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PostPosted: Wed May 01, 2013 5:41 pm    Post subject: 2013 Roster Breakdown Reply with quote

With most of the offseason transactions now in the book, let's take a look at the players vying for a spot on the 2013 Raiders roster.

While i wonder if the QBs need to be discussed more than they already are, i can't ignore the most important position on the team.

QBs

Matt Flynn - 6'2, 225 - 6th season
http://www.nfl.com/player/mattflynn/367/profile

Flynn is about to turn 28 next month and has very limited experience as a starting QB in the NFL. In his 2 career starts, he was pretty impressive though. He looks like a player with limitations to his game but who can find success in a West Coast Offense. He won't have the benefit of a highly talented receiver group in Oakland and shouldn't be asked to carry this offense. The return to a dominant running game is key no matter who the starting QB is.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_C8F0cWvAfo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Adud3fLmUJ8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B7C8uEA9Xtw


Terrelle Pryor - 6'4, 233 - 3rd season
http://www.nfl.com/player/terrellepryor/2531332/profile

Pryor is an athletic freak with incredible "potential". But from the little i've seen so far, he's just a bad passer. His footwork inside the pocket is terrible. He rarely steps into his throws, just relying on his arm to push the ball downfield. And while his ability to escape pressure is a good thing to have, he needs to keep his eyes downfield, otherwise it turns into him against 11 guys trying to make a play. That won't work consistently in the NFL. The good thing is he seems to be working very hard to become the best player he can be. IF, and that's a huge if, he can improve his passing fundamentals, he can become a threat at the position.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hn_d9ClS7Ms
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K84-h7L3Yx8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tb9udEjPKT0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Teq_PArS2SU


Tyler Wilson - 6'2, 215 - Rookie
http://www.nfl.com/draft/2013/profiles/tyler-wilson?id=2539201

Wilson seems very similar to Matt Flynn to me. Just adequate on deep throws but accurate on short and intermediate stuffs. Some ability to move around in the pocket. Sounds like a system QB to me. I don't see franchise QB in this guy. Probably a solid backup or low end starter.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ZwHXT69tWM


Kyle Padron - 6'3, 221 - Rookie
http://www.nfl.com/draft/2013/profiles/kyle-padron?id=2540194

Don't know much about him. Seems like a solid athlete with a decent arm. Got benched at SMU so it's hard to hope for much in the pros. Probably just a camp arm.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gtmClNqTxS0

Projected opening day depth chart:
Flynn/Pryor/Wilson
- Grade: C-

I like the youth and the depth more than in the last few years but you can't get overly confident about 3 combined NFL starts. Neither of those QBs should be asked to carry the team. I wouldn't expect them to succeed if that's the case.
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PostPosted: Wed May 01, 2013 10:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Man, you should probably start with the defensive line since we have been over the QB thing forever.

It would probably be more interesting. Confused
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PostPosted: Thu May 02, 2013 1:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

DOCLEW 28 wrote:
Man, you should probably start with the defensive line since we have been over the QB thing forever.

It would probably be more interesting. Confused


+1. I see this thread getting big, quick!
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Safety

Tyvon Branch



Height: 6-0
Weight: 210
Age: 26
NFL Exp: 6

Tyvon Branch has the most experience of any other safety on this roster. One of the Few "Al Davis Guys" that's left, he has been as inconsistent as they come. One season he looks like a promising up and coming top safety, the next he looks like a bottom 10 starting safety. He has flashed amazing potential then follows it up with badly blowing a coverage, or taking a horrific angle on a RB. Maybe he can get back to his UCONN days in terms of coverage where he played CB. He, as of today, is our starting SS and maybe a second year in this system will help improve his play, but as of right now, he's just a very average starting Safety until proven otherwise. Very good locker room guy, and still has potential to turn it around. Hopefully he does.

http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/4871/tyvon-branch

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JiYUjXeBmmg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UfmS3nbN5m0

