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PostPosted: Fri Apr 26, 2013 2:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hornbybrown wrote:
CanaDawg wrote:
I think we're going to see a run on people naming their dogs "Mingo".


Yep. I just named my three dogs Mingo. Could be confusing but I'm sure they will work it out eventually.

Have not told the Wife yet. She likes the current names.
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Hate to say it but I think you guys got a potential stud. Many Steelers fans didn't like Mingo but he just seems to be oozing potential.

The main reason I wandered over here though is Jabaal. I am a Pitt graduate and got to watch Jabaal play and I just love the kid. Romeus got all the hype until his injury their last year but Jabaal was as steady of a playmaker as they come. I was already worried about him with your switch to the 34 but what is your honest opinion about what he will be for you in the next couple years.

Stop gap for Mingo?
Traded because he doesn't fit the new defense?
Will find a way to contribute even though Kruger and Mingo are the main contributors?
Run some hyrbid 4 front defenses with Kruger, Sheard, and Mingo (in a Von role)?

I just want him to succeed and wouldn't mind if it wasn't on the Browns Wink .

How do you guys see his career playing out over the next couple of years?


i think the plan is to simply have as many pass rushers as possible.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 26, 2013 6:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bulldog wrote:
grubs10 wrote:
Hate to say it but I think you guys got a potential stud. Many Steelers fans didn't like Mingo but he just seems to be oozing potential.

The main reason I wandered over here though is Jabaal. I am a Pitt graduate and got to watch Jabaal play and I just love the kid. Romeus got all the hype until his injury their last year but Jabaal was as steady of a playmaker as they come. I was already worried about him with your switch to the 34 but what is your honest opinion about what he will be for you in the next couple years.

Stop gap for Mingo?
Traded because he doesn't fit the new defense?
Will find a way to contribute even though Kruger and Mingo are the main contributors?
Run some hyrbid 4 front defenses with Kruger, Sheard, and Mingo (in a Von role)?

I just want him to succeed and wouldn't mind if it wasn't on the Browns Wink .

How do you guys see his career playing out over the next couple of years?


i think the plan is to simply have as many pass rushers as possible.


Absolutely, but we must keep things in perspective.

Kruger is a guy who CAN be effective and SHOULD look decent in our system. I highly doubt many DC's are lying awake at night thinking of the terror that is Paul Kruger though.

Sheard has shown to be a nice piece as a LDE in a 4 man front. What his contributions will be in a 3-4 remain to be seen.

Groves is a rotational guy who is nearing 30. He'll more than likely play out his contract and we'll move on. Certainly nothing to write home about.

Mingo is a freaky athlete who reminds me a lot of Jevon Kearse. I'm excited to see him at OLB.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 26, 2013 6:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

LETSGOBROWNIES wrote:
bulldog wrote:
grubs10 wrote:
Hate to say it but I think you guys got a potential stud. Many Steelers fans didn't like Mingo but he just seems to be oozing potential.

The main reason I wandered over here though is Jabaal. I am a Pitt graduate and got to watch Jabaal play and I just love the kid. Romeus got all the hype until his injury their last year but Jabaal was as steady of a playmaker as they come. I was already worried about him with your switch to the 34 but what is your honest opinion about what he will be for you in the next couple years.

Stop gap for Mingo?
Traded because he doesn't fit the new defense?
Will find a way to contribute even though Kruger and Mingo are the main contributors?
Run some hyrbid 4 front defenses with Kruger, Sheard, and Mingo (in a Von role)?

I just want him to succeed and wouldn't mind if it wasn't on the Browns Wink .

How do you guys see his career playing out over the next couple of years?


i think the plan is to simply have as many pass rushers as possible.


Absolutely, but we must keep things in perspective.

Kruger is a guy who CAN be effective and SHOULD look decent in our system. I highly doubt many DC's are lying awake at night thinking of the terror that is Paul Kruger though.

Sheard has shown to be a nice piece as a LDE in a 4 man front. What his contributions will be in a 3-4 remain to be seen.

