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PostPosted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 9:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Supes, your list says 3 specialists (which I assume covers K, P, and LS). Are you including Hester in your 6 WR total?
Yes Hester is included in my 6 WRs, which is why I highly doubt Wilson will make the roster.


So in reality you only see the Bears keeping 5 WR's because Hester is no longer a WR, will not practice with the WR's, won't learn any of those plays and would be completely unprepared to even fill in. Correct?
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wiscbearsfan wrote:
Superman(DH23) wrote:
wiscbearsfan wrote:
Supes, your list says 3 specialists (which I assume covers K, P, and LS). Are you including Hester in your 6 WR total?
Yes Hester is included in my 6 WRs, which is why I highly doubt Wilson will make the roster.


So in reality you only see the Bears keeping 5 WR's because Hester is no longer a WR, will not practice with the WR's, won't learn any of those plays and would be completely unprepared to even fill in. Correct?


I don’t see any way we don’t keep 6 WRs plus Hester when you consider we didn’t add a pass catching TE behind Bennett…yeah we have E-Rod but I think he will continue to be more of a FB since we didn’t draft that either…I think we will see plenty of 3 receiver sets this year and we need bodies for that.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 10:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Madmike90 wrote:
wiscbearsfan wrote:
Superman(DH23) wrote:
wiscbearsfan wrote:
Supes, your list says 3 specialists (which I assume covers K, P, and LS). Are you including Hester in your 6 WR total?
Yes Hester is included in my 6 WRs, which is why I highly doubt Wilson will make the roster.


So in reality you only see the Bears keeping 5 WR's because Hester is no longer a WR, will not practice with the WR's, won't learn any of those plays and would be completely unprepared to even fill in. Correct?


I don’t see any way we don’t keep 6 WRs plus Hester when you consider we didn’t add a pass catching TE behind Bennett…yeah we have E-Rod but I think he will continue to be more of a FB since we didn’t draft that either…I think we will see plenty of 3 receiver sets this year and we need bodies for that.



I agree 100%. Eric Weems has a total of 26 receptions in 5 seasons, and Anderson had 0 last season. I can't see the Bears relying on either of them to be primary backups at WR, I don't care how great they are on ST's.
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Madmike90 wrote:
wiscbearsfan wrote:
Superman(DH23) wrote:
wiscbearsfan wrote:
Supes, your list says 3 specialists (which I assume covers K, P, and LS). Are you including Hester in your 6 WR total?
Yes Hester is included in my 6 WRs, which is why I highly doubt Wilson will make the roster.


So in reality you only see the Bears keeping 5 WR's because Hester is no longer a WR, will not practice with the WR's, won't learn any of those plays and would be completely unprepared to even fill in. Correct?


I don’t see any way we don’t keep 6 WRs plus Hester when you consider we didn’t add a pass catching TE behind Bennett…yeah we have E-Rod but I think he will continue to be more of a FB since we didn’t draft that either…I think we will see plenty of 3 receiver sets this year and we need bodies for that.


I agree. I have felt all along that a lack of receivers has been the elephant in the room, particularly when it has been intimated that Hester is not very likely to play receiver this year. That may change, but until we hear different it is more likely he stays a specialist.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 11:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hester struggled to comprehend his assignments in the past, there is no way he is going to be able to grasp Trestmans playbook. Now he could have some packages but that doesn't make him a WR.
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Madmike90 wrote:
wiscbearsfan wrote:
Superman(DH23) wrote:
wiscbearsfan wrote:
Supes, your list says 3 specialists (which I assume covers K, P, and LS). Are you including Hester in your 6 WR total?
Yes Hester is included in my 6 WRs, which is why I highly doubt Wilson will make the roster.


So in reality you only see the Bears keeping 5 WR's because Hester is no longer a WR, will not practice with the WR's, won't learn any of those plays and would be completely unprepared to even fill in. Correct?


I don’t see any way we don’t keep 6 WRs plus Hester when you consider we didn’t add a pass catching TE behind Bennett…yeah we have E-Rod but I think he will continue to be more of a FB since we didn’t draft that either…I think we will see plenty of 3 receiver sets this year and we need bodies for that.

Agree with this.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 2:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Madmike90 wrote:
wiscbearsfan wrote:
Superman(DH23) wrote:
wiscbearsfan wrote:
Supes, your list says 3 specialists (which I assume covers K, P, and LS). Are you including Hester in your 6 WR total?
Yes Hester is included in my 6 WRs, which is why I highly doubt Wilson will make the roster.


So in reality you only see the Bears keeping 5 WR's because Hester is no longer a WR, will not practice with the WR's, won't learn any of those plays and would be completely unprepared to even fill in. Correct?


I don’t see any way we don’t keep 6 WRs plus Hester when you consider we didn’t add a pass catching TE behind Bennett…yeah we have E-Rod but I think he will continue to be more of a FB since we didn’t draft that either…I think we will see plenty of 3 receiver sets this year and we need bodies for that.

Kyle Adams can catch the ball and they can move one of the big guys, TE or OL, into the backfield to block on occasion should they want E-Rod out as a TE. They certainly did not need to spend a high pick on a TE, although a 6th or 7th round would have been ok.

Have they picked up any UDFA TEs?
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Mudderfudder77 wrote:
Madmike90 wrote:
wiscbearsfan wrote:
Superman(DH23) wrote:
wiscbearsfan wrote:
Supes, your list says 3 specialists (which I assume covers K, P, and LS). Are you including Hester in your 6 WR total?
Yes Hester is included in my 6 WRs, which is why I highly doubt Wilson will make the roster.