Reggie Smith



Height: 6-1
Weight: 200
Age: 26
NFL Exp: 5

I'm actually very intrigued by this signing. Could be one of those under-the-radar, low risk, high reward type signings. He is still young and I know he was cut by two teams, but from talking to 49er fans they were actually very surprised that he was cut, they liked him and thought he could be good if given the opportunity, but I guess he wanted a chance to start else where. In 2010 I think it was he took over midway through the season and actually played quite well. A converted CB I'm assuming he can cover, although I've seen SS maybe he can compete at FS. If anything he provides solid depth at a position of need. Very humble, hard working guy who loves Cali. Typical Reggie pick up.

http://www.silverandblackpride.com/2013/4/10/4210910/free-agent-safety-reggie-smith-signs-with-oakland-raiders

http://www.49ers.com/news/article-2/Smith-Takes-Big-Leap-in-Secondary/ae2097b9-61ba-4262-a313-8d37bcf44efd

Quote:
“Reggie has made tremendous leaps in just a couple of years,” fellow starting safety Dashon Goldson said. “He knows what he’s doing. There’s no babysitting going on. Nobody has to tell him what to do.

“I’m really comfortable with Reggie back there. He knows his assignments, he knows the calls and he’s making plays.”

At 200 pounds, Smith is somewhat undersized for his position. He knows this, but teammates and opponents alike know that any lack in size is more than made up for by his athleticism.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vP5M5ips2CI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2qJu-jVEUtk&NR=1&feature=endscreen

He likes to Dougie

Usama Young



Height: 6-0
Weight: 200
Age: 27
NFL Exp: 7

Another cheap veteran brought in for competition and experience. The guy has started before, I have heard his name but don't know too much about him. Right now he looks to be the starter at FS, but will definitley have to earn it against guys like Ross and Smith. Mixed reviews on him, One fan says he's terrible and others say he isn't bad. PFF had him rated as one of the better coverage and tackling safeties IIRC, so take that for what it's worth. Has worked with Dennis Allen before, so he must like him. Was also once teammates with recently added CB Tracy Porter as well. Another quality community and locker room guy.


http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/04/09/raiders-sign-usama-young/
http://www.silverandblackpride.com/2013/4/10/4210316/oakland-raiders-usama-young-says-he-enjoys-flying-under-the-radar
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"I talked to [Tracy Porter] probably the day after he went out to visit... He seemed pretty excited about going and playing for coach Allen and I said that's funny because I remember being in those defensive back meeting rooms and you understand him, you know what he's about, he knows what you're about and that's rare to get when you're in this league for a while. You go back and play for a guy that's coached you, was the reason that you were drafted, and I got similar excitement too because I know he's gonna get the most out of his players."

Young said once he realized the Browns were not bringing him back and he was a free agent, coming to the Raiders was an exciting possibility. He spoke to his agent about it even without known the team had released Michael Huff at the free safety position. He just wanted to play for Dennis Allen and on the Raiders regardless of the position. Though, the bulk of his experience in the NFL is as a Free Safety.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZCVA5eDXMM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DX2YFr7XETU

Brandian Ross



Height: 6-0
Weight: 195
Age: 23
NFL Exp: 2

Another interesting player. Can play both S and CB. He was signed off GB's Practice squad, so Reggie was familiar with him and obviously liked what he saw. Apparently looked promising for Green Bay as well in the pre season, but just fell victim of the numbers game. Got some playing time last year at CB and Safety and looked pretty good at safety for being thrown in there and learning on the fly. Would probably be talked about in higher regards if it wasn't for knocking out Adams and getting smoked by Alexander (while playing CB). This guy definitely has a shot to start, although unlikely, probably has the most potential out of the guys we have at Safety, so maybe he can actually become something. He has the opportunity, now he just has to show up.

http://www.mercurynews.com/raiders/ci_22275248/oakland-raiders-defensive-back-brandian-ross-quite-versatile
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Ross, at 6-foot-1, 191 pounds, is capable of playing both safety spots, which is where he began his college career at Youngstown State. He moved to cornerback, where he'll start against San Diego, with Phillip Adams likely out with a groin injury.

