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BeeperKing


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 10:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Atlanta got RIPPED on that trade. We also have a bunch of young DEs. Give us a DT or an OL.


I think Atlanta is in "win now" mode big time. Their talent nucleus is on the wrong side of 30 for sure. Matty Ice and Julio are nice building blocks but you guys still lack a dangerous pass rushing threat and your 29th ranking (IIRC) in sacks last year is a major concern. Not a fan of the DEs you drafted as pass rushers - goodman and maponga are both stronger against the run IMO. I see you guys trading back, getting a top pass rushing prospect and accumulating more young depth as your older players get phased out.


I wouldn't be surprised at all if we take a DE next year, but why would a team in win now move back in the draft? Wouldn't they move up to land more impact players.


I mean they are looking to win now in 2014. If they don't, age and roster attrition will take a toll forcing them to go for more picks instead of higher picks. DE, DT, G/OT, WR, TE could all be satisfied in rounds 2-4 of that deal if the falcons took it. How do you like the sound of that?

Could hypothetically go Kareem Martin (DE - UNC), DeAndre Coleman (DT - Cal), Zack Martin (G/OT - ND), Arthur Lynch (TE - UGA), and Ryan Grant (WR - Tulane) in rounds 2-4. I would be ecstatic with that draft class.



Yeah, that sounds pretty good.




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LOVE cards making the playoffs AND beating the Cowgirls. But Jeff Matthew? Really? David Fales is where it's at


Jeff Matthews > Fales. Also, Matthews is a perfect fit for Arians' offense.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 10:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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LOVE cards making the playoffs AND beating the Cowgirls. But Jeff Matthew? Really? David Fales is where it's at


Jeff Matthews > Fales. Also, Matthews is a perfect fit for Arians' offense.


I will admit though, I have watched ver very very little of Matthews. I just love Fales. And I tend to discount Ivy League QBs because of Fitzpatrick
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 11:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Jeff Matthews > Fales. Also, Matthews is a perfect fit for Arians' offense.


This. Fales is so overrated at this point. He will get drafted but more like 3rd round type guy.

And Matthews is an absolutely perfect fit for Arians. Big, elite arm, makes good decisions and loves to throw down field. Pretty deep ball and can throw posts/flags on a straight rope. Think young Palmer/current Flacco.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 15, 2013 4:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't like the pick for Seattle I'd like go D line. I also really dislike the 8-8. Not happening.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 15, 2013 5:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I don't like the pick for Seattle I'd like go D line. I also really dislike the 8-8. Not happening.


Yeah and he thinks the Cardinals will have a better record then them.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 15, 2013 12:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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LOVE cards making the playoffs AND beating the Cowgirls.


Beat someone in a bold prediction and you get cocky enough to insult someone else, huh?
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 15, 2013 1:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Like the pick. But seems a little early to draft him. Although his draft stock will probably move up and down by the time the draft gets here.

At this point I like Ifo Ekpre Olomu in round 1 and Gabe Jackson in round 2.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 15, 2013 7:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TheDeathStar wrote:
LuckyNumber11 wrote:
LOVE cards making the playoffs AND beating the Cowgirls.


Beat someone in a bold prediction and you get cocky enough to insult someone else, huh?


Haha, just a joke man
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 15, 2013 7:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jshowers wrote:
BeeperKing wrote:

Jeff Matthews > Fales. Also, Matthews is a perfect fit for Arians' offense.


This. Fales is so overrated at this point. He will get drafted but more like 3rd round type guy.

And Matthews is an absolutely perfect fit for Arians. Big, elite arm, makes good decisions and loves to throw down field. Pretty deep ball and can throw posts/flags on a straight rope. Think young Palmer/current Flacco.


Fales is not overrated, he is a first round player no doubt in my mind, probably not the top 10 pick some predict but he's the second best QB in this draft. And like I said I just don't watch Ivy League QBs or the Ivy League period
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 16, 2013 4:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice job on this mock - well thought out.

With the Browns at 16 - cannot argue against the FS from Bama. But I also think, even before the recent injuries to Lauvao and Pinkston, OG was going to be a high priority. I would have gone for Richardson of Baylor.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 16, 2013 8:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

4-12 smh.....
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 21, 2013 10:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice pick for 49ers - personally I do prefer Louchiez Purifoy, Florida over Colvin.

Nitpicking - shouldn't the 9ers pick after Atlanta?
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 22, 2013 3:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Im still not sold on them passing on lee i would take lee in the first and james hurst in the second if he is there
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 24, 2013 12:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

First off Miami is not a 4-12 team. If you watched the offseason acquisitions you would see that and second Alabama runs a pro style offense. Miami runs a ZBS which means the kid from Alabama would not be a good fit. In this situation we take Jake Mathews who I think is better than Joekel
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 24, 2013 9:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jaytotha wrote:
First off Miami is not a 4-12 team. If you watched the offseason acquisitions you would see that and second Alabama runs a pro style offense. Miami runs a ZBS which means the kid from Alabama would not be a good fit. In this situation we take Jake Mathews who I think is better than Joekel


If you think your team would pass on the best available LT just because he played in a man blocking scheme in college when your pro team runs a ZBS then you're really nit picking wayyy to much and looking for that perfect "scheme fit" over the player with the most talent. Blocking technique can be taught and developed.
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