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PostPosted: Mon May 20, 2013 9:59 am    Post subject: Norv Not sure any QB would have won last year Reply with quote

“@ProFootballTalk: Norv Turner isn't sure any quarterback would have won in Cleveland last year http://wp.me/p14QSB-8WDe

I tend to agree with him
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PostPosted: Mon May 20, 2013 11:16 am    Post subject: Re: Norv Not sure any QB would have won last year Reply with quote

Dawgpoun8017 wrote:
“@ProFootballTalk: Norv Turner isn't sure any quarterback would have won in Cleveland last year http://wp.me/p14QSB-8WDe

I tend to agree with him


I know one game we won last year....

http://scores.espn.go.com/nfl/recap?gameId=321028005

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PostPosted: Mon May 20, 2013 12:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wonder if anyone thinks that Turner should go to NFL General and see what those fans think about his opinon.
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PostPosted: Mon May 20, 2013 12:12 pm    Post subject: Re: Norv Not sure any QB would have won last year Reply with quote

Dawgpoun8017 wrote:
“@ProFootballTalk: Norv Turner isn't sure any quarterback would have won in Cleveland last year http://wp.me/p14QSB-8WDe

I tend to agree with him


While I agree in the bigger picture, general sense of the Browns and its ever changing roster, coaches, and lack of talent over the years, it would pretty easy to take a singular game and say "if this" or "if that" then the Browns would have won.
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PostPosted: Mon May 20, 2013 12:25 pm    Post subject: Re: Norv Not sure any QB would have won last year Reply with quote

Dropkick_pride wrote:
Dawgpoun8017 wrote:
“@ProFootballTalk: Norv Turner isn't sure any quarterback would have won in Cleveland last year http://wp.me/p14QSB-8WDe

I tend to agree with him


While I agree in the bigger picture, general sense of the Browns and its ever changing roster, coaches, and lack of talent over the years, it would pretty easy to take a singular game and say "if this" or "if that" then the Browns would have won.


Yes--If we weren't in the first year of the WCO, which has been historically pretty bad, regardless of talent and coaching. If we didn't have the most rookie starts in the NFL, by far...that's probably plenty right there to say that we would have a hard time winning many games with any QB.
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PostPosted: Mon May 20, 2013 12:48 pm    Post subject: Re: Norv Not sure any QB would have won last year Reply with quote

Entropy wrote:
Dropkick_pride wrote:
Dawgpoun8017 wrote:
“@ProFootballTalk: Norv Turner isn't sure any quarterback would have won in Cleveland last year http://wp.me/p14QSB-8WDe

I tend to agree with him


While I agree in the bigger picture, general sense of the Browns and its ever changing roster, coaches, and lack of talent over the years, it would pretty easy to take a singular game and say "if this" or "if that" then the Browns would have won.


Yes--If we weren't in the first year of the WCO, which has been historically pretty bad, regardless of talent and coaching. If we didn't have the most rookie starts in the NFL, by far...that's probably plenty right there to say that we would have a hard time winning many games with any QB.


2nd year in the WCO, but yeah I agree
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PostPosted: Mon May 20, 2013 2:34 pm    Post subject: Re: Norv Not sure any QB would have won last year Reply with quote

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Entropy wrote:
Dropkick_pride wrote:
Dawgpoun8017 wrote:
“@ProFootballTalk: Norv Turner isn't sure any quarterback would have won in Cleveland last year http://wp.me/p14QSB-8WDe

I tend to agree with him


While I agree in the bigger picture, general sense of the Browns and its ever changing roster, coaches, and lack of talent over the years, it would pretty easy to take a singular game and say "if this" or "if that" then the Browns would have won.


Yes--If we weren't in the first year of the WCO, which has been historically pretty bad, regardless of talent and coaching. If we didn't have the most rookie starts in the NFL, by far...that's probably plenty right there to say that we would have a hard time winning many games with any QB.


2nd year in the WCO, but yeah I agree


Thanks. But it was the first year for all the players that make the WCO offense work.

I'm not sure how McCoy playing in the WCO the year before was supposed to help Weeden--or any player in his first year in the WCO.
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PostPosted: Wed May 22, 2013 9:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

We wouldn't have won a super bowl, but I can name a handful of QBs that would have been able to get us to the playoffs last year.
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PostPosted: Wed May 22, 2013 11:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Norv Turner said / wrote:
“A fan base that truly cares about football means a lot to the players; that means a lot to the coaches when there are people that really care. I found out right away. We were working late and we stopped at a little bar restaurant to get something to eat and have a beer. A guy came over to me and said, ‘Coach, it’s great to meet you. If you get us a winner, you’ll never have to buy a drink again in your life.’”