Slot corner? No problem. He's also adept at the Raiders "joker" position, a hybrid safety-corner utilized in some packages that can have Ross blitzing, playing in the box or falling deep, depending on the call.
"I'm just trying to stack as much good film as I can going into the offseason at different positions and just help this team win and build for next year," Ross said.

Subbing for Adams against Carolina, Ross was not beaten for any gains of significance, had a tackle for loss and a quarterback hit on a blitz.

As an exclusive rights free agent, the Raiders can keep Ross on the roster by making him a qualifying offer next season. Given the preference of coach Dennis Allen for multiple defenses and versatile defenders, Ross could be a factor next season.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkanrT9GrYo

Shelton Johnson



Height: 6-0
Weight: 200
Age: 22
NFL Exp: Rookie, Wisconsin

I don't know too much about him. He's an Undrafted Free Agent Rookie who can play Free Safety. Apparently he was pretty good coming into this past season but his play fell off when the rest of his secondary entered the NFL. Potential is there, seems to be a rangy quick guy, so maybe he cans tick at a position of need such as FS. Never know.

http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=83197&draftyear=2013&genpos=FS

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nqJ_W3Zt7aA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-uXgrqkoGE

Akwasi Owusu-Ansah



Height: 6-0
Weight: 210
Age: 25
NFL Exp: 2

I know a lot of people liked him coming out of college, and he defintiley had a lot of potential. I don't really see him making an impact here. He wasn't very good on the Cowboys, but maybe he can turn it around. Never know. Camp body it seems ATM, but with no real stand outs at the position, anyone has a shot. Has KR/ST ability. I'll be rooting for him though, he went to a nearby school.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhqOcr4rTsM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWyHc-KGp6c

Projected Opening day depth chart:

FS: Brandian Ross | Usama Young
SS: Tyvon Branch | Reggie Smith

Shelton Johnson has a chance, but he'll probably make the PS for now.

Grade: C+
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(If you don't mind the help oakdb)
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OakRaiders3828 wrote:

(If you don't mind the help oakdb)


Not at all, go ahead. And if someone wants to breakdown other positions, be my guest.
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Done with the Safety position.
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I get in line and help some!

Defensive Tackle

This group will have a huge impact on our Defensive success and I feel pretty good about them.


Vance Walker

6'2 304 at the age of 26 with 4 year NFL experience with the Falcons. He will be our stating UT /or 3-tech/ IMO. He constantly got better every year which lead to 9 starts in this last season. He is ready for the next step, which is being the starter. He is more of a pass rusher, but can hold his ground in the running game as well. He should be able to generate nice pressure in the middle. I would say that a 4-6 sack season is a reality for him and with solid gap control he should also be useful against the run. I think he will be in for the early and passing downs and will be pulled out on short and sure running downs, but still will be a really solid starter. Not a superstar, but a useful member on our line. He will work his tail off for sure, since this is his big chance to shine and get a solid long term contract from us or in FA.

http://www.nfl.com/player/vancewalker/79657/profile

Pat Sims

6'2 335 at the age of 27 with 5 seasons as a Bengal. He is a true 4-3 NT, which we lack since...forever. He is a 2 down player and offers no pass rush, but is strong against the run and most of the time they will need 2 OL to move him. He was a rotational run stuffer on a pretty strong and deep Bengal line. He has some injury concerns and we can except a few missed games, but I really think that he will help our run D. He also will give 100%, since he is on a 1 year deal too and if he can't show here that he is a capable starter at NT he will stuck in the back up department for the rest of his carrier. He will be in on short and obvious running downs a lot, but he will get pulled out when it comes to passing.

