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PostPosted: Wed Jun 26, 2013 10:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fine with this. Let him play well again in a contract year, get a 3rd round pick as compensation
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 27, 2013 2:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://espn.go.com/blog/dallas/cowboys/post/_/id/4709844/credit-cowboys-for-not-committing-to-anthony-spencer

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The Cowboys were wise to back away from the negotiating table, ending talks with Spencer and agent Jordan Woy. Itís been a cordial dance over the last couple of years, but the gap didnít close nearly enough between Spencerís desire to be paid like a Pro Bowler and the Cowboysí unwillingness to come close to committing to that kind of money over the long haul.

So the sides have agreed to just let Spencer play out the season for the one-year, franchise-tag deal again. After being franchise-tagged two straight years, Spencer will hit the open market with no restrictions in the offseason.

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http://espn.go.com/blog/dallas/cowboys/post/_/id/4709844/credit-cowboys-for-not-committing-to-anthony-spencer

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The Cowboys were wise to back away from the negotiating table, ending talks with Spencer and agent Jordan Woy. Itís been a cordial dance over the last couple of years, but the gap didnít close nearly enough between Spencerís desire to be paid like a Pro Bowler and the Cowboysí unwillingness to come close to committing to that kind of money over the long haul.

So the sides have agreed to just let Spencer play out the season for the one-year, franchise-tag deal again. After being franchise-tagged two straight years, Spencer will hit the open market with no restrictions in the offseason.


He'll have a 3 sack game in the preseason, and Jerry will cave.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 27, 2013 3:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

GeneralDissaray wrote:
Matts4313 wrote:
http://espn.go.com/blog/dallas/cowboys/post/_/id/4709844/credit-cowboys-for-not-committing-to-anthony-spencer

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The Cowboys were wise to back away from the negotiating table, ending talks with Spencer and agent Jordan Woy. Itís been a cordial dance over the last couple of years, but the gap didnít close nearly enough between Spencerís desire to be paid like a Pro Bowler and the Cowboysí unwillingness to come close to committing to that kind of money over the long haul.

So the sides have agreed to just let Spencer play out the season for the one-year, franchise-tag deal again. After being franchise-tagged two straight years, Spencer will hit the open market with no restrictions in the offseason.


He'll have a 3 sack game in the preseason, and Jerry will cave.


I laughed out loud at that one. Probably closer to the truth then we all want to believe. I am hoping that the Cowboys have drawn their proverbial "line in the sand" and are taking a take it or leave it stance. This is long overdue.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 27, 2013 5:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

flyingmonkey30 wrote:
Fine with this. Let him play well again in a contract year, get a 3rd round pick as compensation


So if a team signs him next yr we get a 3rd rd pick given to us? It would be a compensation pick right? You can't trade those can you?
That would be nice. Get a great yr out of Spencer then let him walk for big money somewhere else when he turns 30 and get an extra pick. Sounds nice to me!
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 27, 2013 6:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very happy to hear this. Hoping he does not come back after this year. Not worth it at all for what he wants and could get a nice comp pick for him.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 27, 2013 6:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Justin Hoover82 wrote:
flyingmonkey30 wrote:
Fine with this. Let him play well again in a contract year, get a 3rd round pick as compensation


So if a team signs him next yr we get a 3rd rd pick given to us? It would be a compensation pick right? You can't trade those can you?
That would be nice. Get a great yr out of Spencer then let him walk for big money somewhere else when he turns 30 and get an extra pick. Sounds nice to me!


It would depend on how much money he gets and how active Dallas is in FA. If he gets a Paul Kruger type contract and Dallas doesn't make any big signings, then yeah, a compensatory 2015 3rd round pick is a good bet. If one or both of those fails, then probably not.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 01, 2013 11:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A good article on Spencer:

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/why-anthony-spencer-most-overrated-player-dallas-cowboys-141900224.html

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There aren't many times that the Dallas Cowboys front office deserves a rousing ovation. Ending contract talks with Anthony Spencer a couple of days ago would be one of those rare times, and deservingly so.

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The situation with Spencer and the Cowboys would be much worse if he did get that huge payday. On a list of players who hasn't done merely enough to deserve a contract that pays around $8 million per year, Spencer would be on the top of that list.


The article basically says that Spencer is very overrated and not worth a lucrative deal because he never earned it. Much like I've said for a really long time. We definitely did the right thing by not giving him that undeserved extension.
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Justin Hoover82 wrote:
flyingmonkey30 wrote:
Fine with this. Let him play well again in a contract year, get a 3rd round pick as compensation


So if a team signs him next yr we get a 3rd rd pick given to us? It would be a compensation pick right? You can't trade those can you?
That would be nice. Get a great yr out of Spencer then let him walk for big money somewhere else when he turns 30 and get an extra pick. Sounds nice to me!


If we are not planning on re-signing Spencer after this season, I would prefer he split time with Wilber or Crawford. That way we can find out what we have in the young guys, before the draft.
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GeneralDissaray wrote:
Justin Hoover82 wrote:
flyingmonkey30 wrote:
Fine with this. Let him play well again in a contract year, get a 3rd round pick as compensation


So if a team signs him next yr we get a 3rd rd pick given to us? It would be a compensation pick right? You can't trade those can you?
That would be nice. Get a great yr out of Spencer then let him walk for big money somewhere else when he turns 30 and get an extra pick. Sounds nice to me!


If we are not planning on re-signing Spencer after this season, I would prefer he split time with Wilber or Crawford. That way we can find out what we have in the young guys, before the draft.


I'm sure those two will get plenty of playing time throughout the year.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 01, 2013 4:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Knew he would ask for $8M+ from the beginning. Dallas should have just let him walk and 3rd rd comp pick.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 01, 2013 4:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Knew he would ask for $8M+ from the beginning. Dallas should have just let him walk and 3rd rd comp pick.


And what would you have done started Ware and Crawford at DE, with not a single back up?

Which FA would you have signed or which rookie would you have drafted?

Don't sign this guy up longer term, but we are thin enough in this 4-3 transition. We need him to remain competitive this year, then we can work on rebuilding the DL.
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WizardHawk wrote:
Knew he would ask for $8M+ from the beginning. Dallas should have just let him walk and 3rd rd comp pick.


And what would you have done started Ware and Crawford at DE, with not a single back up?

Which FA would you have signed or which rookie would you have drafted?

Don't sign this guy up longer term, but we are thin enough in this 4-3 transition. We need him to remain competitive this year, then we can work on rebuilding the DL.


Saved the $10M - made a run a DTs Dorsey, Lee Hill and/or DEs Michael Bennett, Israel Idonije.
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WizardHawk wrote:
SHSTE92 wrote:
WizardHawk wrote:
Knew he would ask for $8M+ from the beginning. Dallas should have just let him walk and 3rd rd comp pick.


And what would you have done started Ware and Crawford at DE, with not a single back up?

Which FA would you have signed or which rookie would you have drafted?

Don't sign this guy up longer term, but we are thin enough in this 4-3 transition. We need him to remain competitive this year, then we can work on rebuilding the DL.


Saved the $10M - made a run a DTs Dorsey, Lee Hill and/or DEs Michael Bennett, Israel Idonije.


So leave us one legit star on the line and play with a bunch of cast offs? I have a feeling Spencer is going to have a huge year, and I just pray we walk away.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 01, 2013 9:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree with the majority - hope Spencer has a big year, but let him walk next year and get the comp pick. I'm glad the team didn't cave in and give Spencer a big contract when he'll be 30 next year.

And maybe Spencer has a big year but the team sucks and can draft Clowney. Razz
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