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PostPosted: Wed Jun 19, 2013 1:38 am    Post subject: Mingo- can his bite back up his bark? Reply with quote

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000213390/article/barkevious-mingo-browns-could-be-nfls-top-defense

Shocked

I love that he seems to like the defense, and I do think we will be much better this year with the guys we added, and with the addition of Horton - whom I really like--- I just hope he is a guy that backs him self up with his play on the field.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 19, 2013 10:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think our defense might be getting a little full of themselves
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 19, 2013 11:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Our defense has far too many question marks at this point.

-can Kruger prove he was worth the money and continue producing
-will DQwell show he can play at a high level in a 34
-will Robertson be able to transition
-can Sheard handle coverage responsibilities
-will we have a player worthy of the #2 cb spot
-can Gipson handle the starting FS gig
-can Ward stay healthy all year
-will Rubin and Taylor flourish in their new roles

A lot of potential but a lot of unknown. I feel better about this group knowing Horton is the DC but I think it's going to take some time before they start banging on all cylinders.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 19, 2013 11:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd rather them gi in having confidence in themselves than not
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 19, 2013 12:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dawgpoun8017 wrote:
I'd rather them gi in having confidence in themselves than not


Fair point


Though I do think we are getting ahead of ourselves.


What worries me is this...

It's gonna take a little time for it to come together.
We won't come out of the gate on fire defensively
I think somewhere in the middle of the season we could play well, but I fully expect Horton to take a HC job next season.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 19, 2013 1:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nugpimpen wrote:
Dawgpoun8017 wrote:
I'd rather them gi in having confidence in themselves than not


Fair point


Though I do think we are getting ahead of ourselves.


What worries me is this...

It's gonna take a little time for it to come together.
We won't come out of the gate on fire defensively
I think somewhere in the middle of the season we could play well, but I fully expect Horton to take a HC job next season.


All valid points, I just think Horton doesn't over complicate things in his defense. He lets the players let their talent take over and not over think things
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 21, 2013 10:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This guy needs to shut up period.
He is a college lb that has 5 sacks against a bunch of grocery store managers
in hotel clerks.
He is the the 6th overall pick that is currently on the second string of a last place team.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 21, 2013 10:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mtmmike wrote:
This guy needs to shut up period.
He is a college lb that has 5 sacks against a bunch of grocery store managers
in hotel clerks.
He is the the 6th overall pick that is currently on the second string of a last place team.


Que?


1. The SEC is top talent

2. He didn't say anything that I dislike

3. I wouldn't call him second string. He will have plenty of snaps and should be a huge contributor.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 21, 2013 1:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nugpimpen wrote:
mtmmike wrote:
This guy needs to shut up period.
He is a college lb that has 5 sacks against a bunch of grocery store managers
in hotel clerks.
He is the the 6th overall pick that is currently on the second string of a last place team.


Que?


1. The SEC is top talent

2. He didn't say anything that I dislike

3. I wouldn't call him second string. He will have plenty of snaps and should be a huge contributor.


I am just saying Walk the walk before you talk the talk
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 21, 2013 1:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mtmmike wrote:
nugpimpen wrote:
mtmmike wrote:
This guy needs to shut up period.
He is a college lb that has 5 sacks against a bunch of grocery store managers
in hotel clerks.
He is the the 6th overall pick that is currently on the second string of a last place team.


Que?


1. The SEC is top talent

2. He didn't say anything that I dislike

3. I wouldn't call him second string. He will have plenty of snaps and should be a huge contributor.


I am just saying Walk the walk before you talk the talk


Nothing wrong with having confidence. It's not like he's predicting a 20+ sac season and 5 super bowls.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 21, 2013 1:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like Mingo's confidence. Of course he's not going to say the defense isn't going to be good. He might genuinely feel that Cleveland's D will be the best, but that's because he's never played with other professional defenders around the league. When he's coming from the college ranks to a pro team, of course the talent around him is going to seem a lot better.

Anyway, I'm really curious to see how Cleveland's defense plays this year. There's a good amount of talent, but there's a lot of unproven talent. There's players who have proven to be good in the 4-3, but they haven't proven to be successful yet in the 3-4. There's also some obvious holes on defense, like at #2 CB, FS, ILB, but there's players at those positions who could prove to be legitimate starters but it's far from a sure thing.

If I had to guess, I would say the Browns likely finish around the middle of the pact statistically this year. I think the defense will have some really good games but they'll also have some games where they struggle somewhat. It's not realistic to expect them to play well every game when you consider the change in scheme and the fact that there's a lot of youth and inexperience on the team.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 21, 2013 2:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TJ Ward said the guys are already forming chemistry, all getting together on the weekends and stuf
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 22, 2013 3:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

buno67 wrote:
I think our defense might be getting a little full of themselves


I like it. I want a team of players that can talk the smack. We too often go for the nice guys and that hasn't done much.

Maybe we should hook up Mingo with Ray Lewis. Imagine the rep he would get if he "allegedly" killed someone.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 22, 2013 5:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mtmmike wrote:
a bunch of grocery store managers in hotel clerks.


saw that movie the other night
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 22, 2013 5:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BooyaCS wrote:
buno67 wrote:
I think our defense might be getting a little full of themselves


I like it. I want a team of players that can talk the smack. We too often go for the nice guys and that hasn't done much.


I love guys who can talk some smack but back it up. Thats called confidence.

Talking smack and having nothing to back it up to be is being cocky. To me cocky is the feeling you get before you get hit in the mouth.

I would love it if he was saying this after a full padded team sessions or the defense looked good in a preseason, giving some reason to his high confidence in the defense.

I would love a team full of smack talkers who can back it up...

you talk smack and than get your whooped just makes you look stupid
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