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PostPosted: Wed May 22, 2013 7:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

abbs1988 wrote:
Ben Roethlisberger, QB

and

Lesean McCoy, RB

Both top 5 in their respective positions


Lol, what?

Agreed on McCoy, awesome value here. But Ben a top 5 QB? I really honestly don't think he's close.

Rodgers
Brady
Brees
Peyton Manning
Cam NEwton
Matt Ryan
RG3
Luck

All guys I would take over Ben today. Heck, Kaepernick, Romo, Wilson, Eli and Flacco all have arguments that could be made for them over Ben too.

I think he's a good QB and does some things uniquely well, but no way is he a top 5 QB. Unless your going 100% by # of rings, in which case how is Lesean "What's a superbowl?" McCoy top 5 at RB?
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PostPosted: Wed May 22, 2013 7:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

just love how some ppl believe all you need to win a "football" game is a great pass rush.

49ers had the best pass rush in the league last year and the oh so great ravens offensive line kept that pass rush at bay.

with the amount of teams, if you are able to build a so called amazing pass rush, means someone else possibly built a so called amazing offense.
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PostPosted: Wed May 22, 2013 7:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

freakygeniuskid wrote:
abbs1988 wrote:
Ben Roethlisberger, QB

and

Lesean McCoy, RB

Both top 5 in their respective positions


Lol, what?

Agreed on McCoy, awesome value here. But Ben a top 5 QB? I really honestly don't think he's close.

Rodgers
Brady
Brees
Peyton Manning
Cam NEwton
Matt Ryan
RG3
Luck

All guys I would take over Ben today. Heck, Kaepernick, Romo, Wilson, Eli and Flacco all have arguments that could be made for them over Ben too.

I think he's a good QB and does some things uniquely well, but no way is he a top 5 QB. Unless your going 100% by # of rings, in which case how is Lesean "What's a superbowl?" McCoy top 5 at RB?


I agree, and disagree.

I don't think Big ben is top 5. But thats only b/c I don't think he's as good as Manning, Brady, Rogers and Brees. Ben falls into the next group of guys with Eli, Romo, and so on.

Having said that, he is the best of what was left.

McCoy=top5back.

great runner, great receiver. might be the best pick thus far in this draft.
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PostPosted: Wed May 22, 2013 7:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

buno67 wrote:
just love how some ppl believe all you need to win a "football" game is a great pass rush.

49ers had the best pass rush in the league last year and the oh so great ravens offensive line kept that pass rush at bay.

with the amount of teams, if you are able to build a so called amazing pass rush, means someone else possibly built a so called amazing offense.


I think a line of balance needs to be played. Diversity. and I'm not talking about the old, old wooden ship.

A great pass rush has cost Brady a few big games the last couple years. At the same time, he's made big time pass rushers invisible.
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PostPosted: Wed May 22, 2013 7:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

well good thing we got a great pass rush a stout d- line and a shutdown secondary
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PostPosted: Wed May 22, 2013 7:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

buno67 wrote:
just love how some ppl believe all you need to win a "football" game is a great pass rush.

49ers had the best pass rush in the league last year and the oh so great ravens offensive line kept that pass rush at bay.

with the amount of teams, if you are able to build a so called amazing pass rush, means someone else possibly built a so called amazing offense.


Who anywhere in this thread said all you need is pass rush to win games?
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PostPosted: Wed May 22, 2013 7:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hornbybrown wrote:
buno67 wrote:
just love how some ppl believe all you need to win a "football" game is a great pass rush.

49ers had the best pass rush in the league last year and the oh so great ravens offensive line kept that pass rush at bay.

with the amount of teams, if you are able to build a so called amazing pass rush, means someone else possibly built a so called amazing offense.


Who anywhere in this thread said all you need is pass rush to win games?


well some ppl in here just kept talking pass rush this, pass rush that...
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PostPosted: Wed May 22, 2013 7:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nugpimpen wrote:
FEARtheELF wrote:
hornbybrown wrote:
Thomas5737 wrote:
FEARtheELF wrote:
We were last on the rankings because QB and no weapons.


Adding Big Ben with an elite offensive line and McCoy solved that problem.

I would be stoked to see what Ben could do behind a real offensive line, would have all day and still extend plays even longer. DBs nightmare


Ben will always extend plays, and he will always get beat up because of it. I think he'd still takes his lumps even if he played behind the greatest offensive line ever assembled. It can be a good trait to have in your QB, but they obviously will get sacked more and injured more.


Ant the pass rush the hornypimppound has put together will trouble even the greatest OL of all time.


Still can't touch our pass rush Cool


Our overall defensive unit is absurd.

Easily the best and it's not even finished yet.


Suggest you take a look at ours...
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PostPosted: Wed May 22, 2013 7:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mistakebytehlak wrote:
nugpimpen wrote:
FEARtheELF wrote:
hornbybrown wrote:
Thomas5737 wrote:
FEARtheELF wrote:
We were last on the rankings because QB and no weapons.


Adding Big Ben with an elite offensive line and McCoy solved that problem.

I would be stoked to see what Ben could do behind a real offensive line, would have all day and still extend plays even longer. DBs nightmare


Ben will always extend plays, and he will always get beat up because of it. I think he'd still takes his lumps even if he played behind the greatest offensive line ever assembled. It can be a good trait to have in your QB, but they obviously will get sacked more and injured more.


Ant the pass rush the hornypimppound has put together will trouble even the greatest OL of all time.


Still can't touch our pass rush Cool


Our overall defensive unit is absurd.

Easily the best and it's not even finished yet.


Suggest you take a look at ours...


Yes, these Defensive units are nice and all.... but how 'bout some Flathomasters Offense!!! Cool
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PostPosted: Wed May 22, 2013 7:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

will you guys put your weiners away...this contest of whos better is getting kind of annoying
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PostPosted: Wed May 22, 2013 8:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd like to respectfully disagree with everybody and proclaim my team as the superior team
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i'm actually drafting only 2014 probowl starters. Steamers uber all yall
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PostPosted: Wed May 22, 2013 8:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My team gets all teh gurls.
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PostPosted: Wed May 22, 2013 8:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Reginaldm9 wrote:
My team gets all teh gurls.



after the pimp pounders have had them Cool
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PostPosted: Wed May 22, 2013 8:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

buno67 wrote:
will you guys put your weiners away...this contest of whos better is getting kind of annoying


Mine is bigger and better.
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