http://www.nfl.com/player/patsims/786/profile

Christo Bilukidi

6'5 310 at the age of 23 with one year NFL experience. NFL.com has him at 290, but that was his college number, he was around 310 by draft time. Raiders.com has him at 320, but I can't see that based on his play and look on the field. I went with the 310, but it1s really not important.
I go out and say this: He will be the joker of our interior DL and his success will be crucial to the overall success. He will be the primary back up and I would go as far as call him the 3rd starting DT. I really think that he will be Vance's partner when we want to push the pocket and rush the QB and he will be Sims's partner when they try to run on us. He will be on the field as much or even more as the other 2. I think he is just this good. We all knew that he is a freakish athlete, but by now we know that he really has the strength, quickness to play in the NFL. I can't find his combine numbers now, but remember that before the draft I find it and he was better in almost every category then Floyd, while being heavier by 10 pounds. He will continue to improve with his technique, which will be easy to see, since he has little football background. By the end of this season he will be a starter I assume in Sims place and if Walker plays well we hopefully will have a young good DT tandem for years.

I think we will carry 4 DT's with 5 DE's, so the last DT spot will be up for grabs between Jones, Stacy and Kurt. If none of the seems good enough and a veteran lowers his price I can see a late addition. I'm thinking about Corey Williams here in the first place.

Johnny Jones

At 6'4 314 at the age of 24 without active NFL years seems like a project for the back up NT position to me. If he can't get on the 53 man roster he should be a PS candidate and maybe with another year he will be able to be a solid back up by 2014.

http://www.nfl.com/player/johnnyjones/2530784/profile

Stacy McGee

At 6'3 308 at the age of 23 he is a really interesting player. He has off-the-field problems, but was a really high prospect going out of HS. I'm sure RM, DA and the scouting department saw something big in this kid, if they brought his problematic character on board. He will have only one shot IMO, but if he can mature up he could be a really nice UT back up. He has good quickness and some moves. If he puts it together mentally I think he will be the 4th DT on the roster come day 1.

http://www.nfl.com/player/stacymcgee/2541412/profile

Kurt Taufa'asau

6'2 300 UDFA rookie. I find little info on him, but he looks like an interesting UT prospect as well. He seems to be pretty quick and has a great motor, character. He could be the guy who beats our stacy if he gets cocky.

http://nfldraftzone.com/draft-news/draft-zone-spotlight-kurt-taufaasau-dt-wyoming/

http://www.nfl.com/player/kurttaufa'asau/2541527/profile
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OakRaiders3828 wrote:
Done with the Safety position.


Very good write up, but I think you were a little generous with the grade. I honestly see it as a D+/C- group.
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OakRaiders3828 wrote:
Done with the Safety position.


Very good write up, but I think you were a little generous with the grade. I honestly see it as a D+/C- group.


This, unfortunately...I think Ross can ball for us though...
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Big Rob wrote:
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OakRaiders3828 wrote:
Done with the Safety position.


Very good write up, but I think you were a little generous with the grade. I honestly see it as a D+/C- group.


This, unfortunately...I think Ross can ball for us though...


I am not comfortable at all with Ross back there at FS. He really did nothing during the season to look at him seriously as a candidate to start for this team next year. It may end up being Young by experienced default.
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Bone_Collector wrote:
OakRaiders3828 wrote:
Done with the Safety position.


Very good write up, but I think you were a little generous with the grade. I honestly see it as a D+/C- group.


It'd be a straight D for me. Branch is the only one who has proven he can handle starting duty and he's coming off a disappointing season. Smith was out of the league last year. Young is a low end starter. Ross seems to have some upside but it's not clear where they intend to play him. FS would make the most sense due to the lack of depth. He'd be a bit undersized for the position.

It's a below average group on paper.
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As for the DTs, i like the top 3. Sims is a very good run stopper, Walker is versatile and a player on the rise. I'm not sure how good he can be but i'm really looking forward to seeing him in Silver and Black. Bilukidi should earn a bigger role in the rotation. I think those guys complement each other well but none of them are game changers. I think Houston will see his fair share of snaps at DT on passing downs too. The 4th spot is up for grabs.

Overall, i'd give the unit a C+.
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