on. Not sure VY will get there, but at least he has some NFL game experience and has won. He has his own issues as well.

Staff was likely hoping to see similar development that Flynn had. Win some, lose some. Just need to know when to cut bait.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 17, 2013 10:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lol no
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 17, 2013 10:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I voted no with some caveats.

- He played like a serviceable #2 tonight.
- Compared with the other options WE have, he might be the ONLY option
- I would take VY over him IF VY had more time on the offense, unfortunately he wont have that luxury.
- BJ is RAW, but love the tangibles he has

So in short, No he isnt a #2, but on OUR team he may be the best option for a #2 we have.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 17, 2013 10:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kilr0y wrote:
HyponGrey wrote:
No.


What does the coaching staff see in him/How has he made it this far?


He's likely a good film room guy. Probably highly intelligent, limits mental mistakes in practices, learns the playbook, does little things right. But then he's overwhelmed in the real game, significantly so.
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Kilr0y


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 17, 2013 10:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

gbpacker40 wrote:

- I would take VY over him IF VY had more time on the offense,
- BJ is RAW, but love the tangibles he has


By the time VY would be needed (a mid-season injury of Rodgers), he would have a lot more time with the offense. So I guess I see what you mean, but it's preseason week 2 so it's too early. On BJ, he's one of those guys who is such a gunslinger that if his number got called he might have a random 4 TD game. With Harrell, I just see nothing. Every time he's in in the 2nd quarter, I'm just thinking to myself "These could have been great reps for Coleman".
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 17, 2013 10:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kilr0y wrote:
gbpacker40 wrote:

- I would take VY over him IF VY had more time on the offense,
- BJ is RAW, but love the tangibles he has


By the time VY would be needed (a mid-season injury of Rodgers), he would have a lot more time with the offense. So I guess I see what you mean, but it's preseason week 2 so it's too early. On BJ, he's one of those guys who is such a gunslinger that if his number got called he might have a random 4 TD game. With Harrell, I just see nothing. Every time he's in in the 2nd quarter, I'm just thinking to myself "These could have been great reps for Coleman".


Valid point and I agree. I think I would take BJ over VY at this point and I wouldnt be opposed to BJ starting if by some nightmare Rodgers went down because lets face it, its over anyways if that happens.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 17, 2013 10:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kilr0y wrote:
gbpacker40 wrote:

- I would take VY over him IF VY had more time on the offense,
- BJ is RAW, but love the tangibles he has


By the time VY would be needed (a mid-season injury of Rodgers), he would have a lot more time with the offense. So I guess I see what you mean, but it's preseason week 2 so it's too early. On BJ, he's one of those guys who is such a gunslinger that if his number got called he might have a random 4 TD game. With Harrell, I just see nothing. Every time he's in in the 2nd quarter, I'm just thinking to myself "These could have been great reps for Coleman".


Agree.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 17, 2013 10:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kilr0y wrote:
gbpacker40 wrote:

- I would take VY over him IF VY had more time on the offense,
- BJ is RAW, but love the tangibles he has


By the time VY would be needed (a mid-season injury of Rodgers), he would have a lot more time with the offense. So I guess I see what you mean, but it's preseason week 2 so it's too early. On BJ, he's one of those guys who is such a gunslinger that if his number got called he might have a random 4 TD game. With Harrell, I just see nothing. Every time he's in in the 2nd quarter, I'm just thinking to myself "These could have been great reps for Coleman".
I always think "Can we trade him to the CFL/AFL now?"
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 17, 2013 11:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You saw Colemans true self out there on the TD drive. Confidence and Passion will lead you to greatness. The way he hurried up that receiver and celebrated with him after the TD was great to watch.

I don't believe he will make the team, but a for sure Practice Squad. His footwork is a mess, but if he can clean it up, he'll be a decent backup for us.

Matt Flynn 2.0?
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 17, 2013 11:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No. A good training camp body at best.
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