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mcmurtry86


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PostPosted: Wed May 15, 2013 7:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Ok. I said that Deaderick was interesting, but not surprising. This is both interesting and surprising.

I assume that means that they have a lot of faith in Kelly and Armstead.



They released him because he's sick and probably can't play. I doubt their evaluations of Armstead or Kelly have anything to do with it



If Love was going to be starting or playing lots of snaps, then they might have only brought in players as backups/insurance/future starters. Since they are not going to get any production out of Love this season, they must believe they have brought in players who can starters (or in the alternative they will be bringing in more competition for the starter's role).


That makes no sense. The decisions to add Kelly and Armstead occurred before Love was diagnosed with diabetes.

I'm sure they were hoping he would compete for a large number of snaps and continue to improve.


Have the Patriots been bringing potential DT starters the last two weeks? Maybe I missed those reports. If they don't believe that Armstead and Kelly are starters, one would assume they have...


What are you talking about? I'm not sure what you're not getting here. Kyle Love was not released because of performance issues or the presence of guys deemed to be better than he.

He was cut because he has diabetes and isn't going to be able to play.

If you've followed the Pats over the last 14 years you should know that outside of Brady, everyone competes for a job and nobody is penciled in to start. I don't believe for a second that the coaching staff is operating under the assumption that a declining veteran or a rookie are going to be opening day starters. I'm sure the hope was for those 2 + Love and others to compete and the best guy would start.

There's no reason to discuss Armstead nor Kelly in this thread because they don't have anything to do with Love being released for medical purposes. If Love was healthy, he'd be competing to keep the starting job he has held for most of the last 2 years.
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PostPosted: Thu May 16, 2013 12:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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He was cut because he has diabetes and isn't going to be able to play.


That doesn't make sense if this was the teams reason for the release. He will be able to play. Type 2 diabetes is so easily managed, even for a professional athlete. Literally requires dietary adjustments and the living of general good lifestyle. (Supplemented with pill medication at times).

Major weak sauce by the Patriots if this is the case. Wouldn't be surprised to see him get picked up if Deaderick did. I mean, Love's not the greatest player ever, but given the depth there, shocked.
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He was cut because he has diabetes and isn't going to be able to play.


That doesn't make sense if this was the teams reason for the release. He will be able to play. Type 2 diabetes is so easily managed, even for a professional athlete. Literally requires dietary adjustments and the living of general good lifestyle. (Supplemented with pill medication at times).

Major weak sauce by the Patriots if this is the case. Wouldn't be surprised to see him get picked up if Deaderick did. I mean, Love's not the greatest player ever, but given the depth there, shocked.


I think the argument was that to control his diabetes (like losing pounds with a healthy diet) he would not have the necessary weight to play DT. I thought the move was very suprising as well b/c like you said we are very thin there.
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PostPosted: Thu May 16, 2013 1:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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He was cut because he has diabetes and isn't going to be able to play.


That doesn't make sense if this was the teams reason for the release. He will be able to play. Type 2 diabetes is so easily managed, even for a professional athlete. Literally requires dietary adjustments and the living of general good lifestyle. (Supplemented with pill medication at times).

Major weak sauce by the Patriots if this is the case. Wouldn't be surprised to see him get picked up if Deaderick did. I mean, Love's not the greatest player ever, but given the depth there, shocked.


He lost a vast amount of weight which means his muscle mass went first and that is going to take quite a bit of time to build back up. He might be able to manage it, but he won't be the same player for a long time and even at that he was serviceable at best.

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PostPosted: Thu May 16, 2013 2:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Not surprising, he can't stay that weight and be healthy with type 2 diabetes. Besides, with Armstead and Kelly both signed his starting days were (probably) done, so what we're missing is a back-up for Wilfork.

Will miss him. He was never great or even above average, but I like when low round picks/UDFAs turn into contributors.

Anybody else doing a silent countdown for "classic classless Pats, releasing a guy with diabetes"?


It didn't take long...
http://deadspin.com/how-can-the-new-england-patriots-cut-a-guy-because-he-h-507136776
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PostPosted: Thu May 16, 2013 2:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Deadspin is the worst.
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PostPosted: Thu May 16, 2013 4:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is a bummer, though. You have to root for a guy, like Arrington, who works his way up from below the "no name" category and ends up not only being a starter, but a solid contributor to a superbowl contender.
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PostPosted: Thu May 16, 2013 7:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Love is not a vested veteran. He's only accumulated three seasons in the NFL. If he clears waivers, the Patriots could place him on "Reserve/Non-Football Illness".
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PostPosted: Thu May 16, 2013 7:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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He was cut because he has diabetes and isn't going to be able to play.


That doesn't make sense if this was the teams reason for the release. He will be able to play. Type 2 diabetes is so easily managed, even for a professional athlete. Literally requires dietary adjustments and the living of general good lifestyle. (Supplemented with pill medication at times).

Major weak sauce by the Patriots if this is the case. Wouldn't be surprised to see him get picked up if Deaderick did. I mean, Love's not the greatest player ever, but given the depth there, shocked.


The playing weight he plays at makes "managing" it extremely difficult. There's a gigantic difference between a surfer with diabetes and a 350+ lbs man. The amount of insulin you need is greater the greater in volume you are. A gentleman of his girth would have significant organ damage in a very small time frame.
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I'll always remember him for doling out the biggest beast mode block I've ever seen.



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I'll always remember him for doling out the biggest beast mode block I've ever seen.



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Pretty sure the guy retired after that.
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That's good. I didn't like Love. He would gloat so much with his flubbery arms when he was actually close to the vicinity of a play. He's a scrub. And not just any scrub. A TLC Scrub.
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That's good. I didn't like Love. He would gloat so much with his flubbery arms when he was actually close to the vicinity of a play. He's a scrub. And not just any scrub. A TLC Scrub.


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He was cut because he has diabetes and isn't going to be able to play.


That doesn't make sense if this was the teams reason for the release. He will be able to play. Type 2 diabetes is so easily managed, even for a professional athlete. Literally requires dietary adjustments and the living of general good lifestyle. (Supplemented with pill medication at times).

Major weak sauce by the Patriots if this is the case. Wouldn't be surprised to see him get picked up if Deaderick did. I mean, Love's not the greatest player ever, but given the depth there, shocked.


It's not 'easy' to manage any form of diabetes when your job requires you to be a fat tub of goo. Love isn't going to be effective at a weight which is suitable for his illness. He's not a 190 lbs WR.

Also, as noted, this could be a prelude to going on NFI though that doesn't seem likely based on his tweet
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PostPosted: Thu May 16, 2013 1:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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He was cut because he has diabetes and isn't going to be able to play.


That doesn't make sense if this was the teams reason for the release. He will be able to play. Type 2 diabetes is so easily managed, even for a professional athlete. Literally requires dietary adjustments and the living of general good lifestyle. (Supplemented with pill medication at times).

Major weak sauce by the Patriots if this is the case. Wouldn't be surprised to see him get picked up if Deaderick did. I mean, Love's not the greatest player ever, but given the depth there, shocked.


It's not 'easy' to manage any form of diabetes when your job requires you to be a fat tub of goo. Love isn't going to be effective at a weight which is suitable for his illness. He's not a 190 lbs WR.

Also, as noted, this could be a prelude to going on NFI though that doesn't seem likely based on his tweet


haha well I think he could be a healthy 310 pound DT and not a "tub of goo" and still be effective.

Bottom line is he'll need to get his health right before he takes another crack at football, it's just to bad the Patriots couldn't support him in that challenge rather then cutting him.
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