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johndeere1707


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 26, 2013 8:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

shawn williams i guess
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 26, 2013 8:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We'll know which DE we aren't resigning by where Hunt practices at.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 26, 2013 8:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Really pissed we took Hunt over Swearinger. Very Bengals pick but I don't like it

Don't know a ton about Williams
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 26, 2013 8:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, we have a safety, we'll see if this is another Marvin White or someone who can actually play
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 26, 2013 8:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ochocinco4pres wrote:
Really pissed we took Hunt over Swearinger. Very Bengals pick but I don't like it

Don't know a ton about Williams


Hes another Taylor Mays
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 26, 2013 8:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shawn Williams combine measurables:

5117
213 lbs
30.75 arms
8.375 hands
4.46 40
1.58 10
36" vert
4.25 shuttle
7.01 3-cone
10'0" broad
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 26, 2013 8:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

wrminning wrote:
ochocinco4pres wrote:
Really pissed we took Hunt over Swearinger. Very Bengals pick but I don't like it

Don't know a ton about Williams


Hes another Taylor Mays


Not at all. Love the pick. He's been the better Georgia Safety. Been saying that for a while...
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wrminning wrote:
ochocinco4pres wrote:
Really pissed we took Hunt over Swearinger. Very Bengals pick but I don't like it

Don't know a ton about Williams


Hes another Taylor Mays


Awesome. Just what we need Crying or Very sad
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 26, 2013 8:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Eifert i like.
Bernard i really don't like at all. Completely average in every facet of the game.
Haven't see much on Hunt, but there was a plethora of players who could help us more.
Shawn Williams is decent.

Don't like this draft.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 26, 2013 8:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TheVillain112 wrote:
wrminning wrote:
ochocinco4pres wrote:
Really pissed we took Hunt over Swearinger. Very Bengals pick but I don't like it

Don't know a ton about Williams


Hes another Taylor Mays




Not at all. Love the pick. He's been the better Georgia Safety. Been saying that for a while...


I have to disagree hes a very talented player who doesn't play up to his talent level. But it may work out with Zim biting him in the @&&!!!
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 26, 2013 8:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ESPN profile from back in December

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Georgia S Shawn Williams (Grade: 83)
Williams picked off four passes last season and has shown the ability to make routine plays in coverage, but he has no interceptions this year and doesn't show the ball skills teams look for in first-round safeties.

Plus, he doesn't have the same fluidity or quick-twitch movements in coverage as Texas S Kenny Vaccaro (Grade: 92), and Williams will have a tougher time matching up with slot receivers at the next level.

A team looking for immediate help in the back end would do well to land Williams in the second round, though. At 6-foot and 219 pounds, he's an effective run-stopper who can hold up in the box and make plays filling from the high point. He's a big hitter with above-average range in coverage and moves well enough to match up with tight ends.

In addition, he's a smart player who rarely gets caught out of position and appears capable of quickly adjusting to a new scheme. NFL comparison: Seattle SS Kam Chancellor

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 26, 2013 8:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

wrminning wrote:
ochocinco4pres wrote:
Really pissed we took Hunt over Swearinger. Very Bengals pick but I don't like it

Don't know a ton about Williams


Hes another Taylor Mays


hes not like Taylor Mays at all
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 26, 2013 9:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Another Profile from ESPN's draft tracker

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Overall Football Traits

Production: 2 2009: (13/0)  5-0-0 2010: (13/3)  34-1-0 2011: (11/11)  72-6-4 2012: (14/14)  98-4-0 Career: 10.5 TFLs

Height-Weight-Speed: 2 Possesses prototypical height with above-average bulk. Strapped together with a muscular frame. Top-end speed is well above-average. Shorter arms (30.6) and small hands (8.3) for the position.

Durability: 1 Tough and will play through minor injuries. Has played in all 54 games (30 starts) throughout his career.

Intangibles: 1 Tough player who brings emotion to the defense. Natural leader. Called out his defense in 2012 after a few sub-par performances. Plays with the game with emotion. No off the field issues to our knowledge.

1 = Exceptional2 = Above average3 = Average4 = Below average5 = Marginal


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Safety Specific Traits

Instincts/Recognition: 2 Diagnoses quickly. Does a nice job of reading his keys and also shows good natural playmaking instincts. Adept at reading WRs routes. Understands leverage and angles. Does a nice job of maintaining leverage in deep-middle coverage. Regularly gets early jumps on the ball and seems to be in on more plays than most. Plays with passion and brings a physical presence down the middle of the field.

Cover Skills: 3 Can do a better job of staying compact and keeping balance in backpedal but shows very quick feet for his size and adequate-to-good hip fluidity. Better at breaking forward. Shows adequate burst out of pedal. Flashes some tightness when having to quickly turn and open with a 180 degree turn. Overall range is adequate but not elite. Knows when to attack the body and can separate ball from WR's hands/body.

Ball Skills: 3 Production dropped in this area dropped in 2012. But can read routes and flashes playmaking instincts. Shows adequate-to-good ball skills. Can pluck on the run. Has the size and leaping ability (36 inch vertical) to hold up in one-one jump ball situations.

Run Support: 1 Is big and has good strength (25 reps of 225) for the position. Aggressive and productive in run support. Does a nice job of filling under control from the high point. Has the size/strength to hold up in the box. Can wrap high sometimes but overall tackling skills are solid. Shows adequate-to-good initial pop. Long and strong arms to wrap. Drives legs through the ball carrier. Solid finisher. Plays with a chip and flashes a mean streak.

1 = Exceptional 2 = Above average 3 = Average 4 = Below average 5 = Marginal

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 26, 2013 9:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I mean it seems people liked him. Just would have preferred Swearinger and Okefor I guess
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 26, 2013 9:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

For all of Marvin's talk of interchangable safties, Williams sure seems like an in the box kind of guy.
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