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RaiderX


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 17, 2013 4:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Silver&Black88 wrote:
RaiderX wrote:
Silver&Black88 wrote:
RaiderX wrote:
Silver&Black88 wrote:
Good:
- Jack Crawford
- David Bass
- Flynn's drive once he had protection
- Denarius Moore showed up
- King looks like he's consistent
- Brice Butler

Bad:
- Cribbs looks like crap and refuses touchbacks.
- More injuries
- Porter was toast
- No pass rush vs the 1's (bad instead of ugly since we're missing starters)

Ugly:
- Offensive line play as a whole. Good LAWD.
- Andre Gurode
- Alex Barron


Wasn't that Crawford's 1st sack ever? Preseason/Regular Season.

Took him 3 quarters and against their backups.

Bass and Robinson look like the only threats off the edge aside from Houston and Carter.


What do you want from me? The guy had a good game. I said in the GDT I thought he was a sure cut then he played that way.


Not about you man. Its just an observation. Geez.


You're always trying to correct or one up me for whatever reason. I don't really care but it just gets annoying sometimes.


I am? News to me. Stop taking everything personal dude.
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EricAllen21


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 17, 2013 5:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good(some points)

J Crawford- might as well start him. He was raw see what we got.
Gaither- a fine backup mlb
Jenkins- looks to have moves and burst as a returner
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Baggabonez


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 17, 2013 6:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bitty wrote:
Darkness wrote:
I wonder how far into the season it'll be before the fans and media start talking about Dennis Allen's job security. Whether its his fault or not, when you have one of the worst teams in the league, the HC is always heavily scrutinized.


Reggie's more to blame. He drafted two O-linemen and signed one FA. None are even on the field.
Don't even get me started on him drafting a CB instead of a O or D linemen.


Where's bitty? This makes too much sense?!?! I thought DL didn't matter much? And yes there is talk McKenzie is on the hot seat let alone Allen.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 17, 2013 6:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

RaiderX wrote:
Silver&Black88 wrote:
RaiderX wrote:
Silver&Black88 wrote:
RaiderX wrote:
Silver&Black88 wrote:
Good:
- Jack Crawford
- David Bass
- Flynn's drive once he had protection
- Denarius Moore showed up
- King looks like he's consistent
- Brice Butler

Bad:
- Cribbs looks like crap and refuses touchbacks.
- More injuries
- Porter was toast
- No pass rush vs the 1's (bad instead of ugly since we're missing starters)

Ugly:
- Offensive line play as a whole. Good LAWD.
- Andre Gurode
- Alex Barron


Wasn't that Crawford's 1st sack ever? Preseason/Regular Season.

Took him 3 quarters and against their backups.

Bass and Robinson look like the only threats off the edge aside from Houston and Carter.


What do you want from me? The guy had a good game. I said in the GDT I thought he was a sure cut then he played that way.


Not about you man. Its just an observation. Geez.


You're always trying to correct or one up me for whatever reason. I don't really care but it just gets annoying sometimes.


I am? News to me. Stop taking everything personal dude.


Yeah you are. You always do. DMX is another example. There are others too. I don't really care but LIS it gets annoying from time to time.
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Baggabonez


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 17, 2013 6:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Good:
DE David Bass
WR Brice Butler
P King
QB Matt Flynn
Gunner Twain Jones – makes the team on specials alone
WR Andre Holmes

The Bad:
Run blocking failed to get significant push

The Ugly:
Pass Rush – it’s horrendous
Pass Pro – it’s horrendous
Scapegoating Flynn – whenever Flynn’s gets rag-dolled somehow it’s his fault for not making the correct protection adjustment. It’s the Carson Palmer argument 2.0. Blame the classic pocket passer for everything.
Pryor-Apologist – The National media is now aware of Raider Nation’s Pryor obsession calling him our “heart throb”. EVERYTHING Pryor doesn't do well is someone else’s fault. Pryor is a flawed prospect that most outside of Raider Nation cannot understand the attraction. We’ve always been known as jaded delusional fans. Now we can add laughing stocks. Thanks for your support.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 17, 2013 8:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good:
Flynn
David Bass
Brice Butler
Holmes


Bad:
Pryor
Tracey Porter

Ugly:
O-Line - All of them but especially Barron and Gurode
Pass rush - Didn't exist.
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RaiderX


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 17, 2013 8:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Silver&Black88 wrote:
Yeah you are. You always do. DMX is another example. There are others too. I don't really care but LIS it gets annoying from time to time.


