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Retire it?
Yes
65%
 65%  [ 40 ]
No
3%
 3%  [ 2 ]
In 20 Years
14%
 14%  [ 9 ]
NEVER
16%
 16%  [ 10 ]
Total Votes : 61

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PostPosted: Fri May 24, 2013 4:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

paul-mac wrote:



Yep.
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PostPosted: Fri May 24, 2013 4:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anytime in the next 5 years would be appropriate for his number to be retired. Favre is a legend and deserves that.

What happened happened, there's literally no reason to carry any remorse over the situation from years ago. Two people didn't play a situation perfect and the fans are still sore. Time to move on folks. Lets not forget all the great things that dude did for GB and not let a couple angry attempts to stick it to TT affect of affection for him, I mean he is a football player, he should have that mentality if he was upset.
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PostPosted: Fri May 24, 2013 5:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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So you run a guy out of town then get mad at him for defecting to Minnesota?


I actually laughed out loud.
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PostPosted: Fri May 24, 2013 5:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

paul-mac wrote:
So you run a guy out of town then get mad at him for defecting to Minnesota?


My guess is that you haven't followed the whole Favre saga nearly as much as we have.

After Brett Favre flip flopped more than a politician, Mike McCarthy and Ted Thompson said they were going to have an open quarterback competition for the starting QB gig in 2008 season, which Favre objected to. At that point, Favre asked for an unconditional release, something Ted Thompson was unwilling to do since it meant that Favre would almost certainly end up with Minnesota. And why would the Packers allow Favre to go to a divisional rival? So they traded him to the Jets, the only serious suitor that was in the other conference.

It's not that he wanted out of Green Bay, it's the way he went about it. He looked like a six year old that had a vendetta against the organization that had given up a whole lot about a decade and a half before.
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PostPosted: Sat May 25, 2013 7:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

MNPackfan32 wrote:
spilltray wrote:
paul-mac wrote:
So you run a guy out of town then get mad at him for defecting to Minnesota?


Run a guy out of town? Really?

He QUIT. He RETIRED. After 4 years of talking about it and taking his sweet time to "decide" each offseason, he QUIT and the team moved on. They sent him to a new team, just NO ONE wants their old franchise QB on a division rival. He manipulated the situation, faking another retirement to get out of the NY Jets, to get to the Vikings which he admitted in SI was in part just because he wanted to stick it to the Packers. You can't do that without the fans getting caught in the middle, something he has shown no remorse for. Had Favre stayed in NY or actually retired, there would be alot less resentment. The fact that he felt the need to go out of his way for revenge against that same team that gave him a shot in the first place, made him one of the richest players in the NFL, heck even gave him his own private dressing room for years, burns all bridges and negates a huge part of his legacy to that team and community.

Favre ran HIMSELF out of town thinking he could dictate his terms to the team and that they should be OK with that. That's not how the NFL works, I don't care if you are Brett Favre or not.
So much this! Favre is the one who gave it all away and cried when we wouldn't hand him his old job back on a silver platter and screw Rodgers over. The comment about us running him out of town is pure ignorance.


Unfortunately a lot of Favre fans and fans of other NFL teams truly think that and don't know all the facts.
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PostPosted: Sat May 25, 2013 7:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The reason I chose BartStarving as a pseudo was to combine Bart Starr with Brett Favre. That's how much I loved the guy. As for now and the question at hand, the retirement of #4, I believe it was Hawkeye Pierce of M*A*S*H who said, "The instrument has yet to be devised that can measure my indifference to that". I frankly could care less about anything to do with Favre. It's not Twisted Evil , it's just plain Rolling Eyes .
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PostPosted: Sat May 25, 2013 1:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anyone else think this article is about Favre?


Zen and the Art of Professional Football
Royce V. Malphrus, PhD
Published: Spring 2012
Source: Biofeedback Magazine

Approximately six years ago I had the opportunity of
working with a National Football League quarterback who
had begun to develop significant anxiety just prior to the
season, particularly in camp. He identified issues with his
father regarding perfectionism and reported that he never
felt able to please his father. His self-talk was laden with
messages such as ‘‘this play is a season maker or breaker.’’
Such messages exacerbated his anxiety, resulting in sweaty
hands and fingers, which affected his ability to pass,
resulting in over- or underthrown passes.

I assisted him with modifying self-talk, with some
success. I taught him diaphragmatic breathing at the rate
of six breaths per minute. When I got the chance to meet
with him in person, I used heart rate variability training to
help further reduce his over-arousal symptoms and significant
anxiety. I conducted five telephone sessions with him
and three in person. I knew he was improving when he began
having fun with football again. His game was significantly
improved to the point of retiring while ‘‘on top of his game.’’

I also provided him with several educational CDs with
affirmations, self-hypnosis, and other approaches to
support continued practice in calming, control, and feeling
good. He especially liked the CD I provided on Zen
practices.
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PostPosted: Sat May 25, 2013 2:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

HokieHigh wrote:
Anyone else think this article is about Favre?


