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AQuintus


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 25, 2013 11:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

VikeADunn wrote:
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Spielman: Patterson can do "just as much and more than Percy can as a returner." Hoo boy.


Ugh. Confused

If I'm drafting a guy in the 1st to be an important part of my receiving corps, I don't want him taking hits in the return game. You can get dynamic return guys with late picks.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 25, 2013 11:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I will admit that, even though I don't like him, he is an instant impact player on special teams.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 25, 2013 11:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

At least it's not one of the worse character concerns. I view him as a bigger and more complete Percy Harvin. Dangerous and raw, I'll give him a chance to prove me wrong.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 25, 2013 11:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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vikingsrule wrote:
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What's not to like is the fact that he's a certifiable moron.

All the physical tools in the world, but a .02 head.


Based on a wonderlic and going to a JUCO?

He is a football player, as long as he is smart enough to stay out of trouble, who cares. WR isnt a terribly complex position to pick up either, from a mental standpoint.

That's where you are absolutely wrong. Wide receiver is an incredibly complex position. Why do you think it takes so long for most receivers to transition to the NFL?


Its becoming more and more of a myth that the WR position takes a long time to transition to. Thanks to the new rules. Look at all the immediate impact rookie receviers over the year. If you have a great physical skill set, you can get by without being a top notch student of the game like a Greg Jennings. Granted, that you dont have hands like Williamson.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 25, 2013 11:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Uncle Buck wrote:
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This draft could be the best one the Vikings have had in decades.


It could be a very good draft sure but it will take a hall of famer to pass Peterson alone in 2007. Smile
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 25, 2013 11:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dumbing down the playbook for receivers is allowing them to make a greater impact early.

Still doesn't take away from the fact that it's a very complex position.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 25, 2013 11:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

AQuintus wrote:
VikeADunn wrote:
@TomPelissero

Spielman: Patterson can do "just as much and more than Percy can as a returner." Hoo boy.


Ugh. Confused

If I'm drafting a guy in the 1st to be an important part of my receiving corps, I don't want him taking hits in the return game. You can get dynamic return guys with late picks.


But, receivers don't typically make an immediate impact. The reality is that the best way for him to make an immediate impact is on ST. The receiving will come...and no one can argue that the upside with Patterson is huge. We'll just have to see how long it takes to reach it.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 25, 2013 11:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

AQuintus wrote:
VikeADunn wrote:
@TomPelissero

Spielman: Patterson can do "just as much and more than Percy can as a returner." Hoo boy.


Ugh. Confused

If I'm drafting a guy in the 1st to be an important part of my receiving corps, I don't want him taking hits in the return game. You can get dynamic return guys with late picks.


We watched Harvin do it for 3 years. Did you have a problem with that?
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 25, 2013 11:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

rpmwr19 wrote:
I will admit that, even though I don't like him, he is an instant impact player on special teams.


Do you feel that he cant catch a bubble screen like Percy Harvin did so often last year?

His best skill set is YAC ability right now, he will surely be put in similar situations as Harvin last year to ease him into the game.
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Probably could have got similar player at 52.


There is no similar player. Incredible talent: size, speed, elusiveness. Would've been no surprise if he went top 10 even with those concerns. With Hopkins gone he's the only likely potential Pro Bowl receiver left on the board.

You can add a quality WR at #52 but Woods will be long gone and you've got to wonder if Keenan Allen is really good value. Quinton Patton and Terrance Williams aren't that good. Wheaton and Dobson are projects, and Rogers is at least as risky as Patterson.

If you want to win, you have to take risks and aim high. Spielman is clearly a poker player of the highest order. Patterson will take all the manufactured touches that Harvin had plus threaten deep along the sideline. Plus he might be the best kick returner in the league. We already have a steady reliable guy in Jennings, have to add someone with upside.

They can always take Bostic or Klein in the 4th, sign a vet to tutor for a year, just like all the anti-Teo crowd wanted.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 25, 2013 11:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

vikingsrule wrote:
rpmwr19 wrote:
I will admit that, even though I don't like him, he is an instant impact player on special teams.


Do you feel that he cant catch a bubble screen like Percy Harvin did so often last year?

His best skill set is YAC ability right now, he will surely be put in similar situations as Harvin last year to ease him into the game.

I'm a purist, I like my receivers to be able to run routes and find zones.

He likely will make an impact on the offense though.
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rpmwr19 wrote:
Dumbing down the playbook for receivers is allowing them to make a greater impact early.

Still doesn't take away from the fact that it's a very complex position.


It is already dumbed down. We do not exactly ask Simpson to run anything remotely complicated. You have seen the size of Musgrave's playbook.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 25, 2013 11:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Vikefan79 wrote:


We watched Harvin do it for 3 years. Did you have a problem with that?


Yes.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 26, 2013 12:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

We'll use him like we used Harvin, just find ways to get him the ball in space.
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I like the pick & the trade. Curious what we're going to do for another LB though.
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