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Kampman74


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 26, 2013 12:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dunderhead wrote:
Wouldn't put any weight in this article.



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 26, 2013 12:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

fritz wrote:
So now I don't know what to think at all


Simple... McGinn is a hack who writes speculation and opinion pieces as if they were actual news and doesn't distinguish the difference between the two. He also LOVES to write anything negative he can because it gets him a ton of hits and comments. Not many people I say this about, but his articles aren't even worth the bandwidth required to read them anymore.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 26, 2013 12:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

fritz wrote:
Actually, those paragraphs on Raji, Pick and Jolly in McGinn's article bothered me all day yesterday, especially when juxtaposed against a recent Detroit News article I read in which Nick Fairley was described as coming in in fantastic shape, and being hungry.

Raji's in a contract year, Pickett knows he's nearing the end and could be cut, and Jolly needs to be a boy scout on a mission, yet all three came in out of shape and overweight? Aren't they hungry for anything more than another Big Mac?

But then I wondered if McGinn was given this information by a source, or if he saw for himself. If, as one poster above suggests, he was given this by a source, then I start to question the story. This is for two reasons: one, the source could have been feeding McGinn misinformation so teams might think the Packers would be looking specifically for a defensive tackl type, or two, McGinn's new narrative about the Packers being paranoid about avoiding injured players turns out to be untrue, as Datone Jones had surgery on his foot in 2010.

So now I don't know what to think at all, except that if it's true, it's at least somewhat troubling to me. If anyone should be on a mission this year, it's those three.

Most of it is I don't trust McGinn as far as I can throw him.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 26, 2013 12:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And last year the whole thing was, Raji is in the best shape ever, he will be completely unblockable. When did he really start to play well? The end of the year. I won't cry my self to sleep about how "in shape" these guys are in at the end of April.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 26, 2013 12:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

One thing guaranteed about athletic fat men is they are fat. This is probably typical.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 26, 2013 12:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Isn't that what OTA's are for? Getting the heads on straight for the young guys and getting the big guys off the couch early so they are in shape for TC?

Raji and Pickett aren't going anywhere. This is nothing but press desperate for something to write about.

For these big guys, being "in shape" is always in quotes isn't it?
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 26, 2013 12:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Where are the fitness thread guys to chime in?

Woudln't we expect flab on these guys at this time a year if they had been working on building muscle mass all offseason? That would come with a high cal diet and aerobics might be counterproductive. If they were boxers they'd lift and lift until a couple months before their fight to start getting in cardio shape I'd think.

These guys don't "fight" until the end of July.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 26, 2013 12:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

3irty1 wrote:
Where are the fitness thread guys to chime in?

Woudln't we expect flab on these guys at this time a year if they had been working on building muscle mass all offseason? That would come with a high cal diet and aerobics might be counterproductive. If they were boxers they'd lift and lift until a couple months before their fight to start getting in cardio shape I'd think.

These guys don't "fight" until the end of July.


It's a physical, demanding job the rest of the year. Personally from Feb-April, I would want my guys "Taking it easy" and not pushing themselves too hard. Let the body recover from the pounding it takes during the season. People putting on a few pounds or not being in mid season cardio form is really not a worry for me at all.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 26, 2013 1:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

People are saying cut Picket.. SMH. You think our run defense is bad now? Try it without pickett
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 26, 2013 1:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

fritz wrote:
Actually, those paragraphs on Raji, Pick and Jolly in McGinn's article bothered me all day yesterday, especially when juxtaposed against a recent Detroit News article I read in which Nick Fairley was described as coming in in fantastic shape, and being hungry.

Raji's in a contract year, Pickett knows he's nearing the end and could be cut, and Jolly needs to be a boy scout on a mission, yet all three came in out of shape and overweight? Aren't they hungry for anything more than another Big Mac?

But then I wondered if McGinn was given this information by a source, or if he saw for himself. If, as one poster above suggests, he was given this by a source, then I start to question the story. This is for two reasons: one, the source could have been feeding McGinn misinformation so teams might think the Packers would be looking specifically for a defensive tackl type, or two, McGinn's new narrative about the Packers being paranoid about avoiding injured players turns out to be untrue, as Datone Jones had surgery on his foot in 2010.

So now I don't know what to think at all, except that if it's true, it's at least somewhat troubling to me. If anyone should be on a mission this year, it's those three.


It's April. I feel like it's reasonable to think that guys on as high of calorie diets as they are tend to put on a little bit when they are left to their own devices during the offseason when they don't play a 60min football game every week.

This reaks of propaganda. McGinn has been spreading a lot of it lately.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 26, 2013 3:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

G Harmon wrote:
People are saying cut Picket.. SMH. You think our run defense is bad now? Try it without pickett

This. I have no clue why people are so eager to get rid of Pickett. I also am hoping he can be re-signed to a reasonable deal after this season to play another two years or so.
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consider the source........read the source name.........put in mental recycle bin along with recently watched porn
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 26, 2013 7:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Macc_Aviv wrote:
G Harmon wrote:
People are saying cut Picket.. SMH. You think our run defense is bad now? Try it without pickett

This. I have no clue why people are so eager to get rid of Pickett. I also am hoping he can be re-signed to a reasonable deal after this season to play another two years or so.


I agree. Pick had a great season last year. I'd love to be able to bring him back for another couple years.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 27, 2013 5:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

-- PackerReport (Green Bay) on Sat Apr 27 21:16:01 +0000 2013
Trgo says this is lightest Pickett has been at this time of year. Raji is "right about where he left off."

-- TyDunne (Green Bay, WI) on Sat Apr 27 21:16:40 +0000 2013
Trgovac: "This is the lightest Ryan Pickett has come in. B.J. Raji where he was last year." And then he's cut off. OK...

-- MikeVandermause (Green Bay, WI) on Sat Apr 27 21:16:53 +0000 2013
Trgovac: Spent little bit of time with Johnny Jolly. He's doing well. This is lightest Pickett has come in to offseason. Raji about same wt.

-- PeteDougherty (Green Bay, WI) on Sat Apr 27 21:16:59 +0000 2013
Said Raji's weight is about what it's always been at this time of year.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 27, 2013 5:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dijatool wrote:
-- PackerReport (Green Bay) on Sat Apr 27 21:16:01 +0000 2013
Trgo says this is lightest Pickett has been at this time of year. Raji is "right about where he left off."

-- TyDunne (Green Bay, WI) on Sat Apr 27 21:16:40 +0000 2013
Trgovac: "This is the lightest Ryan Pickett has come in. B.J. Raji where he was last year." And then he's cut off. OK...

-- MikeVandermause (Green Bay, WI) on Sat Apr 27 21:16:53 +0000 2013
Trgovac: Spent little bit of time with Johnny Jolly. He's doing well. This is lightest Pickett has come in to offseason. Raji about same wt.

-- PeteDougherty (Green Bay, WI) on Sat Apr 27 21:16:59 +0000 2013
Said Raji's weight is about what it's always been at this time of year.


McGinn's integrity is the lightest it's been all year.
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