In terms of cities, Norv is going from one extreme to another. San Diego is a great place, but it's not exactly known for its football passion. Cleveland is the exact opposite.
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PostPosted: Wed May 22, 2013 12:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ReggieCamp wrote:
Norv Turner said / wrote:
“A fan base that truly cares about football means a lot to the players; that means a lot to the coaches when there are people that really care. I found out right away. We were working late and we stopped at a little bar restaurant to get something to eat and have a beer. A guy came over to me and said, ‘Coach, it’s great to meet you. If you get us a winner, you’ll never have to buy a drink again in your life.’”

In terms of cities, Norv is going from one extreme to another. San Diego is a great place, but it's not exactly known for its football passion. Cleveland is the exact opposite.


O were not a great place?

Is that what you are trying to say?

Ughhhh
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PostPosted: Wed May 22, 2013 12:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nugpimpen wrote:
ReggieCamp wrote:
Norv Turner said / wrote:
“A fan base that truly cares about football means a lot to the players; that means a lot to the coaches when there are people that really care. I found out right away. We were working late and we stopped at a little bar restaurant to get something to eat and have a beer. A guy came over to me and said, ‘Coach, it’s great to meet you. If you get us a winner, you’ll never have to buy a drink again in your life.’”

In terms of cities, Norv is going from one extreme to another. San Diego is a great place, but it's not exactly known for its football passion. Cleveland is the exact opposite.


O were not a great place?

Is that what you are trying to say?

Ughhhh



but... San Diego just miiiiight be a bit more livable.
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PostPosted: Wed May 22, 2013 12:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeaaaaaaaa I'm gonna side with so cal on this one
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PostPosted: Wed May 22, 2013 1:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nugpimpen wrote:
ReggieCamp wrote:
Norv Turner said / wrote:
“A fan base that truly cares about football means a lot to the players; that means a lot to the coaches when there are people that really care. I found out right away. We were working late and we stopped at a little bar restaurant to get something to eat and have a beer. A guy came over to me and said, ‘Coach, it’s great to meet you. If you get us a winner, you’ll never have to buy a drink again in your life.’”

In terms of cities, Norv is going from one extreme to another. San Diego is a great place, but it's not exactly known for its football passion. Cleveland is the exact opposite.


O were not a great place?

Is that what you are trying to say?

Ughhhh


This is the mentality that a lot of Cleveland fans have though.

Obviously nug is joking, but a lot of fans seem to think Cleveland is 'just as good' as 'any other city'.

Those folks have either never left Cleveland, never visited the other city that's being discussed, or both.

Cleveland is a turd of a city with gawdawful winters. I'm not saying it would bother me to live there as a pro athlete, but given the choice, there are a lot better options.
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LETSGOBROWNIES wrote:
nugpimpen wrote:
ReggieCamp wrote:
Norv Turner said / wrote:
“A fan base that truly cares about football means a lot to the players; that means a lot to the coaches when there are people that really care. I found out right away. We were working late and we stopped at a little bar restaurant to get something to eat and have a beer. A guy came over to me and said, ‘Coach, it’s great to meet you. If you get us a winner, you’ll never have to buy a drink again in your life.’”

In terms of cities, Norv is going from one extreme to another. San Diego is a great place, but it's not exactly known for its football passion. Cleveland is the exact opposite.


O were not a great place?

Is that what you are trying to say?

Ughhhh


This is the mentality that a lot of Cleveland fans have though.

Obviously nug is joking, but a lot of fans seem to think Cleveland is 'just as good' as 'any other city'.

Those folks have either never left Cleveland, never visited the other city that's being discussed, or both.

Cleveland is a turd of a city with gawdawful winters. I'm not saying it would bother me to live there as a pro athlete, but given the choice, there are a lot better options.


For what its worth, your money goes a lot further in Cleveland
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PostPosted: Wed May 22, 2013 2:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Downtown Cleveland is a turd of a city

The surrounding areas are pretty nice for the most part.

Plus I have a hard time taking you seriously when your location is Cinci

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