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PostPosted: Mon May 13, 2013 9:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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No way does Thurmond make this team over Maxwell. Maxwell is a special teams stud and showed just as much upside at the corner spot as Thurmond.


Walt has shown a lot more than Byron Maxwell when he is on the field. Walt is a legit NFL starter, Byron Maxwell hasn't shown that at all.

The only 'upside' that he has is more size. Maxwell is also limited to playing outside whereas Walt can play in the slot or on the perimeter.
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PostPosted: Wed May 15, 2013 2:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is how i want it to pan out


QB:
Russell Wilson
Jerrod Johnson

RB:
Marshawn Lynch
Robert Turbin
Christine Michael

FB:
Michael Robinson

WR:
Percy Harvin
Sidney Rice
Golden Tate
Doug Baldwin
Chris Harper
Jermaine Kearse

TE:
Zach Miller
Kyle Willson
Anthony McCoy

LT:
Russell Okung
Alvin Baily

LG:
James Carpenter
Rishaw Johnson

C:
Max Unger
Lemuel Jeanpierre

RG:
John Moffit
Jr Sweezy

RT:
Breno Giacomini
Michael Bowie


LDE:
Michael Bennett
Red Bryant

NT:
Brandon Mebane
Clinton Mcdonald
Jason Hill

UT:
Jesse Williams
Tony Mcdaniel
Jaye Howard

LEO:
Cliff Avril
Bruce Irvin

WLB:
Malcolm Smith
Michael Morgan

MLB:
Bobby Wagner
Heath Farwell

SLB:
KJ Wright
Ty Powell

LCB:
Richard Sherman
Tharold Simon

RCB:
Brandon Browner
Jeremy Lane

NCB:
Antoine Winfield

FS:
Earl Thomas
Chris Maragos

SS:
Kam Chancellor
Jerron Johnson

K/P/ST:
Steven H
Jon Ryan
Byron Maxwell

PS
Spencer Ware
Jermaine Kearse
Stephen Williams
Phil Bates
Ryan Seymour
Korey Toomer
Jared Smith
Ty Powell
DeShawn SHead


IR/PUP
Chris Clemons
Greg Scruggs
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I don't believe for one second that Seattle makes it out of their first playoff game.

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PostPosted: Wed May 15, 2013 2:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If I'm not mistaken, that's only 51 guys.
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PostPosted: Wed May 15, 2013 3:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tatupu_64 wrote:
If I'm not mistaken, that's only 51 guys.


Yup, i wanted to leave a spot for clemons, but i confused myself with scruggs and the PUP/IR. Until Clemons came back, i'd probably add Powell and Kearse.
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I don't believe for one second that Seattle makes it out of their first playoff game.

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PostPosted: Wed May 15, 2013 3:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

imani wrote:
This is how i want it to pan out


QB:
Russell Wilson
Jerrod Johnson

RB:
Marshawn Lynch
Robert Turbin
Christine Michael

FB:
Michael Robinson

WR:
Percy Harvin
Sidney Rice
Golden Tate
Doug Baldwin
Chris Harper
Jermaine Kearse

TE:
Zach Miller
Kyle Willson
Anthony McCoy

LT:
Russell Okung
Alvin Baily

LG:
James Carpenter
Rishaw Johnson

C:
Max Unger
Lemuel Jeanpierre

RG:
John Moffit
Jr Sweezy

RT:
Breno Giacomini
Michael Bowie


LDE:
Michael Bennett
Red Bryant

NT:
Brandon Mebane
Clinton Mcdonald
Jason Hill

UT:
Jesse Williams
Tony Mcdaniel
Jaye Howard

LEO:
Cliff Avril
Bruce Irvin

WLB:
Malcolm Smith
Michael Morgan

MLB:
Bobby Wagner
Heath Farwell

SLB:
KJ Wright
Ty Powell

LCB:
Richard Sherman
Tharold Simon

RCB:
Brandon Browner
Jeremy Lane

NCB:
Antoine Winfield

FS:
Earl Thomas
Chris Maragos

SS:
Kam Chancellor
Jerron Johnson

K/P/ST:
Steven H
Jon Ryan
Byron Maxwell

PS
Spencer Ware
Jermaine Kearse
Stephen Williams
Phil Bates
Ryan Seymour
Korey Toomer
Jared Smith
Ty Powell
DeShawn SHead


IR/PUP
Chris Clemons
Greg Scruggs


Jermaine Kearse is listed as a WR, and is on the PS. Also, I would be surprised if Bryon Maxwell didn't make the team. Other than that, looks good! Very Happy
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PostPosted: Wed May 15, 2013 4:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

chpjns15 wrote:
imani wrote:
This is how i want it to pan out


QB:
Russell Wilson
Jerrod Johnson

RB:
Marshawn Lynch
Robert Turbin
Christine Michael

FB:
Michael Robinson

WR:
Percy Harvin
Sidney Rice
Golden Tate
Doug Baldwin
Chris Harper
Jermaine Kearse

