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The one on the university of Miami is phenomenal
Agreed, really enjoyed the one about Allen Iverson as well. Glad to see ESPN doing some actual content production not just fanning flames on sportscenter.
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The one on the university of Miami is phenomenal
Agreed, really enjoyed the one about Allen Iverson as well. Glad to see ESPN doing some actual content production not just fanning flames on sportscenter.


Yea that iverson one was really good too
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poorbytehshore wrote:
Estonianzulu wrote:
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Just got done watching the emotional drivel that was The Band That Wouldn't Die.

Made me feel sick. Pure hypocrisy. Not being from your country I'm no expert on the history of the Browns so I didn't know that the Baltimore marching band first played in front of the Browns and were well received.

Someone explain how the concept of relocation can even be a consideration let alone a reality? Madness.


Never discuss the move with Ravens fans. This documentary is an example of why. There's a strong sense of denial that exists in that discussion. The fact that the Browns stayed 'in cleveland' makes it all ok that our team was stolen from us. And competely different from what happened to them.

And Isray is a scumbag, while Art Moddell deserves to be the in the Hall of Fame. Its a weird argument from both sides (As a fanbase that had a team stole, then received a stolen team).

The documentary does a terrible job of being even handed. The Baltimore fans are the victims in that narrative.


I was going to create a thread but thought better of it. The way they reiterated how they wouldn't wish what they went through on anyone else... I actually like most of those 30 for 30 docs but I knew from the first few moments that this was going to be an hour of emotional porn laced with hypocrisy and a cosy little ending.


A thread would probably get people banned...


I would probably get in trouble in that thread because that is an issue I could not sit on the sidelines for.
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pmk wrote:
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The one on the university of Miami is phenomenal
Agreed, really enjoyed the one about Allen Iverson as well. Glad to see ESPN doing some actual content production not just fanning flames on sportscenter.


Yea that iverson one was really good too


you guys watch the one last night about Bernard King. It was really good
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This incognito story is getting out of hand. Everytime I turn on espn nfl network or a sports radio show they are talking about it. It's nauseating. How many times can you hear the same take over and over again. Sports media loves to just run these story's into the ground everytime something happens
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This incognito story is getting out of hand. Everytime I turn on espn nfl network or a sports radio show they are talking about it. It's nauseating. How many times can you hear the same take over and over again. Sports media loves to just run these story's into the ground everytime something happens


I think this is very important to the NFL because of some many aspects and the future impact it will have. This could really eliminate the rookie hazing which isnt that big of a deal but this would force coaches to eliminate.This will sent a precedent of what to do if teammates are treating other teammates like that when its unwanted. You also have an issue that this kind of abuse might of been set up by the coaches to try and toughen Martin up. This incident is more than just incognito messing with Martin.

You could the ripple effect of this is much bigger than the incident.

God looking back at it, this is bad to say by I shared a locker next to our starting LT and I played both RG and LG in college. Him and I had the weirdest relationship. Always messing each other. For some odd reason we always refereed to each as jews and took it to lengths that isnt appropriate for FF. I think it all stemmed because I would shave my head for football and he started calling me a name and I would return fire and that went on for 2-3years.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 06, 2013 4:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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This incognito story is getting out of hand. Everytime I turn on espn nfl network or a sports radio show they are talking about it. It's nauseating. How many times can you hear the same take over and over again. Sports media loves to just run these story's into the ground everytime something happens


Easy solution- go on twitter and break a story about Tim Tebow being in the Jacksonville Airport.
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sdrawkcab321 wrote:
This incognito story is getting out of hand. Everytime I turn on espn nfl network or a sports radio show they are talking about it. It's nauseating. How many times can you hear the same take over and over again. Sports media loves to just run these story's into the ground everytime something happens


I think this is very important to the NFL because of some many aspects and the future impact it will have. This could really eliminate the rookie hazing which isnt that big of a deal but this would force coaches to eliminate.This will sent a precedent of what to do if teammates are treating other teammates like that when its unwanted. You also have an issue that this kind of abuse might of been set up by the coaches to try and toughen Martin up. This incident is more than just incognito messing with Martin.

You could the ripple effect of this is much bigger than the incident...


Yes, from a sports management perspective it is an interesting developing story. I'm intrigued with how the NFL is going to handle this... Spin it as an isolated issue and blow right past it, or air the dirty laundry drop the hammer and make this a very public precent... "Character of the shield" type of thing...
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buno67 wrote:
sdrawkcab321 wrote:
This incognito story is getting out of hand. Everytime I turn on espn nfl network or a sports radio show they are talking about it. It's nauseating. How many times can you hear the same take over and over again. Sports media loves to just run these story's into the ground everytime something happens


I think this is very important to the NFL because of some many aspects and the future impact it will have. This could really eliminate the rookie hazing which isnt that big of a deal but this would force coaches to eliminate.This will sent a precedent of what to do if teammates are treating other teammates like that when its unwanted. You also have an issue that this kind of abuse might of been set up by the coaches to try and toughen Martin up. This incident is more than just incognito messing with Martin.

