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PostPosted: Sat May 25, 2013 5:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just watched the All-22 on Fleming vs the Patriots. In a word...Impressive.

19 Man Coverage snaps. He allowed 1 catch in man coverage.

Of those 19 snaps, 12 of them he was in position to make a play on the ball (generally within about an arms length of his man). On four of them he was "shutdown" basically any throw his way is not going to be completed. Only 3 failed coverages. And they were not bad "failed" coverages either.

Overall, just a really, really impressive game for Fleming.
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PostPosted: Sat May 25, 2013 9:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

khodder wrote:
Just watched the All-22 on Fleming vs the Patriots. In a word...Impressive.

19 Man Coverage snaps. He allowed 1 catch in man coverage.

Of those 19 snaps, 12 of them he was in position to make a play on the ball (generally within about an arms length of his man). On four of them he was "shutdown" basically any throw his way is not going to be completed. Only 3 failed coverages. And they were not bad "failed" coverages either.

Overall, just a really, really impressive game for Fleming.


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PostPosted: Sat May 25, 2013 1:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How did he play outside of the Patriots game.
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PostPosted: Sat May 25, 2013 3:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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How did he play outside of the Patriots game.


I have not looked yet. Will look at games he played a good number of snaps in (Mostly when Toler was injured)

78 of his 270 defensive snaps came vs the Patriots.

Next up is likely to be Week 3 vs Philly (48 def snaps) then Week 6 vs Buffalo (58 def snaps)

That will mean I have seen 184/270 of his defensive snaps in 2012.
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PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2013 12:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Through two games each on All-22. Man coverage snaps only;

Jerraud Powers, 38 snaps, 4 "Shutdown", 15 "Failed Coverage", 19 "In Position.

Jamell Fleming, 36 snaps, 6 "Shutdown", 7 "Failed Coverage", 23 "In Position".

Definitions of Shutdown, In Position and Failed Coverage can be found here
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PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2013 3:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

khodder wrote:
Through two games each on All-22. Man coverage snaps only;

Jerraud Powers, 38 snaps, 4 "Shutdown", 15 "Failed Coverage", 19 "In Position.

Jamell Fleming, 36 snaps, 6 "Shutdown", 7 "Failed Coverage", 23 "In Position".

Definitions of Shutdown, In Position and Failed Coverage can be found here


Makes you wonder what he is doing off the field since his play seems good enough to give consideration to start.
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younggun1273 wrote:
khodder wrote:
Through two games each on All-22. Man coverage snaps only;

Jerraud Powers, 38 snaps, 4 "Shutdown", 15 "Failed Coverage", 19 "In Position.

Jamell Fleming, 36 snaps, 6 "Shutdown", 7 "Failed Coverage", 23 "In Position".

Definitions of Shutdown, In Position and Failed Coverage can be found here


Makes you wonder what he is doing off the field since his play seems good enough to give consideration to start.


And whatever it is it seems to have followed him through to this season as well, he is behind a lot of players he should not be. Working on the 2nd field while the likes of Powers/Cason/Bethel work on the 1st field.

Fleming played 279 defensive snaps in the first nine games of the season and 1 over the final 7.

Most of that can be attributed to Greg Toler coming back from injury. But at one stage he was surpassed by Justin Bethel.

There is something behind this, and I would LOVE to know what it was.
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PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2013 10:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are too many corners on the team which isnt a bad thing. PP is obviously starting. Powers, Cason, and Arenas were offseason acquisitions. Fleming and Bethel 2nd yrs. Usually a team keeps 5 CB's, so likely one of the 6 will be let go. In my opinion, Fleming cant be given up on, its too early. Apparently, Bethel is looking very good too (and he has ST value), so it will be a difficult decision
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There are too many corners on the team which isnt a bad thing. PP is obviously starting. Powers, Cason, and Arenas were offseason acquisitions. Fleming and Bethel 2nd yrs. Usually a team keeps 5 CB's, so likely one of the 6 will be let go. In my opinion, Fleming cant be given up on, its too early. Apparently, Bethel is looking very good too (and he has ST value), so it will be a difficult decision


If it were my choice based off of 2012 season/age/special teams ability/versatility the odd man out would have to be Cason. Had a poor 2012 year, if one of the older ones in this group, has no special teams experience and is purely an outside CB.

Bethel/Fleming/Arenas all provide big value on ST's and Fleming/Arenas are both very handy cover corners. Arenas could be of very good value to us as a slot corner and Fleming, from what I have seen, was a more impressive outside corner than Powers in 2012.
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PostPosted: Mon May 27, 2013 12:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

khodder wrote:
AZPSquared wrote:
There are too many corners on the team which isnt a bad thing. PP is obviously starting. Powers, Cason, and Arenas were offseason acquisitions. Fleming and Bethel 2nd yrs. Usually a team keeps 5 CB's, so likely one of the 6 will be let go. In my opinion, Fleming cant be given up on, its too early. Apparently, Bethel is looking very good too (and he has ST value), so it will be a difficult decision


If it were my choice based off of 2012 season/age/special teams ability/versatility the odd man out would have to be Cason. Had a poor 2012 year, if one of the older ones in this group, has no special teams experience and is purely an outside CB.

