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Packer fan--

Temper your expectations here. Woodson is going to keep those around him playing their best. But he has lost more than one step. He is a liability in coverage, but a beast by scrimmage and his intelligence is going to have the entire secondary playing heads up, no blown coverage defense. All of those young players will get better because of this.

And Big Reggie clearly made a very nice PR move here. Your all excited. And you should be. But Woodson should be nothing more than a nickel corner. Safety didn't work very well for him.
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Packer fan--

Temper your expectations here. Woodson is going to keep those around him playing their best. But he has lost more than one step. He is a liability in coverage, but a beast by scrimmage and his intelligence is going to have the entire secondary playing heads up, no blown coverage defense. All of those young players will get better because of this.

And Big Reggie clearly made a very nice PR move here. Your all excited. And you should be. But Woodson should be nothing more than a nickel corner. Safety didn't work very well for him.


What did Santana Dotson mean in your quote? I want to know what that meant...
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Packer fan--

Temper your expectations here. Woodson is going to keep those around him playing their best. But he has lost more than one step. He is a liability in coverage, but a beast by scrimmage and his intelligence is going to have the entire secondary playing heads up, no blown coverage defense. All of those young players will get better because of this.

And Big Reggie clearly made a very nice PR move here. Your all excited. And you should be. But Woodson should be nothing more than a nickel corner. Safety didn't work very well for him.


People put too much into "leadership" and "mentoring". I think mot people are glad he's back solely for the reason of who he is. I want the most talented football players in the league on my teams. I just hope he can somewhat resemble that.
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ChaRisMa wrote:
Packer fan--

Temper your expectations here. Woodson is going to keep those around him playing their best. But he has lost more than one step. He is a liability in coverage, but a beast by scrimmage and his intelligence is going to have the entire secondary playing heads up, no blown coverage defense. All of those young players will get better because of this.

And Big Reggie clearly made a very nice PR move here. Your all excited. And you should be. But Woodson should be nothing more than a nickel corner. Safety didn't work very well for him.


People put too much into "leadership" and "mentoring". I think mot people are glad he's back solely for the reason of who he is. I want the most talented football players in the league on my teams. I just hope he can somewhat resemble that.


unfortunately, we can't have the most talented players in the league at every position. There are 31 other teams that are trying to get the same thing.

What you can do, in FA is improve your roster to get more talented at a position, and that is what we did. Woodson is a better player or at least on par with Young or Ross.

Then when you see that he is on par/ maybe better, you can also add to the fact he is one of the best in the game at understanding Defence as a whole. He will be able to keep our D in check, limit blown coverages ect.

Say what you want about mentoring, and leadership being overrated.. But you show me any top 5-10 D, and I will show you one or multiple leaders on it, who the rest of the D build off of. Our D the last few years leaders have been TKO, Seymour, McClain, Morrison? I dont know why, and I dont think its a stretch to say that is part of the reason weve been so bad.

Coaches in theory should be that leader I agree, but when you see it coming from another player, it has a bigger effect then coming from the coach.
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JTagg7754 wrote:
ChaRisMa wrote:
Packer fan--

Temper your expectations here. Woodson is going to keep those around him playing their best. But he has lost more than one step. He is a liability in coverage, but a beast by scrimmage and his intelligence is going to have the entire secondary playing heads up, no blown coverage defense. All of those young players will get better because of this.

And Big Reggie clearly made a very nice PR move here. Your all excited. And you should be. But Woodson should be nothing more than a nickel corner. Safety didn't work very well for him.


People put too much into "leadership" and "mentoring". I think mot people are glad he's back solely for the reason of who he is. I want the most talented football players in the league on my teams. I just hope he can somewhat resemble that.


unfortunately, we can't have the most talented players in the league at every position. There are 31 other teams that are trying to get the same thing.

What you can do, in FA is improve your roster to get more talented at a position, and that is what we did. Woodson is a better player or at least on par with Young or Ross.

Then when you see that he is on par/ maybe better, you can also add to the fact he is one of the best in the game at understanding Defence as a whole. He will be able to keep our D in check, limit blown coverages ect.

Say what you want about mentoring, and leadership being overrated.. But you show me any top 5-10 D, and I will show you one or multiple leaders on it, who the rest of the D build off of. Our D the last few years leaders have been TKO, Seymour, McClain, Morrison? I dont know why, and I dont think its a stretch to say that is part of the reason weve been so bad.