You could the ripple effect of this is much bigger than the incident...


Yes, from a sports management perspective it is an interesting developing story. I'm intrigued with how the NFL is going to handle this... Spin it as an isolated issue and blow right past it, or air the dirty laundry drop the hammer and make this a very public precent... "Character of the shield" type of thing...


You also have to look at it as Bullying is one of the biggest hot topics in society at the moment, and if they do nothing at all, that is going to be a catastrophic PR move for them
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Dawgpoun8017 wrote:
Dropkick_pride wrote:
buno67 wrote:
sdrawkcab321 wrote:
This incognito story is getting out of hand. Everytime I turn on espn nfl network or a sports radio show they are talking about it. It's nauseating. How many times can you hear the same take over and over again. Sports media loves to just run these story's into the ground everytime something happens


I think this is very important to the NFL because of some many aspects and the future impact it will have. This could really eliminate the rookie hazing which isnt that big of a deal but this would force coaches to eliminate.This will sent a precedent of what to do if teammates are treating other teammates like that when its unwanted. You also have an issue that this kind of abuse might of been set up by the coaches to try and toughen Martin up. This incident is more than just incognito messing with Martin.

You could the ripple effect of this is much bigger than the incident...


Yes, from a sports management perspective it is an interesting developing story. I'm intrigued with how the NFL is going to handle this... Spin it as an isolated issue and blow right past it, or air the dirty laundry drop the hammer and make this a very public precent... "Character of the shield" type of thing...


You also have to look at it as Bullying is one of the biggest hot topics in society at the moment, and if they do nothing at all, that is going to be a catastrophic PR move for them


Absolutely, I know the HS I am currently coaching at spent just as much time in the preseason talking about Hazing/bullying (not much of a difference between the two) than everything else except drugs, and the only reason drugs were further up the chain was because they brought in a guest speaker.
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Dropkick_pride wrote:
Dawgpoun8017 wrote:
Dropkick_pride wrote:
buno67 wrote:
sdrawkcab321 wrote:
This incognito story is getting out of hand. Everytime I turn on espn nfl network or a sports radio show they are talking about it. It's nauseating. How many times can you hear the same take over and over again. Sports media loves to just run these story's into the ground everytime something happens


I think this is very important to the NFL because of some many aspects and the future impact it will have. This could really eliminate the rookie hazing which isnt that big of a deal but this would force coaches to eliminate.This will sent a precedent of what to do if teammates are treating other teammates like that when its unwanted. You also have an issue that this kind of abuse might of been set up by the coaches to try and toughen Martin up. This incident is more than just incognito messing with Martin.

You could the ripple effect of this is much bigger than the incident...


Yes, from a sports management perspective it is an interesting developing story. I'm intrigued with how the NFL is going to handle this... Spin it as an isolated issue and blow right past it, or air the dirty laundry drop the hammer and make this a very public precent... "Character of the shield" type of thing...


You also have to look at it as Bullying is one of the biggest hot topics in society at the moment, and if they do nothing at all, that is going to be a catastrophic PR move for them


Absolutely, I know the HS I am currently coaching at spent just as much time in the preseason talking about Hazing/bullying (not much of a difference between the two) than everything else except drugs, and the only reason drugs were further up the chain was because they brought in a guest speaker.



yea the same thing happened at my local HS as well, friend of mine is a coach
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[quote="sdrawkcab321"]This incognito story is getting out of hand. Everytime I turn on espn nfl network or a sports radio show they are talking about it. It's nauseating. How many times can you hear the same take over and over again. Sports media loves to just run these story's into the ground everytime something happens[/quote

The situation is at least somewhat interesting. I rather hear about this story rather than Tim Tebow or Brett Favre.
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Estonianzulu wrote:
sdrawkcab321 wrote:
This incognito story is getting out of hand. Everytime I turn on espn nfl network or a sports radio show they are talking about it. It's nauseating. How many times can you hear the same take over and over again. Sports media loves to just run these story's into the ground everytime something happens


Easy solution- go on twitter and break a story about Tim Tebow being in the Jacksonville Airport.


Hahaha yes !!!! Laughing
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that's british sign language.... doesn't look the same in ASL. Wife teaches deaf ed in Cleveland.
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