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PostPosted: Sat Apr 27, 2013 11:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Rutgers S Duron Harmon is destroying people out there right now. Good size and an intriguing late round prospect.


Four months ago by a Scouts Inc guy.


And even he said late round pick... again, i wouldn't of had a problem with the pick if BB likes him so much I'm sure he has a reason for it, but the risk of waiting and taking him later in the draft was very small, why not take a better prospect in the 3rd round and try to get Harmon later? is he the next Ed Reed that Bill couldn't wait a bit? maybe trade down in the 4th and pick Harmon in the 5th-7th rounds?
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 27, 2013 11:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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rabbisson wrote:
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Kevin Weidl
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Rutgers S Duron Harmon is destroying people out there right now. Good size and an intriguing late round prospect.


Four months ago by a Scouts Inc guy.


And even he said late round pick... again, i wouldn't of had a problem with the pick if BB likes him so much I'm sure he has a reason for it, but the risk of waiting and taking him later in the draft was very small, why not take a better prospect in the 3rd round and try to get Harmon later? is he the next Ed Reed that Bill couldn't wait a bit? maybe trade down in the 4th and pick Harmon in the 5th-7th rounds?


The Patriots were trying to trade out the pick, per Doug Kyed. They couldn't find a partner. Took the pick to the wire.
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rabbisson wrote:
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rabbisson wrote:
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Kevin Weidl
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Rutgers S Duron Harmon is destroying people out there right now. Good size and an intriguing late round prospect.


Four months ago by a Scouts Inc guy.


And even he said late round pick... again, i wouldn't of had a problem with the pick if BB likes him so much I'm sure he has a reason for it, but the risk of waiting and taking him later in the draft was very small, why not take a better prospect in the 3rd round and try to get Harmon later? is he the next Ed Reed that Bill couldn't wait a bit? maybe trade down in the 4th and pick Harmon in the 5th-7th rounds?


The Patriots were trying to trade out the pick, per Doug Kyed. They couldn't find a partner. Took the pick to the wire.


So there was NO ONE else they liked ahead of him? *he* was the highest rated player left on their board??
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 27, 2013 12:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Billy Spikes wrote:
rabbisson wrote:
Billy Spikes wrote:
rabbisson wrote:
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Kevin Weidl
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Rutgers S Duron Harmon is destroying people out there right now. Good size and an intriguing late round prospect.


Four months ago by a Scouts Inc guy.


And even he said late round pick... again, i wouldn't of had a problem with the pick if BB likes him so much I'm sure he has a reason for it, but the risk of waiting and taking him later in the draft was very small, why not take a better prospect in the 3rd round and try to get Harmon later? is he the next Ed Reed that Bill couldn't wait a bit? maybe trade down in the 4th and pick Harmon in the 5th-7th rounds?


The Patriots were trying to trade out the pick, per Doug Kyed. They couldn't find a partner. Took the pick to the wire.


So there was NO ONE else they liked ahead of him? *he* was the highest rated player left on their board??


We have a very early 4th Rounder, we could have taken a better player then tried to shop the 4th Rounder overnight.

Ridiculous reasoning. BB does like to maker things appear more complicated than they are.
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TomRalph wrote:
Billy Spikes wrote:
rabbisson wrote:
Billy Spikes wrote:
rabbisson wrote:
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Kevin Weidl
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Rutgers S Duron Harmon is destroying people out there right now. Good size and an intriguing late round prospect.


Four months ago by a Scouts Inc guy.


And even he said late round pick... again, i wouldn't of had a problem with the pick if BB likes him so much I'm sure he has a reason for it, but the risk of waiting and taking him later in the draft was very small, why not take a better prospect in the 3rd round and try to get Harmon later? is he the next Ed Reed that Bill couldn't wait a bit? maybe trade down in the 4th and pick Harmon in the 5th-7th rounds?


The Patriots were trying to trade out the pick, per Doug Kyed. They couldn't find a partner. Took the pick to the wire.


So there was NO ONE else they liked ahead of him? *he* was the highest rated player left on their board??


