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Mongo


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 17, 2013 2:39 am    Post subject: Trade Albert for Byrd? Reply with quote

Since Brendan Albert is no longer in the Chiefs plans, would you consider trading him to Buffalo for Jairus Byrd?

I'm going to float it on the Bills board to see their thoughts.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 17, 2013 3:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Since both are one year rentals at this point I'll just stick with the man who has been our LT for the past what? 4-5 years?
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 17, 2013 9:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Depends on what you think of Stephenson and Fisher. If we think we can sign Byrd long term I'd do it, but only if we're comfortable with Stephenson and Fisher.

I don't see why the Bills would, personally.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 17, 2013 12:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Although Byrd is a boss, Albert will have more of an impact on our roster.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 17, 2013 1:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would take the trade even if it was just for a one year rental. With Byrd we would prolly have the best secondary in the NFL. With or with out Albert we still have an avg to above avg line.

But it wouldn't be in the best interest for the Bills to trade for Albert he doesn't fill that big of a hole and would make a big hole in trading Byrd.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 17, 2013 1:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mikek163 wrote:
Although Byrd is a boss, Albert will have more of an impact on our roster.

That's arguable. Even if true it's only for one year. The Chiefs have no intention of keeping Brendan Albert beyond this season.

You only do this with signing Byrd long-term in mind.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 17, 2013 1:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't like it... keep your LT.

This year 1 offense needs its best OL, if you really want to turn things around. The defense has enough pieces to handle their business. The offense needs the extra assistance right now. Keep the OL very strong this season, and it will give the Chiefs a higher chance of success.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 17, 2013 1:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

samsel23 wrote:
Depends on what you think of Stephenson and Fisher. If we think we can sign Byrd long term I'd do it, but only if we're comfortable with Stephenson and Fisher.

I don't see why the Bills would, personally.

It would depend on if they really think Cordy Glenn is a long term solution at LT and not just a guy who fared well there for one year.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 17, 2013 2:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Byrd is a better safety than Albert is a tackle, and the Bills already have a good line, so if I were them I would laugh at it. For you guys, the same tbh. You don't need berry, Lewis, and Byrd
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 17, 2013 4:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JBURGE25 wrote:
Byrd is a better safety than Albert is a tackle, and the Bills already have a good line, so if I were them I would laugh at it. For you guys, the same tbh. You don't need berry, Lewis, and Byrd

Why not? Lewis is not good. FS is a hole in the defense.

The Bills OL is not "good". They have two below average starters at LG and RT.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 17, 2013 4:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Byrd wants to be the highest paid safety in the league (not worth it) Albert wants to be paid like a top tackle (arguably not worth it). Either way we won't be able to afford paying EITHER next season without significant work/cutting of people.

I don't see a winner in this trade, as you are basically swapping one issue for another.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 18, 2013 2:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DT58_lives_on wrote:
Byrd wants to be the highest paid safety in the league (not worth it) Albert wants to be paid like a top tackle (arguably not worth it). Either way we won't be able to afford paying EITHER next season without significant work/cutting of people.

I don't see a winner in this trade, as you are basically swapping one issue for another.

The Chiefs will find cap room. Teams always do. So signing Byrd long term would be possible. Therefore there's no issue.

Chiefs get rid of a player no longer in their plans and have one of the best secondaries in the NFL.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 18, 2013 3:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Didn't you say we couldn't find money for Albert, but we can for Byrd?

I'm not saying it's not possible, I just don't see it, now say Byrd had a year left on his contract and wanted an extension or something, then maybe...but franchise for franchise doesn't make much sense. Not to mention I don't think it matters what team franchises the player, two years in a row means a bump up.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 19, 2013 10:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

man out secondary would be amazing then id much rather keep the LT though
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 19, 2013 2:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DT58_lives_on wrote:
Didn't you say we couldn't find money for Albert, but we can for Byrd?

I'm not saying it's not possible, I just don't see it, now say Byrd had a year left on his contract and wanted an extension or something, then maybe...but franchise for franchise doesn't make much sense. Not to mention I don't think it matters what team franchises the player, two years in a row means a bump up.

We won't have the cap $$$ to franchise Albert again. It costs 120% of his current salary to do it two years in a row. That’s approx. $10M.

I don't know if acquiring Byrd would allow them to renegotiate his contract during the season or not. If they can, the ~$8.5M tied up in BA's cap number could be used as the signing bonus part of Byrd's long term contract paired with the league minimum salary for year one.

You’d have to convince Byrd that he is not the #1 FS in the game, though. He may be posturing to get out of BUF. Who knows? I’d use Dashon Goldson’s contract as a template.
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