Bethel/Fleming/Arenas all provide big value on ST's and Fleming/Arenas are both very handy cover corners. Arenas could be of very good value to us as a slot corner and Fleming, from what I have seen, was a more impressive outside corner than Powers in 2012.


Decision could also involve who is playing at Safety, right now it is Johnson, Bell, and Mathieu and some UDFA and other camp bodies. Depending on how Bowles runs the D maybe they carry just 3 safeties and 6 cbs. Just a thought
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I was about to ask if you think Cason could play safety
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love2theOLINE wrote:
Decision could also involve who is playing at Safety, right now it is Johnson, Bell, and Mathieu and some UDFA and other camp bodies. Depending on how Bowles runs the D maybe they carry just 3 safeties and 6 cbs. Just a thought


I think we are more likely to carry more safeties rather than less. With the versatility of Mathieu who is going to see time as a nickel back as well as at safety I don't think we go into the season with less than four safeties on the roster and that will likely include a slash guy like Mathieu

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I was about to ask if you think Cason could play safety


No. He lacks the awareness and mental aptitude to play safety especially if he is going to be responsible for a deep half or deep third in zone.
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PostPosted: Mon May 27, 2013 10:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

khodder wrote:
younggun1273 wrote:
khodder wrote:
Through two games each on All-22. Man coverage snaps only;

Jerraud Powers, 38 snaps, 4 "Shutdown", 15 "Failed Coverage", 19 "In Position.

Jamell Fleming, 36 snaps, 6 "Shutdown", 7 "Failed Coverage", 23 "In Position".

Definitions of Shutdown, In Position and Failed Coverage can be found here


Makes you wonder what he is doing off the field since his play seems good enough to give consideration to start.


And whatever it is it seems to have followed him through to this season as well, he is behind a lot of players he should not be. Working on the 2nd field while the likes of Powers/Cason/Bethel work on the 1st field.

Fleming played 279 defensive snaps in the first nine games of the season and 1 over the final 7.

Most of that can be attributed to Greg Toler coming back from injury. But at one stage he was surpassed by Justin Bethel.

There is something behind this, and I would LOVE to know what it was.


Fleming had to take a semester off at OU for "personal reasons". Not sure if these personal reasons are related to his lack of play time for the cards.
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mtdowner wrote:
khodder wrote:
younggun1273 wrote:
khodder wrote:
Through two games each on All-22. Man coverage snaps only;

Jerraud Powers, 38 snaps, 4 "Shutdown", 15 "Failed Coverage", 19 "In Position.

Jamell Fleming, 36 snaps, 6 "Shutdown", 7 "Failed Coverage", 23 "In Position".

Definitions of Shutdown, In Position and Failed Coverage can be found here


Makes you wonder what he is doing off the field since his play seems good enough to give consideration to start.


And whatever it is it seems to have followed him through to this season as well, he is behind a lot of players he should not be. Working on the 2nd field while the likes of Powers/Cason/Bethel work on the 1st field.

Fleming played 279 defensive snaps in the first nine games of the season and 1 over the final 7.

Most of that can be attributed to Greg Toler coming back from injury. But at one stage he was surpassed by Justin Bethel.

There is something behind this, and I would LOVE to know what it was.


Fleming had to take a semester off at OU for "personal reasons". Not sure if these personal reasons are related to his lack of play time for the cards.


I was just interested to see if they could've been academic, I think I found his wonderlic score to be 3.9, which is rather terrible. And after further research it was academic
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LuckyNumber11 wrote:
mtdowner wrote:
khodder wrote:
younggun1273 wrote:
khodder wrote:
Through two games each on All-22. Man coverage snaps only;

Jerraud Powers, 38 snaps, 4 "Shutdown", 15 "Failed Coverage", 19 "In Position.

Jamell Fleming, 36 snaps, 6 "Shutdown", 7 "Failed Coverage", 23 "In Position".

Definitions of Shutdown, In Position and Failed Coverage can be found here


Makes you wonder what he is doing off the field since his play seems good enough to give consideration to start.


And whatever it is it seems to have followed him through to this season as well, he is behind a lot of players he should not be. Working on the 2nd field while the likes of Powers/Cason/Bethel work on the 1st field.

Fleming played 279 defensive snaps in the first nine games of the season and 1 over the final 7.

Most of that can be attributed to Greg Toler coming back from injury. But at one stage he was surpassed by Justin Bethel.

There is something behind this, and I would LOVE to know what it was.


Fleming had to take a semester off at OU for "personal reasons". Not sure if these personal reasons are related to his lack of play time for the cards.


I was just interested to see if they could've been academic, I think I found his wonderlic score to be 3.9, which is rather terrible. And after further research it was academic


I just looked into it a little more and he was suspended for cheating. But Bob Stoops said it was a personal matter.
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