Coaches in theory should be that leader I agree, but when you see it coming from another player, it has a bigger effect then coming from the coach.


We'll see. I'm not expecting much from him this year except making our fans school girlish and putting some butts in the stands. That's really about it. Hopefully he proves me wrong but not many 37 y/os will. Here's to hoping though....
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JTagg7754 wrote:
dmac505 wrote:
JTagg7754 wrote:
ChaRisMa wrote:
Packer fan--

Temper your expectations here. Woodson is going to keep those around him playing their best. But he has lost more than one step. He is a liability in coverage, but a beast by scrimmage and his intelligence is going to have the entire secondary playing heads up, no blown coverage defense. All of those young players will get better because of this.

And Big Reggie clearly made a very nice PR move here. Your all excited. And you should be. But Woodson should be nothing more than a nickel corner. Safety didn't work very well for him.


People put too much into "leadership" and "mentoring". I think mot people are glad he's back solely for the reason of who he is. I want the most talented football players in the league on my teams. I just hope he can somewhat resemble that.


unfortunately, we can't have the most talented players in the league at every position. There are 31 other teams that are trying to get the same thing.

What you can do, in FA is improve your roster to get more talented at a position, and that is what we did. Woodson is a better player or at least on par with Young or Ross.

Then when you see that he is on par/ maybe better, you can also add to the fact he is one of the best in the game at understanding Defence as a whole. He will be able to keep our D in check, limit blown coverages ect.

Say what you want about mentoring, and leadership being overrated.. But you show me any top 5-10 D, and I will show you one or multiple leaders on it, who the rest of the D build off of. Our D the last few years leaders have been TKO, Seymour, McClain, Morrison? I dont know why, and I dont think its a stretch to say that is part of the reason weve been so bad.

Coaches in theory should be that leader I agree, but when you see it coming from another player, it has a bigger effect then coming from the coach.


We'll see. I'm not expecting much from him this year except making our fans school girlish and putting some butts in the stands. That's really about it. Hopefully he proves me wrong but not many 37 y/os will. Here's to hoping though....


yea fair, I definitely am not expecting him to be a probowl player or anything, just an improvement over what we already had.

But Ill admit it was definitely a PR move for RM and Mark Davis, they know we are rebuilding and that a lot of fans will not buy tickets when we are losing... this is an easy way to keep the fans happy, and it may benefit the team as well, so why not haha
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dmac505 wrote:
JTagg7754 wrote:
dmac505 wrote:
JTagg7754 wrote:
ChaRisMa wrote:
Packer fan--

Temper your expectations here. Woodson is going to keep those around him playing their best. But he has lost more than one step. He is a liability in coverage, but a beast by scrimmage and his intelligence is going to have the entire secondary playing heads up, no blown coverage defense. All of those young players will get better because of this.

And Big Reggie clearly made a very nice PR move here. Your all excited. And you should be. But Woodson should be nothing more than a nickel corner. Safety didn't work very well for him.


People put too much into "leadership" and "mentoring". I think mot people are glad he's back solely for the reason of who he is. I want the most talented football players in the league on my teams. I just hope he can somewhat resemble that.


unfortunately, we can't have the most talented players in the league at every position. There are 31 other teams that are trying to get the same thing.

What you can do, in FA is improve your roster to get more talented at a position, and that is what we did. Woodson is a better player or at least on par with Young or Ross.

Then when you see that he is on par/ maybe better, you can also add to the fact he is one of the best in the game at understanding Defence as a whole. He will be able to keep our D in check, limit blown coverages ect.

Say what you want about mentoring, and leadership being overrated.. But you show me any top 5-10 D, and I will show you one or multiple leaders on it, who the rest of the D build off of. Our D the last few years leaders have been TKO, Seymour, McClain, Morrison? I dont know why, and I dont think its a stretch to say that is part of the reason weve been so bad.

Coaches in theory should be that leader I agree, but when you see it coming from another player, it has a bigger effect then coming from the coach.


We'll see. I'm not expecting much from him this year except making our fans school girlish and putting some butts in the stands. That's really about it. Hopefully he proves me wrong but not many 37 y/os will. Here's to hoping though....


yea fair, I definitely am not expecting him to be a probowl player or anything, just an improvement over what we already had.