Groves is a rotational guy who is nearing 30. He'll more than likely play out his contract and we'll move on. Certainly nothing to write home about.

Mingo is a freaky athlete who reminds me a lot of Jevon Kearse. I'm excited to see him at OLB.


I was trying to work out who Mingo compares to and couldn't think of a good fit. I think you nailed it there.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 26, 2013 6:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Found this somewhere else and thought it was funny and fits.

There was a Tiger and a Dog and Mingo was his name O. M I NGO, M I NGO...

Every pick has a few ? about them however I feel better with Mingo in a Defense with Horton than as a rusher with Jaroun.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 26, 2013 6:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hornbybrown wrote:
LETSGOBROWNIES wrote:
bulldog wrote:
grubs10 wrote:
Hate to say it but I think you guys got a potential stud. Many Steelers fans didn't like Mingo but he just seems to be oozing potential.

The main reason I wandered over here though is Jabaal. I am a Pitt graduate and got to watch Jabaal play and I just love the kid. Romeus got all the hype until his injury their last year but Jabaal was as steady of a playmaker as they come. I was already worried about him with your switch to the 34 but what is your honest opinion about what he will be for you in the next couple years.

Stop gap for Mingo?
Traded because he doesn't fit the new defense?
Will find a way to contribute even though Kruger and Mingo are the main contributors?
Run some hyrbid 4 front defenses with Kruger, Sheard, and Mingo (in a Von role)?

I just want him to succeed and wouldn't mind if it wasn't on the Browns Wink .

How do you guys see his career playing out over the next couple of years?


i think the plan is to simply have as many pass rushers as possible.


Absolutely, but we must keep things in perspective.

Kruger is a guy who CAN be effective and SHOULD look decent in our system. I highly doubt many DC's are lying awake at night thinking of the terror that is Paul Kruger though.

Sheard has shown to be a nice piece as a LDE in a 4 man front. What his contributions will be in a 3-4 remain to be seen.

Groves is a rotational guy who is nearing 30. He'll more than likely play out his contract and we'll move on. Certainly nothing to write home about.

Mingo is a freaky athlete who reminds me a lot of Jevon Kearse. I'm excited to see him at OLB.


I was trying to work out who Mingo compares to and couldn't think of a good fit. I think you nailed it there.


They are eerily similar.

Both 6'4

Both ran a 4.58

Both have a 37 in vert

Mingo 128 in broad to 122 for Kearse

Kearse 4.24 20 yard shuttle vs 4.39 for Mingo

It should be noted Kearse was 20lbs heavier than Mingo. Either way, both guys are freaks of effin nature.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 26, 2013 6:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hornbybrown wrote:


I was trying to work out who Mingo compares to and couldn't think of a good fit. I think you nailed it there.


Kearse is a good comparison. I also see Bruce Irvin but a much higher ceiling. Freaky athletic rusher but weak against the run.

If he adds 15-20 like he says he can and will do and becomes more of a force against the run as well as refining his technique and use of hands, I could even see a DeMarcus Ware comparison as becoming apt. Different body shape at the moment but they have really similar violent explosion off the snap.

Now to get a beast of a safety! I'd actually trade up from the 3rd into the back end of the 2nd for Cyprien if he doesn't get picked up early.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 26, 2013 6:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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hornbybrown wrote:


I was trying to work out who Mingo compares to and couldn't think of a good fit. I think you nailed it there.


Kearse is a good comparison. I also see Bruce Irvin but a much higher ceiling. Freaky athletic rusher but weak against the run.

If he adds 15-20 like he says he can and will do and becomes more of a force against the run as well as refining his technique and use of hands, I could even see a DeMarcus Ware comparison as becoming apt.

Now to get a beast of a safety! I'd actually trade up from the 3rd into the back end of the 2nd for Cyprien if he doesn't get picked up early.


I didn't see him as weak against the run.

I thought he set the edge pretty well, especially considering his size as a 4-3 DE.

Bruce Irvin is a pretty solid comparison, especially athletically.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 26, 2013 6:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I feel like Mingo is a huge boom or bust player.