So in reality you only see the Bears keeping 5 WR's because Hester is no longer a WR, will not practice with the WR's, won't learn any of those plays and would be completely unprepared to even fill in. Correct?


I don’t see any way we don’t keep 6 WRs plus Hester when you consider we didn’t add a pass catching TE behind Bennett…yeah we have E-Rod but I think he will continue to be more of a FB since we didn’t draft that either…I think we will see plenty of 3 receiver sets this year and we need bodies for that.



I agree 100%. Eric Weems has a total of 26 receptions in 5 seasons, and Anderson had 0 last season. I can't see the Bears relying on either of them to be primary backups at WR, I don't care how great they are on ST's.
Weems has done nothing while here so I don't expect he will be on the team next year. Wilson will be much cheaper and can do nothing just as well.
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ChicagoAl wrote:
Mudderfudder77 wrote:
Madmike90 wrote:
wiscbearsfan wrote:
Superman(DH23) wrote:
wiscbearsfan wrote:
Supes, your list says 3 specialists (which I assume covers K, P, and LS). Are you including Hester in your 6 WR total?
Yes Hester is included in my 6 WRs, which is why I highly doubt Wilson will make the roster.


So in reality you only see the Bears keeping 5 WR's because Hester is no longer a WR, will not practice with the WR's, won't learn any of those plays and would be completely unprepared to even fill in. Correct?


I don’t see any way we don’t keep 6 WRs plus Hester when you consider we didn’t add a pass catching TE behind Bennett…yeah we have E-Rod but I think he will continue to be more of a FB since we didn’t draft that either…I think we will see plenty of 3 receiver sets this year and we need bodies for that.



I agree 100%. Eric Weems has a total of 26 receptions in 5 seasons, and Anderson had 0 last season. I can't see the Bears relying on either of them to be primary backups at WR, I don't care how great they are on ST's.
Weems has done nothing while here so I don't expect he will be on the team next year. Wilson will be much cheaper and can do nothing just as well.


Isn't Weems a pretty good special teams player?
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wiscbearsfan wrote:
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Weems has done nothing while here so I don't expect he will be on the team next year. Wilson will be much cheaper and can do nothing just as well.


Isn't Weems a pretty good special teams player?



According to PFF, Weems graded out as the best player on the Bears ST coverage team.


But IMO I think its likely Weems does not make the 53 man roster.
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I'm not prepared to say who won't make the team, but Wilson certainly will. He's got great talent and at one point was mocked in the 2nd round. He fell because of attitude stuff, and with Brandon and Alshon, I feel that we've got a nice stable of talented receivers who have overcome character questions. As such, Wilson will make it on this team and look like the talent he is.
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Mudderfudder77 wrote:
wiscbearsfan wrote:
ChicagoAl wrote:
Weems has done nothing while here so I don't expect he will be on the team next year. Wilson will be much cheaper and can do nothing just as well.


Isn't Weems a pretty good special teams player?



According to PFF, Weems graded out as the best player on the Bears ST coverage team.


But IMO I think its likely Weems does not make the 53 man roster.


Doesn't he have 1 million dollars in dead money? I also love him on special teams.
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BonanzaHawk wrote:
I'm not prepared to say who won't make the team, but Wilson certainly will. He's got great talent and at one point was mocked in the 2nd round. He fell because of attitude stuff, and with Brandon and Alshon, I feel that we've got a nice stable of talented receivers who have overcome character questions. As such, Wilson will make it on this team and look like the talent he is.


I'd double that sentiment for our UDFA Harrison. I think both picks are potentially very high reward choices, with minimal risk (extremely late pick, and an udfa)..

It's going to be very interesting to see who ends up making the 53, and who ends up going to the practice squad... Honestly, depending on how up-tempo Tresty is going to get this season, it could even be possible (albeit unlikely) that both make the final roster. It's one of the first times I can remember actually being excited about receiver depth, and I can't wait to see how these kids perform/develop (and Alshon as well) before the coming season.
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wiscbearsfan wrote:
ChicagoAl wrote:
Mudderfudder77 wrote:
Madmike90 wrote:
wiscbearsfan wrote:
Superman(DH23) wrote:
wiscbearsfan wrote:
Supes, your list says 3 specialists (which I assume covers K, P, and LS). Are you including Hester in your 6 WR total?
Yes Hester is included in my 6 WRs, which is why I highly doubt Wilson will make the roster.


So in reality you only see the Bears keeping 5 WR's because Hester is no longer a WR, will not practice with the WR's, won't learn any of those plays and would be completely unprepared to even fill in. Correct?


I don’t see any way we don’t keep 6 WRs plus Hester when you consider we didn’t add a pass catching TE behind Bennett…yeah we have E-Rod but I think he will continue to be more of a FB since we didn’t draft that either…I think we will see plenty of 3 receiver sets this year and we need bodies for that.



I agree 100%. Eric Weems has a total of 26 receptions in 5 seasons, and Anderson had 0 last season. I can't see the Bears relying on either of them to be primary backups at WR, I don't care how great they are on ST's.
Weems has done nothing while here so I don't expect he will be on the team next year. Wilson will be much cheaper and can do nothing just as well.


Isn't Weems a pretty good special teams player?
That is why they got him but I haven't seen much. At least not enough to cut a promising WR in order to keep him.
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seriously guys I question whether or not you understand how a roster is built, you have to cut somebody from my 53 in order to make room for these guys that have never taken a snap of NFL, and in the case of Wilson, are abysmal ST players (something they will have to do to make the roster). So...tell me who from my 53 are cutting to make room for these guys? They aren't making the roster, not this year, and I've seen nothing from Wilson that tells me he's more talented than Joe Anderson, who unlike Wilson, is a GREAT ST player.
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