But Ill admit it was definitely a PR move for RM and Mark Davis, they know we are rebuilding and that a lot of fans will not buy tickets when we are losing... this is an easy way to keep the fans happy, and it may benefit the team as well, so why not haha


I've seen Usama Young play pretty well at times. I hope this doesn't get him off the field and possibly getting better. He's nothing great but he's not terrible either. Very average player that did play pretty well at times on a bad team.

You are absolutely correct also about the second statement. This will sell some seats and that is a great thing for a struggling team going into a known rebuilding year.
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dmac505 wrote:
JTagg7754 wrote:
dmac505 wrote:
JTagg7754 wrote:
ChaRisMa wrote:
Packer fan--

Temper your expectations here. Woodson is going to keep those around him playing their best. But he has lost more than one step. He is a liability in coverage, but a beast by scrimmage and his intelligence is going to have the entire secondary playing heads up, no blown coverage defense. All of those young players will get better because of this.

And Big Reggie clearly made a very nice PR move here. Your all excited. And you should be. But Woodson should be nothing more than a nickel corner. Safety didn't work very well for him.


People put too much into "leadership" and "mentoring". I think mot people are glad he's back solely for the reason of who he is. I want the most talented football players in the league on my teams. I just hope he can somewhat resemble that.


unfortunately, we can't have the most talented players in the league at every position. There are 31 other teams that are trying to get the same thing.

What you can do, in FA is improve your roster to get more talented at a position, and that is what we did. Woodson is a better player or at least on par with Young or Ross.

Then when you see that he is on par/ maybe better, you can also add to the fact he is one of the best in the game at understanding Defence as a whole. He will be able to keep our D in check, limit blown coverages ect.

Say what you want about mentoring, and leadership being overrated.. But you show me any top 5-10 D, and I will show you one or multiple leaders on it, who the rest of the D build off of. Our D the last few years leaders have been TKO, Seymour, McClain, Morrison? I dont know why, and I dont think its a stretch to say that is part of the reason weve been so bad.

Coaches in theory should be that leader I agree, but when you see it coming from another player, it has a bigger effect then coming from the coach.


We'll see. I'm not expecting much from him this year except making our fans school girlish and putting some butts in the stands. That's really about it. Hopefully he proves me wrong but not many 37 y/os will. Here's to hoping though....


yea fair, I definitely am not expecting him to be a probowl player or anything, just an improvement over what we already had.

But Ill admit it was definitely a PR move for RM and Mark Davis, they know we are rebuilding and that a lot of fans will not buy tickets when we are losing... this is an easy way to keep the fans happy, and it may benefit the team as well, so why not haha


So why not? Two words . . . .

Kerry Rhodes

For the same money the Raiders could have had the 4th ranked FS who played 1040snaps and is 5 years younger yet they acquired a nearly 40 yr old safety who only played 486 snaps and ranked 37th.
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Baggabonez wrote:
dmac505 wrote:
JTagg7754 wrote:
dmac505 wrote:
JTagg7754 wrote:
ChaRisMa wrote:
Packer fan--

Temper your expectations here. Woodson is going to keep those around him playing their best. But he has lost more than one step. He is a liability in coverage, but a beast by scrimmage and his intelligence is going to have the entire secondary playing heads up, no blown coverage defense. All of those young players will get better because of this.

And Big Reggie clearly made a very nice PR move here. Your all excited. And you should be. But Woodson should be nothing more than a nickel corner. Safety didn't work very well for him.


People put too much into "leadership" and "mentoring". I think mot people are glad he's back solely for the reason of who he is. I want the most talented football players in the league on my teams. I just hope he can somewhat resemble that.


unfortunately, we can't have the most talented players in the league at every position. There are 31 other teams that are trying to get the same thing.

What you can do, in FA is improve your roster to get more talented at a position, and that is what we did. Woodson is a better player or at least on par with Young or Ross.

Then when you see that he is on par/ maybe better, you can also add to the fact he is one of the best in the game at understanding Defence as a whole. He will be able to keep our D in check, limit blown coverages ect.

Say what you want about mentoring, and leadership being overrated.. But you show me any top 5-10 D, and I will show you one or multiple leaders on it, who the rest of the D build off of. Our D the last few years leaders have been TKO, Seymour, McClain, Morrison? I dont know why, and I dont think its a stretch to say that is part of the reason weve been so bad.

Coaches in theory should be that leader I agree, but when you see it coming from another player, it has a bigger effect then coming from the coach.