TE:
Zach Miller
Kyle Willson
Anthony McCoy

LT:
Russell Okung
Alvin Baily

LG:
James Carpenter
Rishaw Johnson

C:
Max Unger
Lemuel Jeanpierre

RG:
John Moffit
Jr Sweezy

RT:
Breno Giacomini
Michael Bowie


LDE:
Michael Bennett
Red Bryant

NT:
Brandon Mebane
Clinton Mcdonald
Jason Hill

UT:
Jesse Williams
Tony Mcdaniel
Jaye Howard

LEO:
Cliff Avril
Bruce Irvin

WLB:
Malcolm Smith
Michael Morgan

MLB:
Bobby Wagner
Heath Farwell

SLB:
KJ Wright
Ty Powell

LCB:
Richard Sherman
Tharold Simon

RCB:
Brandon Browner
Jeremy Lane

NCB:
Antoine Winfield

FS:
Earl Thomas
Chris Maragos

SS:
Kam Chancellor
Jerron Johnson

K/P/ST:
Steven H
Jon Ryan
Byron Maxwell

PS
Spencer Ware
Jermaine Kearse
Stephen Williams
Phil Bates
Ryan Seymour
Korey Toomer
Jared Smith
Ty Powell
DeShawn SHead


IR/PUP
Chris Clemons
Greg Scruggs


Jermaine Kearse is listed as a WR, and is on the PS. Also, I would be surprised if Bryon Maxwell didn't make the team. Other than that, looks good! Very Happy


Thanks!

If you read the conversation Tats and I had above, it touches on why he's up there twice (as is ty powell). I expect one of them to go back to the PS when clemons returns

Also, Byron Maxwell made the team, i have him on there as a STer. We'll further develop him and continue to use him as a gunner until one of the DBs gets injured IMO.
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PostPosted: Wed May 15, 2013 5:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

imani wrote:
This is how i want it to pan out


QB:
Russell Wilson
Jerrod Johnson

RB:
Marshawn Lynch
Robert Turbin
Christine Michael

FB:
Michael Robinson

WR:
Percy Harvin
Sidney Rice
Golden Tate
Doug Baldwin
Chris Harper
Jermaine Kearse

TE:
Zach Miller
Kyle Willson
Anthony McCoy

LT:
Russell Okung
Alvin Baily

LG:
James Carpenter
Rishaw Johnson

C:
Max Unger
Lemuel Jeanpierre

RG:
John Moffit
Jr Sweezy

RT:
Breno Giacomini
Michael Bowie


LDE:
Michael Bennett
Red Bryant

NT:
Brandon Mebane
Clinton Mcdonald
Jason Hill

UT:
Jesse Williams
Tony Mcdaniel
Jaye Howard

LEO:
Cliff Avril
Bruce Irvin

WLB:
Malcolm Smith
Michael Morgan

MLB:
Bobby Wagner
Heath Farwell

SLB:
KJ Wright
Ty Powell

LCB:
Richard Sherman
Tharold Simon

RCB:
Brandon Browner
Jeremy Lane

NCB:
Antoine Winfield

FS:
Earl Thomas
Chris Maragos

SS:
Kam Chancellor
Jerron Johnson

K/P/ST:
Steven H
Jon Ryan
Byron Maxwell

PS
Spencer Ware
Jermaine Kearse
Stephen Williams
Phil Bates
Ryan Seymour
Korey Toomer
Jared Smith
Ty Powell
DeShawn SHead


IR/PUP
Chris Clemons
Greg Scruggs
Looks good other than Winston Guy should be behind Chancellor instead of Johnson.
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PostPosted: Wed May 15, 2013 5:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not a Winston Guy fan. He has showed some blitzing ability, but i haven't seen much of anything else of use from him, myself.
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PostPosted: Wed May 15, 2013 10:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tooki wrote:
SoS wrote:
No way does Thurmond make this team over Maxwell. Maxwell is a special teams stud and showed just as much upside at the corner spot as Thurmond.


Walt has shown a lot more than Byron Maxwell when he is on the field. Walt is a legit NFL starter, Byron Maxwell hasn't shown that at all.

The only 'upside' that he has is more size. Maxwell is also limited to playing outside whereas Walt can play in the slot or on the perimeter.


Now don't mistake me for a CB evaluator, but I've heard straight from a respected film breakdown guy that Thurmond looked almost as good as Richard Sherman when he was playing.