I also thing he's at least a year away from being an everydown player.

The fact that he refused to do the bench press isn't encouraging me about his strength.

Hopefully this year and can learn from Horton and figure out the small things about leverage (which he does do fairly well already) and hand use when rushing. then hit the weight room and focus on bulking up next offseason.

I think its mostly upper body mass he needs to add, so I think he could stand to add 15 lbs and not suffer a loss is speed or flexibility.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 26, 2013 6:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

LETSGOBROWNIES wrote:
poorbytehshore wrote:
hornbybrown wrote:


I was trying to work out who Mingo compares to and couldn't think of a good fit. I think you nailed it there.


Kearse is a good comparison. I also see Bruce Irvin but a much higher ceiling. Freaky athletic rusher but weak against the run.

If he adds 15-20 like he says he can and will do and becomes more of a force against the run as well as refining his technique and use of hands, I could even see a DeMarcus Ware comparison as becoming apt.

Now to get a beast of a safety! I'd actually trade up from the 3rd into the back end of the 2nd for Cyprien if he doesn't get picked up early.


I didn't see him as weak against the run.

I thought he set the edge pretty well, especially considering his size as a 4-3 DE.

Bruce Irvin is a pretty solid comparison, especially athletically.


I agree with this. He held the edge and played contain well. Its his pass rushing skills that need improved and ability to straight up anchor and man handle a guy.
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Our pass rush should be fun to watch this year...lord knows it better be effective, because our secondary is going to get shredded otherwise. Good pick, but I would have preferred Milliner.


I have to agree with this. It's not that Mingo is a bad pick, it's just that I feel Milliner was just as highly rated at a position of greater need.

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cortes02 wrote:
dawgdish wrote:
Our pass rush should be fun to watch this year...lord knows it better be effective, because our secondary is going to get shredded otherwise. Good pick, but I would have preferred Milliner.


I have to agree with this. It's not that Mingo is a bad pick, it's just that I feel Milliner was just as highly rated at a position of greater need.

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I agree but if Milliner can't stay in the lineup what good is he?
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 26, 2013 7:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mingo is not a better prospect then Milliner or Jones.
No production last year against top teams. Frankly not impressed. One trick pony in my opinion. Very disappointed in Banner and Lombardi.
Jarvis Jones to Pittsburgh... kill me. Now I gotta watch this guy kill whoever we start at QB for the next 8 years.
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dairyu wrote:
Mingo is not a better prospect then Milliner or Jones.
No production last year against top teams. Frankly not impressed. One trick pony in my opinion. Very disappointed in Banner and Lombardi.
Jarvis Jones to Pittsburgh... kill me. Now I gotta watch this guy kill whoever we start at QB for the next 8 years.


You must be of the type that looks that the stat sheet to determine if a player is good or not.

Here's some food for thought.

Jason Peire-Paul- 6.5 sacks in his one year at South Florida
Clay Mathews- 5.5 sacks in 4 years at USC
JJ Watt- 11.5 sacks in 2 years at Wisconsin
Micheal Johnson- 19 sacks in 4 years at Georgia tech


And to me, Jarvis Jones = Chris Gocong.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 26, 2013 7:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bulldog wrote:
dairyu wrote:
Mingo is not a better prospect then Milliner or Jones.
No production last year against top teams. Frankly not impressed. One trick pony in my opinion. Very disappointed in Banner and Lombardi.
Jarvis Jones to Pittsburgh... kill me. Now I gotta watch this guy kill whoever we start at QB for the next 8 years.


You must be of the type that looks that the stat sheet to determine if a player is good or not.

Here's some food for thought.

Jason Peire-Paul- 6.5 sacks in his one year at South Florida
Clay Mathews- 5.5 sacks in 4 years at USC
JJ Watt- 11.5 sacks in 2 years at Wisconsin
Micheal Johnson- 19 sacks in 4 years at Georgia tech


And to me, Jarvis Jones = Chris Gocong.


So much yes to every aspect of this post.

Especially the last part
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