Zen and the Art of Professional Football
Royce V. Malphrus, PhD
Published: Spring 2012
Source: Biofeedback Magazine

Approximately six years ago I had the opportunity of
working with a National Football League quarterback who
had begun to develop significant anxiety just prior to the
season, particularly in camp. He identified issues with his
father regarding perfectionism and reported that he never
felt able to please his father. His self-talk was laden with
messages such as ‘‘this play is a season maker or breaker.’’
Such messages exacerbated his anxiety, resulting in sweaty
hands and fingers, which affected his ability to pass,
resulting in over- or underthrown passes.

I assisted him with modifying self-talk, with some
success. I taught him diaphragmatic breathing at the rate
of six breaths per minute. When I got the chance to meet
with him in person, I used heart rate variability training to
help further reduce his over-arousal symptoms and significant
anxiety. I conducted five telephone sessions with him
and three in person. I knew he was improving when he began
having fun with football again. His game was significantly
improved to the point of retiring while ‘‘on top of his game.’’

I also provided him with several educational CDs with
affirmations, self-hypnosis, and other approaches to
support continued practice in calming, control, and feeling
good. He especially liked the CD I provided on Zen
practices.


I doubt Favre had those daddy issues, I recall him talking about how Marinovich's father pushed him too hard then it all crumbled.

I don't know a lot about these guys' personal lives, but the type of play that was described could be a number of guys. And Favre could fit too. I'm thinking: Kurt Warner, Mark Brunell, Rex Grossman and Donovan McNabb.

[edit] Brunell is probably out. He had his last hurrah in 05, then was a back-up. Warner and Favre both picked their games up from 06 until they retired.
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PostPosted: Sat May 25, 2013 2:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

packerfanman4 wrote:
paul-mac wrote:
So you run a guy out of town then get mad at him for defecting to Minnesota?


I actually laughed out loud.



This. I was mad at the time but after seeing how it all unfolded, all I can do is laugh. Not only did we get to see him throw a game sealing interception in a big game as he did for us all those years, we got a crocs pic as well. Win win.
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PostPosted: Sat May 25, 2013 3:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ugLymayNe wrote:
packerfanman4 wrote:
paul-mac wrote:
So you run a guy out of town then get mad at him for defecting to Minnesota?


I actually laughed out loud.



This. I was mad at the time but after seeing how it all unfolded, all I can do is laugh. Not only did we get to see him throw a game sealing interception in a big game as he did for us all those years, we got a crocs pic as well. Win win.


I would feel much more bitter about the situation had he won a superbowl in Minnesota, no doubt about that.

At the end of the day, he wasted 2 years of Adrian Peterson's career and served as a launchpad for the GOAT at QB.

If anyone deserves to be bitter about the situation is Arod. And He isn't. He used it en route to becoming the GOAT and clearly thinks it is time to move on.
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PostPosted: Sat May 25, 2013 3:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

honestly surprised how this poll is turning out

can't believe so many people want his number retired


we don't owe him anything
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PostPosted: Sat May 25, 2013 3:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As for the whole number retirement thing, I'm fine with it, conditionally. Either Favre needs to make SOME sort of admission of fault, or let it wait until TT, MM, and Rodgers are all gone. I would hate it if the Packers set up a nice retirement ceremony only to give Favre yet another chance to give the team the middle finger. If he has no interest in repairing bridges, then why "honor" him at all?
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PostPosted: Sat May 25, 2013 3:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

IrishGreen wrote:
honestly surprised how this poll is turning out

can't believe so many people want his number retired


we don't owe him anything


Lolz... so jaded.

This thread is really making me second guess my packer fan brethren. Confused Rolling Eyes Sad
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PostPosted: Sat May 25, 2013 3:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

IrishGreen wrote:
honestly surprised how this poll is turning out

can't believe so many people want his number retired


we don't owe him anything
The general consensus is probably closer to "Get it over with so we can stop talking about it and just regret it already"
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PostPosted: Sat May 25, 2013 10:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

IrishGreen wrote:
honestly surprised how this poll is turning out

can't believe so many people want his number retired


we don't owe him anything


I disagree. I was just as upset as anyone was when that whole thing went down in '08. The combination of time passed and the fact that we won the Super Bowl shortly after (and he didn't) helped me "let go" of the anger. I've been thinking lately of how the situation has made the Aaron Rodgers story one of the most amazing things I've witnessed in sports. From not getting a D-1 scholarship offer to falling in the draft to sitting behind Favre for 3 years to being booed at "Family Night" to winning a SB and becoming the best player in the NFL. Unbelievable. The Brett Favre/Aaron Rodgers "legend" will go down in Packers lore long after we are all gone from this world. And we got to witness it! I am fully aware that Favre didn't want it to end this way (Rodgers being looked at as better than him), but that's the way it ended up. It seems as if #12 has forgiven, I can too.
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