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PostPosted: Tue May 21, 2013 11:11 pm    Post subject: What do we really know about Greg Olsen? Reply with quote

Hey guys, new member in the house, just wanted to get your opinion on what your expectations are on OC Greg Olsen and the philosophy he runs. All off-season the focus has mainly been on the draft and what we expect from the defense, but what i rarely see is an honest conversation on the expectations of our new OC. Does anyone really know anything about him? have you seen his play-calling? tendencies? does he adjust? anything....???

I read a pretty interesting (old) article on him to try and build an image of what to expect but i was left with more questions...

hears the link [http://raidernationtimes.com/article.php?id=9561]

but yeah, again, what do you expect from him? and if he fails or does good would that affect your view on how the organization is running? (allen/Mcken)
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PostPosted: Wed May 22, 2013 12:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't think many of us know much about Olsen. If he proves to be a mistake, I think DAs a goner. As long as he can play to our offenses strengths by putting our weapons in a position to make plays, he'll be fine. I'm sure Dennis Allen is more interested in results then forcing a scheme like last season.
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PostPosted: Wed May 22, 2013 12:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

He was in Tampa and Carolina. All i can really remember reading after the initial hire is that while he was in Tampa he managed to get a lot out of Mike Williams and Freeman. Good sign for Rod Streater? Carolina though seems more of a zone running teams so im not sure what he'll be able to take out of his time there.

Thanks to Hue we know what makes DMC a beast for the 10 games he will be healthy for. Our passing game though, he can play with that. No more CP forcing the ball deep to DHB and Moore. We don't have a guy like Freeman or even Cam so its just really hard to tell. based off our roster now I see a lot of the intermediate stuff with the shot down field with Jacoby and Moore every once in a great while. I hope he can find a way to get Criner going in the red zone and hella bubble screens to Ford!
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PostPosted: Wed May 22, 2013 4:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

From the interviews and links posted immediately after Olsen's hire (sorry can't find the links now), I remember him specifically being viewed as a guy who adapts his gameplan to the players strengths and weaknesses rather than being a scheme specific type of guy like Knapp. We are clearly going back to the PBS primarily but we keep hearing mentions of the WCO and with Flynn at QB you would probably say he is most comfortable with that type of game. Short and intermediate pass routes and ball control running i would think will be our MO.

I remember him being credited with bringing some good play out of Blount and Freeman at Tampa, nothing else really stands out so it's another under the radad type signing by Reggie.
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PostPosted: Wed May 22, 2013 6:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tony Sparano is the one going to be in charge of the offense.
He has the title of assistant head coach. He was handpicked by Bill Parcells to be the coach of the Miami Dolphins.
When he was assistant head coach for the Dallas Cowboys they won the NFC East and had a record of 13-3.
When he took over Miami they were 1-15 the next year they won 11 games.
The next two years he was 7-9 and then the team fell apart and he was fired.
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PostPosted: Wed May 22, 2013 7:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bitty wrote:
Tony Sparano is the one going to be in charge of the offense.
He has the title of assistant head coach. He was handpicked by Bill Parcells to be the coach of the Miami Dolphins.
When he was assistant head coach for the Dallas Cowboys they won the NFC East and had a record of 13-3.
When he took over Miami they were 1-15 the next year they won 11 games.
The next two years he was 7-9 and then the team fell apart and he was fired.


I may be wrong but I thought the 'Assistant HC' title was afforded to Sparano to facilitate his move here, as in it was technically a promotion so Miami had to release him, though in reality he is our OL coach???
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PostPosted: Wed May 22, 2013 7:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Olsen talks a good game and is saying all the right things. the proof is in the pudding tho.
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PostPosted: Wed May 22, 2013 8:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Darbsk wrote:
bitty wrote:
Tony Sparano is the one going to be in charge of the offense.
He has the title of assistant head coach. He was handpicked by Bill Parcells to be the coach of the Miami Dolphins.
When he was assistant head coach for the Dallas Cowboys they won the NFC East and had a record of 13-3.
When he took over Miami they were 1-15 the next year they won 11 games.
The next two years he was 7-9 and then the team fell apart and he was fired.


I may be wrong but I thought the 'Assistant HC' title was afforded to Sparano to facilitate his move here, as in it was technically a promotion so Miami had to release him, though in reality he is our OL coach???


He was fired by the Jets last year. He was a FA coach. He is a Bill Parcells,Marty Schottenheimer disciple. Power football and discipline.
Just what the Raiders need.
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PostPosted: Wed May 22, 2013 8:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bitty wrote:
Darbsk wrote:
bitty wrote:
Tony Sparano is the one going to be in charge of the offense.
He has the title of assistant head coach. He was handpicked by Bill Parcells to be the coach of the Miami Dolphins.
When he was assistant head coach for the Dallas Cowboys they won the NFC East and had a record of 13-3.
When he took over Miami they were 1-15 the next year they won 11 games.
The next two years he was 7-9 and then the team fell apart and he was fired.


I may be wrong but I thought the 'Assistant HC' title was afforded to Sparano to facilitate his move here, as in it was technically a promotion so Miami had to release him, though in reality he is our OL coach???


He was fired by the Jets last year. He was a FA coach. He is a Bill Parcells,Marty Schottenheimer disciple. Power football and discipline.
Just what the Raiders need.