We'll see. I'm not expecting much from him this year except making our fans school girlish and putting some butts in the stands. That's really about it. Hopefully he proves me wrong but not many 37 y/os will. Here's to hoping though....


yea fair, I definitely am not expecting him to be a probowl player or anything, just an improvement over what we already had.

But Ill admit it was definitely a PR move for RM and Mark Davis, they know we are rebuilding and that a lot of fans will not buy tickets when we are losing... this is an easy way to keep the fans happy, and it may benefit the team as well, so why not haha


So why not? Two words . . . .

Kerry Rhodes

For the same money the Raiders could have had the 4th ranked FS who played 1040snaps and is 5 years younger yet they acquired a nearly 40 yr old safety who only played 486 snaps and ranked 37th.


Kerry Rhodes apparently is a diva; something that DA and Reggie do not want in our locker room.
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Baggabonez wrote:
dmac505 wrote:
JTagg7754 wrote:
dmac505 wrote:
JTagg7754 wrote:
ChaRisMa wrote:
Packer fan--

Temper your expectations here. Woodson is going to keep those around him playing their best. But he has lost more than one step. He is a liability in coverage, but a beast by scrimmage and his intelligence is going to have the entire secondary playing heads up, no blown coverage defense. All of those young players will get better because of this.

And Big Reggie clearly made a very nice PR move here. Your all excited. And you should be. But Woodson should be nothing more than a nickel corner. Safety didn't work very well for him.


People put too much into "leadership" and "mentoring". I think mot people are glad he's back solely for the reason of who he is. I want the most talented football players in the league on my teams. I just hope he can somewhat resemble that.


unfortunately, we can't have the most talented players in the league at every position. There are 31 other teams that are trying to get the same thing.

What you can do, in FA is improve your roster to get more talented at a position, and that is what we did. Woodson is a better player or at least on par with Young or Ross.

Then when you see that he is on par/ maybe better, you can also add to the fact he is one of the best in the game at understanding Defence as a whole. He will be able to keep our D in check, limit blown coverages ect.

Say what you want about mentoring, and leadership being overrated.. But you show me any top 5-10 D, and I will show you one or multiple leaders on it, who the rest of the D build off of. Our D the last few years leaders have been TKO, Seymour, McClain, Morrison? I dont know why, and I dont think its a stretch to say that is part of the reason weve been so bad.

Coaches in theory should be that leader I agree, but when you see it coming from another player, it has a bigger effect then coming from the coach.


We'll see. I'm not expecting much from him this year except making our fans school girlish and putting some butts in the stands. That's really about it. Hopefully he proves me wrong but not many 37 y/os will. Here's to hoping though....


yea fair, I definitely am not expecting him to be a probowl player or anything, just an improvement over what we already had.

But Ill admit it was definitely a PR move for RM and Mark Davis, they know we are rebuilding and that a lot of fans will not buy tickets when we are losing... this is an easy way to keep the fans happy, and it may benefit the team as well, so why not haha


So why not? Two words . . . .

Kerry Rhodes

For the same money the Raiders could have had the 4th ranked FS who played 1040snaps and is 5 years younger yet they acquired a nearly 40 yr old safety who only played 486 snaps and ranked 37th.


oh yea lets get a primma donna whos character is the exact opposite of what we are bringing in....i want ball players, not hollywood hype!
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I know like Dennis Allen. He said at OTA's today that he is looking for leaders on both side of the ball. What is he thinking. To think a NFL head coach would put stock into leadership in a game with 22 people on the field and a roster getting filled with young hungry players, who needs leadership?
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Who wants Kerry Rhodes in Oakland??? The same guy who got spit on his face from Dockett? He has you fooled if you think he'd be better than CWood! He was ok in NY.


Kerry Rhodes: "I just keep fooling y'all haha I ain't even a good football player!"
His buddy:"Yeah, I won't even look at the camera to dignify your status as a football player."

Camera guy: "Guy 2, what are you looking at!?!?"....
[to be continued] *Turns out Kerry was holding notecards in his hand for guy 2 to read. Fin.

Give me CWood over Rhodes any day. He won't be getting spat upon because he's a true leader.
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Charles Woodson helps hospitals, Kerry Rhodes....rides horses in his free time? CWood is that much cooler in my book! Riding horses is laaaaaaame Wink


No seriously, this guy over Charles? who said that.....
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I would have been completely fine with Rhodes honestly. Maybe not over Woodson, but I would have been stoked either way. One hell of a S. Get over his personal life crap.
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