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Apollo Stallion


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PostPosted: Mon May 06, 2013 7:26 pm    Post subject: Ed Reed Surgery Reply with quote

And the tradition continues...
Tony Boselli...
Ahman Green...
Ed Reed...

Um Bob, you know it might be time to start consulting some new folks over at that Med Center thingy you can literally walk to from the stadium. Not sure how it works in South Carolina or with horses, but here in Texas, you are in fact allowed to put somebody through a full battery of medical tests before you guarantee them 8 digit contracts. Why does this franchise continue to get made the fool by pathetic medical misinformation and buying other teams damaged goods? Forgive me if I'm a bit skeptical of Ed not missing camp with this as this is the same organization that had Andre Johnson and Ben Tate miss months with injuries described as "day to day" at the time. Remember when Roosevelt Colvin was the answer to the pass rush problem? Anyone else think we were just plain lucky in taking Mario Williams because we thought Dom Davis (Williams) would be just fine? Sure - Dunta's fine - franchise him, Rick. Don't draft a Left Tackle, Charles Spencer will be back and better than ever... TE, for David Carr - nah, let's keep trotting 2nd rounder Bennie Joppru around camp for 4 years to contribute 1 game. Anthony Hill - the guy was out with swine flu at one point - swine flu... For goodness sakes, just rename the Methodist Practice Facility Brett Hartmann field in honor of our roided up Punter who tore his acl watching one of his punts get fair caught. Jeez - I feel like Randy Quaid in Major League 2 today...

Ozzie Newsome is sitting over there shining his pretty new ring laughing at scooping us to get Arthur Brown along with Elam to replace Lewis/Reed and Dumervil to replace Kruger while we sit with Pollard-lite in Swearinger and some two headed Sam Montgomery/Travardo Williams thing to replace Barwin. I sure hope it plays out better than this, but any time I start hearing McNair (or his doofus son Cal) sticking his nose into football matters as he did in stumping for Ed, I start having nightmares about him "staying the course" with his boy David Carr or that he "remained cautiously optimistic" with Boselli (which I still think he is to this day).

http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/2222/ed-reed
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PostPosted: Mon May 06, 2013 7:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I hope you are wrong, but I fear you are right. Ugh.
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PostPosted: Mon May 06, 2013 9:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Had it always been known that McNair was the driving force in bringing Ed Reed to Texas or is that just coming out?
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PostPosted: Mon May 06, 2013 11:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am not going to freak out (like Apollo) just yet. However, to his point, this is not a good start.
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PostPosted: Mon May 06, 2013 11:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kubiak surely didn't expect it thats for sure.

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Nick Scurfield ‏@NickScurfield 9h

Kubiak on Ed Reed (hip): "We didn't expect it, but it started bothering him. That's when we got aggressive in what we needed to do"


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Bob McNair called Ed Reed's surgery a "minor procedure. He'll be ready once training camp starts, maybe the middle" #Texans


Not worried about it yet. Better to get surgery on it now than have it linger into the preseason and regular season. Plus Swearinger needs some reps too even if Reed miss most of training camp.
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PostPosted: Tue May 07, 2013 11:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Really, all i care about is if reed is ready for the playoffs. As far as I'm concerned, if he misses time, it'll only be to the benefit of Swearinger. I'm sure we'll be fine at safety. This is the best safety rotation we've ever had.
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PostPosted: Wed May 08, 2013 12:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I warned against signing him....
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PostPosted: Fri May 17, 2013 12:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If this is true, not kool AT ALL...

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Profootballtalk reports the Ravens "generally knew" Ed Reed's hip was an issue, and that the Texans "apparently didnít."
Reed's issue (torn labrum) apparently couldn't have been detected by a physical or X-ray. That means there's a very real chance he made no mention of his injury to the Texans until after he signed on the dotted line. If that's the case, it's a transgression that would put a lesser player in hot water with his new team. For now, it doesn't appear the Texans will try to recoup any of the $6 million guaranteed they owe Reed.


The deeper story appears even more.... "troublesome"
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/05/17/ravens-suspected-reed-had-hip-problem-texans-apparently-didnt/
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PostPosted: Fri May 17, 2013 1:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

PAtexansFAN99 wrote:
Really, all i care about is if reed is ready for the playoffs. As far as I'm concerned, if he misses time, it'll only be to the benefit of Swearinger. I'm sure we'll be fine at safety. This is the best safety rotation we've ever had.
Only thing is it wouldnt be a rotation if Reed is out.

