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Big Rob


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 11, 2013 5:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Said when we picked him up he was a nice find...he and Streater have similar skillets...RMC does work in the late rounds...
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 13, 2013 5:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If he stays healthy, then yea I could see him being our #1 at some point. He has great ball skills and deceptive speed.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 13, 2013 7:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Big Rob wrote:
Said when we picked him up he was a nice find...he and Streater have similar skillets...RMC does work in the late rounds...


Yes. . . yes he does. /nod. Very impressive.

However, I also think he is terrified of missing on early selections (hunch) and relies too much on cronies (Clinckscales) and family (his twin) rather than bring in a fresh perspective. Too much "group think" in the warroom.
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(on building inside out) teams without highly draft DT's make the playoffs and win the superbowl regularly.

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Teams that win Superbowls and make the playoffs aren't picking in the Top 5, clearly
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 13, 2013 11:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Baggabonez wrote:
Big Rob wrote:
Said when we picked him up he was a nice find...he and Streater have similar skillets...RMC does work in the late rounds...


Yes. . . yes he does. /nod. Very impressive.

However, I also think he is terrified of missing on early selections (hunch) and relies too much on cronies (Clinckscales) and family (his twin) rather than bring in a fresh perspective. Too much "group think" in the warroom.


He's only had one 1st RD pick and one 2nd...both of which I think were good choices...
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 7:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Baggabonez wrote:
Big Rob wrote:
Said when we picked him up he was a nice find...he and Streater have similar skillets...RMC does work in the late rounds...


Yes. . . yes he does. /nod. Very impressive.

However, I also think he is terrified of missing on early selections (hunch) and relies too much on cronies (Clinckscales) and family (his twin) rather than bring in a fresh perspective. Too much "group think" in the warroom.


What evidence supports that?
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 6:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

big_palooka wrote:
Baggabonez wrote:
Big Rob wrote:
Said when we picked him up he was a nice find...he and Streater have similar skillets...RMC does work in the late rounds...


Yes. . . yes he does. /nod. Very impressive.

However, I also think he is terrified of missing on early selections (hunch) and relies too much on cronies (Clinckscales) and family (his twin) rather than bring in a fresh perspective. Too much "group think" in the warroom.


What evidence supports that?


Just a total hunch by me, BP. McKenzie basically let Wiz 1.0 make the Bergs pick and then Wiz inconspicuously left the staff. If I was a first time GM I would definitely want to have my hands all over my very first draft selection regardless of what round it was.
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(on building inside out) teams without highly draft DT's make the playoffs and win the superbowl regularly.

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Teams that win Superbowls and make the playoffs aren't picking in the Top 5, clearly
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 19, 2013 8:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I follow Brice Butler on Twitter and he is fast becoming one of my favorite rookies this year. A guy of his size (6'3") and speed and hands to go with it and on top of that great work ethic and a very down-to-earth personality and he has all the makings of a 7th-round gem.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 19, 2013 10:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Big Rob wrote:
Said when we picked him up he was a nice find...he and Streater have similar skillets...RMC does work in the late rounds...


I don't know what kind of cookware they use but Streater and Butler do not have similar skill sets.
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(on building inside out) teams without highly draft DT's make the playoffs and win the superbowl regularly.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 19, 2013 11:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sonic Raider wrote:
I follow Brice Butler on Twitter and he is fast becoming one of my favorite rookies this year. A guy of his size (6'3") and speed and hands to go with it and on top of that great work ethic and a very down-to-earth personality and he has all the makings of a 7th-round gem.


so what were the pre-draft knocks on him?
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 19, 2013 11:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

CrapTakula wrote:
Sonic Raider wrote:
I follow Brice Butler on Twitter and he is fast becoming one of my favorite rookies this year. A guy of his size (6'3") and speed and hands to go with it and on top of that great work ethic and a very down-to-earth personality and he has all the makings of a 7th-round gem.


so what were the pre-draft knocks on him?


Didnt he transfer from USC to some really small school since he had trouble learning the system or got buried on the depth chart? I remember something weird like that being the case.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 20, 2013 1:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Baggabonez wrote:
big_palooka wrote:
Baggabonez wrote:
Big Rob wrote:
Said when we picked him up he was a nice find...he and Streater have similar skillets...RMC does work in the late rounds...


Yes. . . yes he does. /nod. Very impressive.

However, I also think he is terrified of missing on early selections (hunch) and relies too much on cronies (Clinckscales) and family (his twin) rather than bring in a fresh perspective. Too much "group think" in the warroom.


What evidence supports that?


Just a total hunch by me, BP. McKenzie basically let Wiz 1.0 make the Bergs pick and then Wiz inconspicuously left the staff. If I was a first time GM I would definitely want to have my hands all over my very first draft selection regardless of what round it was.


lol very true
but al let rod pick dvd and....

reg and al are not that diff imo except reg likes to trade pick for picks
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 20, 2013 4:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

NCOUGHMAN wrote:
Baggabonez wrote:
big_palooka wrote:
Baggabonez wrote:
Big Rob wrote:
Said when we picked him up he was a nice find...he and Streater have similar skillets...RMC does work in the late rounds...


Yes. . . yes he does. /nod. Very impressive.

However, I also think he is terrified of missing on early selections (hunch) and relies too much on cronies (Clinckscales) and family (his twin) rather than bring in a fresh perspective. Too much "group think" in the warroom.


What evidence supports that?


Just a total hunch by me, BP. McKenzie basically let Wiz 1.0 make the Bergs pick and then Wiz inconspicuously left the staff. If I was a first time GM I would definitely want to have my hands all over my very first draft selection regardless of what round it was.


lol very true
but al let rod pick dvd and....

reg and al are not that diff imo except reg likes to trade pick for picks


I think I did read that! Then boom Rod is gone. I've heard Rod's coaching clinics and I was impressed. It's too bad he didn't stick.

However, citing the similarities between Reg and AL isn't really a good thing. With all due respect to the deceased.
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