You mean the FIFYs? C'Mon dude. Everybody gets those. Aside from the past couple months I haven't been on this board much this year.

Sorry if I have a different perspective and you feel I'm coming after you. I'll try to agree with you more.

I mainly only quote/respond to people whose opinion I value somewhat. So again stop taking things personal.

Moving on.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 17, 2013 8:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Good:
~ We will likely be able to draft Clowney in 2014.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 17, 2013 8:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bo_Spice wrote:
The Good:
~ We will likely be able to draft Clowney in 2014.


Damnit. I should've pressed the trigger earlier lol
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 17, 2013 8:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bo_Spice wrote:
The Good:
~ We will likely be able to draft Clowney in 2014.


+1 I hope he's as big a play maker as he's being hyped up to be. I looked up his high school stats and he had like 55 sacks in 2 seasons.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 17, 2013 8:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ro4DPoY wrote:
Bo_Spice wrote:
The Good:
~ We will likely be able to draft Clowney in 2014.


+1 I hope he's as big a play maker as he's being hyped up to be. I looked up his high school stats and he had like 55 sacks in 2 seasons.


He had 13 sacks last season and early reports from fall camp out of South Carolina are that he has been absolutely unblockable.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 17, 2013 10:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok, finally got around to watching the replay. I guess I failed to see really anything good during the first half. The oline was awful all game and pass rush was non-existent as well. Tracy Porter was burnt more than the charcoal in my grill. On and on and on.

Ok so Flynn. He had two great passes all game. Unfortunately that was two more than anyone else. He definitely had the "best" game of the 3 QBs, but there is no way he should be considered having a good game. Unless your saying good that he didn't get injured or turn the ball over.

Pryor. He had no more time than Flynn did. He may have escaped it better, but he did only attempt 5 passes with maybe a few more intended pass plays.

I really can't compare the two of them unless Pryor gets to play with #1s and run at least most of the same plays. With that said, Flynn is the starting QB until he either gets hurt or we are 5+ games under .500. There's a good over/under for ya.

I guess I was hoping for more, but we really are a an expansion team just getting started.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 17, 2013 10:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Baggabonez wrote:
bitty wrote:
Darkness wrote:
I wonder how far into the season it'll be before the fans and media start talking about Dennis Allen's job security. Whether its his fault or not, when you have one of the worst teams in the league, the HC is always heavily scrutinized.


Reggie's more to blame. He drafted two O-linemen and signed one FA. None are even on the field.
Don't even get me started on him drafting a CB instead of a O or D linemen.


Where's bitty? This makes too much sense?!?! I thought DL didn't matter much? And yes there is talk McKenzie is on the hot seat let alone Allen.


Do you you read my posts. You just use sentences from it to prove your point and skip the rest.
One more time DL lineman are not as important as a QB.
When you have no DL or OL Linemen whatsoever you do not draft a CB with health concerns.
Especially when you have Star available.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 18, 2013 12:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I thought Usama Young had a solid game too. Solid depth. Dennis Allen singled him and Brandain Ross out as standing out to him. I didn't realize but Ross did have a good game too.

I could see another camp battle coming in the future of them fighting for FS after CWood is gone.


DA also praised Crawford.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 18, 2013 1:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

true2form wrote:
Ok, finally got around to watching the replay. I guess I failed to see really anything good during the first half. The oline was awful all game and pass rush was non-existent as well. Tracy Porter was burnt more than the charcoal in my grill. On and on and on.

Ok so Flynn. He had two great passes all game. Unfortunately that was two more than anyone else. He definitely had the "best" game of the 3 QBs, but there is no way he should be considered having a good game. Unless your saying good that he didn't get injured or turn the ball over.

Pryor. He had no more time than Flynn did. He may have escaped it better, but he did only attempt 5 passes with maybe a few more intended pass plays.

I really can't compare the two of them unless Pryor gets to play with #1s and run at least most of the same plays. With that said, Flynn is the starting QB until he either gets hurt or we are 5+ games under .500. There's a good over/under for ya.

I guess I was hoping for more, but we really are a an expansion team just getting started.


So we traded for a Jason Campbell 2.0? or a Kerry Collins?
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