We have a very early 4th Rounder, we could have taken a better player then tried to shop the 4th Rounder overnight.

Ridiculous reasoning. BB does like to maker things appear more complicated than they are.


I know, it's silly, Harmon surly would of made it to the 4th round pick... how could he of been the highest rated player on their board?
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If the Pats identified Harmon as a guy they wanted to draft, wouldn't passing him in the 3rd round hurt their flexibility in moving the 102nd pick?

Presumably, they want to fill in the 5th/6th round picks if possible.

I'm guessing that played into their thinking a bit.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 27, 2013 12:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why is it so absurd to think Harmon was the highest player on BB's board? He does this every year.

And what this draftniks say is irrelevant to how BB operates.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 27, 2013 12:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Why is it so absurd to think Harmon was the highest player on BB's board? He does this every year.

And what this draftniks say is irrelevant to how BB operates.


Exactly. Just because the media has someone rated low doesn't mean BB has him rated low.
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Way too much overreaction to this pick. It was a reach, sure. But he doesn't look like a bad prospect at all. Tavon Wilson was placed everywhere on the field at Illinois, and looked lost in all positions. He wasn't half bad as a rookie, and that pick had more of a fall of the cliff to it.
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Duron Harmon is an anagram for "random ho run"
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 27, 2013 1:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Duron Harmon is an anagram for "random ho run"


Sounds like my trip to Rome.

2 miles of prostitutes.
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Way too much overreaction to this pick. It was a reach, sure. But he doesn't look like a bad prospect at all. Tavon Wilson was placed everywhere on the field at Illinois, and looked lost in all positions. He wasn't half bad as a rookie, and that pick had more of a fall of the cliff to it.


The pick may not work out, in fact the odds say a 3rd rounder is more likely to bust than to make it. However, I think BB has earned the benefit of the doubt from us fans to make picks like this, especially after nabbing Tavon Wilson as the 3rd safety taken and everyone crying about how much of a reach it was an how terrible a pick he made. Then having it turn out that Wilson put up as good or better numbers than everyone but the two guys taken in front of him.

BB could pick Rich Eisen and he would still get the benefit of the doubt from me. He deserve it and earned it.
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VTPatsFan wrote:
Tzimisce wrote:
Duron Harmon is an anagram for "random ho run"


Sounds like my trip to Rome.

2 miles of prostitutes.


Were they lying end to end? Or crucified every half mile in the Roman tradition?
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 27, 2013 2:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ChazStandard wrote:
VTPatsFan wrote:
Tzimisce wrote:
Duron Harmon is an anagram for "random ho run"


Sounds like my trip to Rome.

2 miles of prostitutes.


Were they lying end to end? Or crucified every half mile in the Roman tradition?


.... so lets talk about teddy bears and flowers instead? Or that draft thing that's going on.

Laughing where this conversation was going to end up going... we'll never know!
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Not sure if this was posted and didn't feel like wading through the 8 pages of rage but:

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The safety group had some nice upside as well. The most impressive of the safeties was Rutgers’ Duron Harmon. He was easily the best athlete at the position and his breaking ability and fluid hips were very impressive. He came in at 6-0 and 198 pounds and shows very good feet and explosiveness. On one play during team he sprinted from the opposite hash to cover a drag route and came close to intercepting a pass thrown out in front of the receiver. On another short hand off play he came flying up from about 12 yards deep to stick the running back at the line of scrimmage. He definitely plays faster than his estimated 4.6 speed.


http://www.optimumscouting.com/draft/articles/2013-nflpa-collegiate-bowl-scouting-recap.html

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Duron Harmon, SS, Rutgers - Scouts consider Harmon the best athlete at his position in this bowl game. There has been estimated 40 times for him around the 4.6 range, which is really slow. But scouts called him the most explosive defensive back at the NFLPA bowl, with great instincts. He plays faster than his “estimated” time.


http://proplayerinsiders.com/nflpa-bowl-players-that-could-be-on-the-washington-redskins-radar/
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