I want to be mad at Reed for not disclosing his injury but i would have done the same thing Something tells me the Texans didnt do their due diligence on both his hips like they should have.
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PostPosted: Fri May 17, 2013 2:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Blaze wrote:
PAtexansFAN99 wrote:
Really, all i care about is if reed is ready for the playoffs. As far as I'm concerned, if he misses time, it'll only be to the benefit of Swearinger. I'm sure we'll be fine at safety. This is the best safety rotation we've ever had.
Only thing is it wouldnt be a rotation if Reed is out.

I want to be mad at Reed for not disclosing his injury but i would have done the same thing Something tells me the Texans didnt do their due diligence on both his hips like they should have.


The second line of the article is a bit telling -

"Reed's issue (torn labrum) apparently couldn't have been detected by a physical or X-ray. That means there's a very real chance he made no mention of his injury to the Texans until after he signed on the dotted line."

I find it a bit surprising that it wouldn't show up in an X-ray or physical, though I'm not a doctor. But I'd be surprised if there wasn't some form of clause in the contract about how the contract could be voided if it's revealed that Ed Reed failed to disclose an existing medical injury.

But this does not look good for ol' Rick Smith.
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PostPosted: Fri May 17, 2013 3:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

texansfan wrote:
Blaze wrote:
PAtexansFAN99 wrote:
Really, all i care about is if reed is ready for the playoffs. As far as I'm concerned, if he misses time, it'll only be to the benefit of Swearinger. I'm sure we'll be fine at safety. This is the best safety rotation we've ever had.
Only thing is it wouldnt be a rotation if Reed is out.

I want to be mad at Reed for not disclosing his injury but i would have done the same thing Something tells me the Texans didnt do their due diligence on both his hips like they should have.


The second line of the article is a bit telling -

"Reed's issue (torn labrum) apparently couldn't have been detected by a physical or X-ray. That means there's a very real chance he made no mention of his injury to the Texans until after he signed on the dotted line."

I find it a bit surprising that it wouldn't show up in an X-ray or physical, though I'm not a doctor. But I'd be surprised if there wasn't some form of clause in the contract about how the contract could be voided if it's revealed that Ed Reed failed to disclose an existing medical injury.

But this does not look good for ol' Rick Smith.


Labrum is made up of Cartilage so it wouldn't show up on an x-ray.

In Smith/Kubes I trust
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PostPosted: Fri May 17, 2013 4:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If Ed Reed isnt going to be ready to play football I am going to be a little more than just upset bec Charles Woodson has been on the market this whole time he is healthy ready to go but we took they guy that is going to possibly ride the IR or PUP express... If this gets serious we should be looking at Woodson or Rhoades. Yes i know we have no cap room but we need to be asking for some money back.
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PostPosted: Fri May 17, 2013 5:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

texansfan wrote:
Blaze wrote:
PAtexansFAN99 wrote:
Really, all i care about is if reed is ready for the playoffs. As far as I'm concerned, if he misses time, it'll only be to the benefit of Swearinger. I'm sure we'll be fine at safety. This is the best safety rotation we've ever had.
Only thing is it wouldnt be a rotation if Reed is out.

I want to be mad at Reed for not disclosing his injury but i would have done the same thing Something tells me the Texans didnt do their due diligence on both his hips like they should have.


The second line of the article is a bit telling -

"Reed's issue (torn labrum) apparently couldn't have been detected by a physical or X-ray. That means there's a very real chance he made no mention of his injury to the Texans until after he signed on the dotted line."

I find it a bit surprising that it wouldn't show up in an X-ray or physical, though I'm not a doctor. But I'd be surprised if there wasn't some form of clause in the contract about how the contract could be voided if it's revealed that Ed Reed failed to disclose an existing medical injury.

But this does not look good for ol' Rick Smith.


I'm not a lawyer but I think all contracts are based on good faith that the other person is telling the whole truth and fully disclosing all facts. I'd imagine that if the Texans want to their lawyers could recoup some or all of their money if they wished to back out of the contract. That might set a president, not sure if any team has ever done this, and I don't know that the team wants to go down that road as it might open up whole different can or worms. I also don't think this looks bad for Smith, I think it was McNair pushing hard for this signing.
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PostPosted: Fri May 17, 2013 6:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

To be fair do you think this FO would have the cojones to put that into Reed's contract. I mean it's not like he didn't have other options.
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PostPosted: Fri May 17, 2013 10:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

texans_uk wrote:
To be fair do you think this FO would have the cojones to put that into Reed's contract. I mean it's not like he didn't have other options.
If he signed a one year deal, i could see them asking for a portion back if he tried to pull a fast one on the Texans. For as much money as he got over the life of the contract, i doubt he revealed his injury and the team was cool with it.
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