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PostPosted: Sun Nov 10, 2013 1:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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But I don't see any team that's realistically just a QB away from contending and therefore in position to give up multiple high picks.
I can think of a few.
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http://www.behindthesteelcurtain.com/2013/11/10/5087138/ben-roethlisberger-trade-news-request-update-status

Do you buy it?


Tampa needs to get on the phone fast. Get Big Ben, draft a stud at another position, sign a coach not named Greg Schiano, and go hard next year.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 10, 2013 1:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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ChazStandard wrote:
But I don't see any team that's realistically just a QB away from contending and therefore in position to give up multiple high picks.
I can think of a few.


Well...maybe the Rams, and they have multiples picks from the RG3 trade, but the whole way they've been building: drafting a strong D, trading back, that seems like a team not so much interested in winning now as they are in building something.

The Vikings and Bucs have issues on defense and on the o-line respectively.

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Tzimisce wrote:
ChazStandard wrote:
But I don't see any team that's realistically just a QB away from contending and therefore in position to give up multiple high picks.
I can think of a few.


Well...maybe the Rams, and they have multiples picks from the RG3 trade, but the whole way they've been building: drafting a strong D, trading back, that seems like a team not so much interested in winning now as they are in building something.

The Vikings and Bucs have issues on defense and on the o-line respectively.

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Arizona. Bruce Arians. And Palmer's contract is structured in such a way that they could easily cut him after this season.
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Tzimisce wrote:
ChazStandard wrote:
Tzimisce wrote:
ChazStandard wrote:
But I don't see any team that's realistically just a QB away from contending and therefore in position to give up multiple high picks.
I can think of a few.


Well...maybe the Rams, and they have multiples picks from the RG3 trade, but the whole way they've been building: drafting a strong D, trading back, that seems like a team not so much interested in winning now as they are in building something.

The Vikings and Bucs have issues on defense and on the o-line respectively.

Have I missed someone really obvious? Embarassed
Arizona. Bruce Arians. And Palmer's contract is structured in such a way that they could easily cut him after this season.


Oh...Arizona...yeah. That makes a lot of sense.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 10, 2013 4:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If we are talking next season who could use Big Ben; Arizona, Chicago, Kansas City, Houston.
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If we are talking next season who could use Big Ben; Arizona, Chicago, Kansas City, Houston.


Chicago is just better off re-signing Cutler.
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If we are talking next season who could use Big Ben; Arizona, Chicago, Kansas City, Houston.


Chicago is just better off re-signing Cutler.


Maybe, but I hear Trestman might want to pick his own guy. If I was the Bears, I would stick with Cutler just because he is the only QB that has made the most of Brandon Marshall's career and giving up assets for a high round rookie or Roethlisberger with the defense in decline would be foolish. But who knows, maybe Trestman has a Jon Gruden syndrome.
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cinci and clevelands are the most obvious locations for ben, but no way they would trade him in the division
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cinci and clevelands are the most obvious locations for ben, but no way they would trade him in the division


That's false. Cleveland isnt a QB away from anything. Josh Gordon still needs seasoning and the O-line and Defense still need work. Cinci isn't going to give up on Dalton so soon. Especially for an injury prone QB who would be but not by huge dividends be an improvement on Dalton. You would just rather see anyone else throwing to AJ Green.
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NextBigThing wrote:
cinci and clevelands are the most obvious locations for ben, but no way they would trade him in the division


That's false. Cleveland isnt a QB away from anything. Josh Gordon still needs seasoning and the O-line and Defense still need work. Cinci isn't going to give up on Dalton so soon. Especially for an injury prone QB who would be but not by huge dividends be an improvement on Dalton. You would just rather see anyone else throwing to AJ Green.


Agreed.

Bengals make no sense. I think the Browns are a little better than you're crediting them for, but not to the degree where Roethlisberger would instantly make them a Super Bowl contender.
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Big Ben on the Browns would make them the team to beat in that division for the foreseeable future, I think. Cinci is not winning anything with Dalton, anyone who watches the games knows he holds them back most of the time.

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Big Ben on the Browns would make them the team to beat in that division for the foreseeable future, I think. Cinci is not winning anything with Dalton, anyone who watches the games knows he holds them back most of the time.

Gordon Cameron Little Benjamin (next year)


Dalton hasn't held that team back this year. Their OL and IMO shaky playcalling has been way more to blame.
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Locker done for the year with a Lisfranc injury
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Big Ben on the Browns would make them the team to beat in that division for the foreseeable future, I think. Cinci is not winning anything with Dalton, anyone who watches the games knows he holds them back most of the time.

Gordon Cameron Little Benjamin (next year)


Dalton hasn't held that team back this year. Their OL and IMO shaky playcalling has been way more to blame.


Maybe against bad teams.

Big Ben to Green/Jones/Sanu/Gresham w/ that defense would win multiple rings, I honestly believe.
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