You are quite right Bitty he was a free agent. I just re-read the news feeds from his signing and it seems the assistant HC title is a caveat that the Raiders and/or Sparano had put in to prevent teams stealing him from us without offering a better position. Basically so he can leave for a full HC job not an OC job unless we release him.

I can't see Sparano calling plays howevere as that seems to be a weak point of his, I'm sure he will help with the game planning and just add experience for both Olsen and Allen though.

Totally agree with you Bitty that power football and disciplined football is just what we need Very Happy
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PostPosted: Wed May 22, 2013 9:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Darbsk wrote:
bitty wrote:
Darbsk wrote:
bitty wrote:
Tony Sparano is the one going to be in charge of the offense.
He has the title of assistant head coach. He was handpicked by Bill Parcells to be the coach of the Miami Dolphins.
When he was assistant head coach for the Dallas Cowboys they won the NFC East and had a record of 13-3.
When he took over Miami they were 1-15 the next year they won 11 games.
The next two years he was 7-9 and then the team fell apart and he was fired.


I may be wrong but I thought the 'Assistant HC' title was afforded to Sparano to facilitate his move here, as in it was technically a promotion so Miami had to release him, though in reality he is our OL coach???


He was fired by the Jets last year. He was a FA coach. He is a Bill Parcells,Marty Schottenheimer disciple. Power football and discipline.
Just what the Raiders need.


You are quite right Bitty he was a free agent. I just re-read the news feeds from his signing and it seems the assistant HC title is a caveat that the Raiders and/or Sparano had put in to prevent teams stealing him from us without offering a better position. Basically so he can leave for a full HC job not an OC job unless we release him.

I can't see Sparano calling plays howevere as that seems to be a weak point of his, I'm sure he will help with the game planning and just add experience for both Olsen and Allen though.

Totally agree with you Bitty that power football and disciplined football is just what we need Very Happy


I don't think he will call plays either.
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His name is Olson. Like said already, he doesn't have a specific scheme or tendencies. He schemes around the strengths and weaknesses of his roster. IIRC, he had success with the running game and the red zone offense whenever he was the OC. He's calling the plays, not Sparano.
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oakdb36 wrote:
His name is Olson. Like said already, he doesn't have a specific scheme or tendencies. He schemes around the strengths and weaknesses of his roster. IIRC, he had success with the running game and the red zone offense whenever he was the OC. He's calling the plays, not Sparano.


This.

Olson is known as a guy who gets the ball in his playmakers hands. He doesn't need an elite TE for example, but when he had Winslow he got him the ball.

IMO, he's going to work the offense to make sure DMAC gets his touches as well as Reece and Ford who have ability to make big plays.
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Positives

- He schemes around the talent on the team. He puts his players in the best positions to have successes. Raiders are returning to a PBS because Olson sees that's what best for the team unlike Knapp.

- Olson is influenced by Jon Gruden. Greg Olson prefers more of a WCO, he loves quick passes, slants, screens... Something that really favors Matt Flynn.. He's a great fit for this off-season.

- Has a history of always having good RBs, Steven Jackson enjoyed great seasons under Olson and Blount had a 1,000 season as an undrafted rookie in 2010 with the Bucs.

- A young Bucs team went 10-6 in 2010 with Olson as OC



Negatives

- Has only been apart of 2 winning team his whole career

- As an OC his teams only average 15.3 points per game, worse than Greg Knapp.

- Doesn't have a ton of OC experience.

- Can't seem to hang onto a job for very long.
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big_palooka wrote:
oakdb36 wrote:
His name is Olson. Like said already, he doesn't have a specific scheme or tendencies. He schemes around the strengths and weaknesses of his roster. IIRC, he had success with the running game and the red zone offense whenever he was the OC. He's calling the plays, not Sparano.


This.

Olson is known as a guy who gets the ball in his playmakers hands. He doesn't need an elite TE for example, but when he had Winslow he got him the ball.

IMO, he's going to work the offense to make sure DMAC gets his touches as well as Reece and Ford who have ability to make big plays.


I think most OCs think and talk this way. We'll see if he actually comes through. He doesn't have much film to work with from last seasons disaster, but maybe he can check out the 2 seasons prior
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Darkness wrote:
big_palooka wrote:
oakdb36 wrote:
His name is Olson. Like said already, he doesn't have a specific scheme or tendencies. He schemes around the strengths and weaknesses of his roster. IIRC, he had success with the running game and the red zone offense whenever he was the OC. He's calling the plays, not Sparano.


This.

Olson is known as a guy who gets the ball in his playmakers hands. He doesn't need an elite TE for example, but when he had Winslow he got him the ball.

IMO, he's going to work the offense to make sure DMAC gets his touches as well as Reece and Ford who have ability to make big plays.


I think most OCs think and talk this way. We'll see if he actually comes through. He doesn't have much film to work with from last seasons disaster, but maybe he can check out the 2 seasons prior


It's pretty obvious IMO for him. Get the ball to McFadden and let him get downhill. Not running sideline to sideline.

He can see Reece is a pass catcher as well. Ford if memory serves was suppose to be a big part of last years offense before the injury. Hopefully he can get back to form.
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