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PostPosted: Mon Jul 08, 2013 3:17 pm    Post subject: Retired LB Green suing Redskins for bounty-related injury Reply with quote

Text from ESPN:

"ESPN NFL - Retired LB Barrett Green suing Redskins, claims that career-ending knee injury was result of team-led bounty program."

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/9460334/barrett-green-sues-washington-redskins-gregg-williams-injury

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Barrett Green played linebacker for the Detroit Lions and New York Giants between 2000 and 2005. He says a career-ending knee injury during a game on Dec. 5, 2004 was the result of an "unusual, outrageous and an obvious cheap shot."

The lawsuit also names former Redskins player Robert Royal, the player who hit Green, and former assistant coach Gregg Williams.


Green was a second-round pick for the Lions in the 2000 NFL Draft.

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/G/GreeBa20.htm
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 08, 2013 4:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Robert royal plays TE. How exactly did Gregg Williams coach him? Thi guy is obviously just looking for a handout.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 08, 2013 10:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Barrett Green is a scrab.

If the redskins were game planning to injure a scrub player like him then everyone on the redskins should be fired for being that stupid.

Robert Royal is a TE if he was really being coached my a defensive cord then hell just froze over
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 08, 2013 10:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Someone must not have been good with his money. Watch him demand $50 million because he was one year from breaking out and becoming the best linebacker in football.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 08, 2013 10:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Solid depth player. He was a starter for the Lions due to us sucking and all but he was unspectacular.

Feel like this is more of a money grabbing incident. Sucks for any players that were actually injured due to this scandal (if any).
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 09, 2013 2:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pretty cool lawsuit. The NFL commissioner stipulated that Williams ran pay-to-injure programs. Lets see the league lawyers argue that there was no program.

Nice to see Goodell actually hurt the owners for a change, instead of constantly attacking the game and players.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 09, 2013 9:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sets a dangerous precedent. Even though it's against the Redskins, Goodell will not let this man win.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 09, 2013 9:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lions should probably get some comp picks. Yeah, that's the ticket.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 3:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

HTTRG3Dynasty wrote:
Sets a dangerous precedent. Even though it's against the Redskins, Goodell will not let this man win.


I am pretty sure Roger does not get the final say here.

The real problem I think will be the fact that they have already let the idiot coach back into the league.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 1:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

HTTRG3Dynasty wrote:
Sets a dangerous precedent. Even though it's against the Redskins, Goodell will not let this man win.


If Roger comes across an honest judge all the league's money won't help.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 2:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

spex wrote:
HTTRG3Dynasty wrote:
Sets a dangerous precedent. Even though it's against the Redskins, Goodell will not let this man win.


If Roger comes across an honest judge all the league's money won't help.


Ah, but who appoints the judge?
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 13, 2013 8:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The players have the NFLPA for representatives and coaches have the league. Maybe it's why he chose this method. Players being safe from methods like these provided their play is within that which is considered usual in football even if the play that caused the injury was flagged. Example of this being a boxer who injures his opponent by hitting the guy after the bell. This would be opposed to a boxer who was prosecuted for hitting another boxer in the ring with his hands after the match. Another is a player in hockey who injures a player from high sticking vs injurying from use of his stick as a weapon. My guess being it would have to be primarily established that some of these are not acceptable in leagues or part of football.
Targeting of players,
Extra rewards for strongly hitting a player,
Specific intents to cause injuries,
Planning or discussion of the same.
He would likely have to prove the specifics between the league and his injury also.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 14, 2013 1:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

PurpleLion wrote:
The players have the NFLPA for representatives and coaches have the league. Maybe it's why he chose this method. Players being safe from methods like these provided their play is within that which is considered usual in football even if the play that caused the injury was flagged. Example of this being a boxer who injures his opponent by hitting the guy after the bell. This would be opposed to a boxer who was prosecuted for hitting another boxer in the ring with his hands after the match. Another is a player in hockey who injures a player from high sticking vs injurying from use of his stick as a weapon. My guess being it would have to be primarily established that some of these are not acceptable in leagues or part of football.
Targeting of players,
Extra rewards for strongly hitting a player,
Specific intents to cause injuries,
Planning or discussion of the same.
He would likely have to prove the specifics between the league and his injury also.


Goodell may be delusional, but he holds the office of NFL commissioner, and if he says NFL teams are operating crime rings who's to argue? I think the Skins best defense is that if there were such a crime ring, wouldn't the FBI have investigated it?

In any event, the league does have a lot of 'influence' with the courts. I think we've seen some already with this case being moved to another jurisdiction than was originally intended.

It's not about arguments so much as strategy. Right now, the league is huge favorite.
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