He was starting over Sherman for a reason right...?
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PostPosted: Wed May 15, 2013 11:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

imani wrote:
This is how i want it to pan out




TE:
Zach Miller
Kyle Willson
Anthony McCoy



So a Jets CB is going to be our 2nd TE interesting

Laughing
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PostPosted: Thu May 16, 2013 3:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

klyon7634 wrote:
imani wrote:
This is how i want it to pan out




TE:
Zach Miller
Kyle Willson
Anthony McCoy



So a Jets CB is going to be our 2nd TE interesting

Laughing


its about the 8th time i've confused names Laughing At least im the only one who spells his last name right
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PostPosted: Fri May 17, 2013 6:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

imani wrote:
Tatupu_64 wrote:
SoS wrote:
No way does Thurmond make this team over Maxwell. Maxwell is a special teams stud and showed just as much upside at the corner spot as Thurmond.
He has not shown the upside Thurmond has, that's ridiculous.


I have to side with Tats here, I haven't seen anything to support that comment I remember Thurmond covering fitzgerald VERY well for a rookie two years ago. I remember him being pretty solid every time he touched the field healthy as a corner. Maxwell's impact on the field has been limited to ST to this point. I might agree that Maxwell would be better for this team as a #5, due to his ability in between possessions.....but i draw the line there


Maxwell was a top 15 rated metric CB in the multiple games he gave us this past season, which is something Walter Thurmond has NEVER done as a perimeter defender. Maxwell's special teams ability alone will give him the roster spot, but this forum seriously overrates Thurmond. Especially considering this is a player coming off yet another injury.
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Not a Winston Guy fan. He has showed some blitzing ability, but i haven't seen much of anything else of use from him, myself.


Thing is, Pete is going to value that blitzing ability from his Bandit safety more than most coaches. Guy was originally brought in for his versatility which Jeron Johnson didn't bring, and nothing about that has changed presumably. At the end of the day, if the team only keeps 4 safeties, I have to think Maragos is the one that's cut. He serves the least purpose on this team and his play is easily replaceable. I doubt the team cares that he's a "true" FS and they'd prefer to just keep their 4 best safeties.
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SoS wrote:
imani wrote:
Tatupu_64 wrote:
SoS wrote:
No way does Thurmond make this team over Maxwell. Maxwell is a special teams stud and showed just as much upside at the corner spot as Thurmond.
He has not shown the upside Thurmond has, that's ridiculous.


I have to side with Tats here, I haven't seen anything to support that comment I remember Thurmond covering fitzgerald VERY well for a rookie two years ago. I remember him being pretty solid every time he touched the field healthy as a corner. Maxwell's impact on the field has been limited to ST to this point. I might agree that Maxwell would be better for this team as a #5, due to his ability in between possessions.....but i draw the line there


Maxwell was a top 15 rated metric CB in the multiple games he gave us this past season, which is something Walter Thurmond has NEVER done as a perimeter defender. Maxwell's special teams ability alone will give him the roster spot, but this forum seriously overrates Thurmond. Especially considering this is a player coming off yet another injury.
no. Really just no. Thurmond is a better CB. Injuries are a separate issue and obviously one that will be made in deciding who stays. However if Pete and John were to purely pick the best CB, it would be Thurmond.

Maxwell never even started except MAYBE the 49ers game
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Tatupu_64 wrote:
SoS wrote:
imani wrote:
Tatupu_64 wrote:
SoS wrote:
No way does Thurmond make this team over Maxwell. Maxwell is a special teams stud and showed just as much upside at the corner spot as Thurmond.
He has not shown the upside Thurmond has, that's ridiculous.


I have to side with Tats here, I haven't seen anything to support that comment I remember Thurmond covering fitzgerald VERY well for a rookie two years ago. I remember him being pretty solid every time he touched the field healthy as a corner. Maxwell's impact on the field has been limited to ST to this point. I might agree that Maxwell would be better for this team as a #5, due to his ability in between possessions.....but i draw the line there


Maxwell was a top 15 rated metric CB in the multiple games he gave us this past season, which is something Walter Thurmond has NEVER done as a perimeter defender. Maxwell's special teams ability alone will give him the roster spot, but this forum seriously overrates Thurmond. Especially considering this is a player coming off yet another injury.
no. Really just no. Thurmond is a better CB. Injuries are a separate issue and obviously one that will be made in deciding who stays. However if Pete and John were to purely pick the best CB, it would be Thurmond.

Maxwell never even started except MAYBE the 49ers game


You don't need to start to show you can perform. Don't know how that line of logic works. Maxwell may not have started the Buffalo game (I don't remember to be honest) but I do remember finding that he had top 10 CB metrics for that week alone and that's the game that really put him on the map as a guy that could step up and perform in this league if called upon.

And sorry, but when we're talking about the 5th or 6th corner on the team, we're not just talking about "purely pick the best CB", you're looking for the guy that can do the most for your team. As of now, we know Maxwell can be a dynamite gunner on special teams whereas Thurmond offers little in the way of return help and essentially nothing on kickoff/punt duties from what I can remember.
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